Having not seen him play much.... makes sense
Also I have not said what you claimed.
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Having not seen him play much.... makes sense
Also I have not said what you claimed.
How can you say that, they have all watched a 5 minute you tube video.
You're forgetting attacking midfield. Assuming Lukaku leaves and Sanchez gets phased out:So we'll have Martial, Rashford, Sanchez, Greenwood, James, Lukaku, Gomes, Mata, Jesse, Chong and Pepe for 3 attacking spots. Yeah rightthat''s almost half a first team squad.
We buy any attacking players and it'll be as someone has left...
ST: Rashford/Martial/Greenwood
LW: Martial/James/Sanchez
RW: Pepe/James/Chong
AM: Mata/Lingard/Gomes
Then behind this front 4 is Pogba plus whatever defensive midfielder we use. Or Pogba as attacking mid with the others as backup.
It will not be Mata, or at least I hope not
I can't see this being true, they've been trying to drum up interest in him all summer and seemingly got nowhere. Now we're ready to throw £70m at them after not being linked with any right wingers and still in for Maguire, Fernandes and Longstaff? Smells fishier than a mermaids hoo-ha to me.
Pep isn't interested in him so that's why Cafe doesn't like him. Although Klopp was supposedly interested? That should be good enough.
Anyone mentioned he's not United quality?
Anyone mentioned he's not United quality?
Good finisher who creates chances for the main striker with through balls rather than traditional wing play and crossing. Not sure he's right for us though and certainly not worth more than 50m.
His penalties are good, lots of variation and the keepers in the video don't get near any of them.
His penalties are good, lots of variation and the keepers in the video don't get near any of them.
Perhaps if we do get Bruno Fernandes he can play there. But yeah in all likelihood Mata will just be backup for AM and RW.
Looks good on YouTube but then again, most people do... he’s no hazard anyway, that much I can conclude
I doubt anything short of signing Neymar would hold us up from going in hard for Sancho next year. Well, that and missing out on the CL places.
We drag the Maguire transfer for so long for a few more millions but we manage to find fund for this? 
I'm just hoping that it doesn't mean that we won't going to pursue Sancho next summer. On paper he sounds like a nice fit for us, we desperately need the numbers in both goals and assists.
Surely for next year Sanchez will be gone and Sancho will take the No. 7.
If we are playing with a number 10 then it will be 4 spots, even if it is, it's still alot of player's. We would have to offload at least one or two. If lukaku goes then it wouldn't be such a stretch.So we'll have Martial, Rashford, Sanchez, Greenwood, James, Lukaku, Gomes, Mata, Jesse, Chong and Pepe for 3 attacking spots. Yeah right
We buy any attacking players and it'll be as someone has left...
In a romantic way I would prefer Greenwood to be given the spot with James/Chong/Gomes filling in, but he is young and it is a gamble.
Not worried about the skills, I want end product, goals, assists, creating chances. And 9 goals from penalties and you still have to convert.
Regarding Pepe, I have an opinion on it because the club I support are talking about spending 70M quid on him, so you look at his stats and what people who watch him say about him. If United had gone for him last summer, would he have cost anywhere near 70M? No
Looks like he had a pretty average season before he moved to Lille, a decent season when he scored 13 goals (lets not get to excited, he is playing in France), so if we went for him last summer you are looking at 30M ish?
Due to him having his recent stellar season last year, it is now 70M, hence me saying his one good year in France.
If you disagree, I am honestly past the point of giving a shit, you are making a pointless argument out of nothing.
You think it makes no sense, mate I seriously couldn't care, have a top day
Fair enough, he could end up being our Salah for all we know, scoring loads after cutting inside from the right wing. All I wanted to say is that any player can look world class in Youtube compilation so I expected a little more considering the price.
Based on what? One person who said he hadn't watched him extensively? So to you that means everybody that isn't aboard the Pepe train hasn't watched him? Makes sense.
You didn't say it word for word, you strongly implied it by ridiculing people who aren't happy with us being linked to Pepe.
Is it possible to have an opinion on here without 10 people kicking off because you don't sit and study every player in every league haha christ!
Is there any industry in the world that gets away with such bullshite as football journalism. 98% of anything they say or write this summer is fiction. They are like a pack of schoolboys behind the bike shed swapping panini cards.
So you agree that it is a risk to pay 70M for him then? Holy shit with all my lack of knowledge of him, I seem to be correct in thinking its a bit of a risk.
Based on reading the thread, and where did I say everybody? You should stop putting words in peoples mouths seriously
Your interpretation, if I didn't say it I didn't say it whether you think I implied it or not
when have we ever operated like that? if we spend £80m on a right wing this summer that is it for sure
That's not what I told you, you said that he only had one good season and I told you that he had more than one to which you answered that you didn't follow Ligue 1. As for talking about risk, every transfer is a risk.
I think what you said was he has had 3 good seasons, which for someone who watches Ligue 1 as extensively as you seems to a bit from the truth, 1 very good season and a decent season seems about right.
I was gonna say I look forward to Bruno Fernandes arriving but, but, I don't follow the Portuguese league week in week out, I would ask your opinion, but I don't think you're allowed to tell me are you, unless you watch Sporting 30+ times a season?
You can have an opinion, but if a person deems himself more qualified talk it down, don't get offended.
You can look forward for whoever you want but if you say something and then answer that you don't follow the league, then I will ask myself why you made a claim in the first place. It shouldn't be that difficult to understand but apparently it is. As for Fernandes I have seen him with Udinese/Sampdoria but I don't know him today, so I have nothing interesting to share about him, I know, that's a boring take.
Makes me laugh mate not offended don't worry, those extra five minutes on you tube do make some difference!
Shed load of people more qualified than me, its when your not allowed to have an opinion that is where they get told haha difference of opinion fair enough.
He is the one who deemed himself not qualified, having a different opinion isn't an issue but when someone says that he didn't follow the player, it's just perplexing.
From the youtube vids he seems an intelligent player in the final 3rd, which is where his end product comes from. I prefer intelligent players with less skill than flashy brainless players (even though his dribbling is quite good anyway).
If that is indeed the case, wouldn't mind the signing at all, especially given the current (lack of) quality of our right-hand side.
If that is indeed the case, wouldn't mind the signing at all, especially given the current (lack of) quality of our right-hand side.
I don’t reckon we have, which is why I used the absurd example of Neymar. Though I’d contend we shouldn’t pigeon-hole these guys into LW/RW/etc. You could fit Pepe and Sancho into an interchangeable front 3.
Not hard to understand in the slightest, I'm not a scout, I don't watch every game in every league, I don't sit on you tube and then pretend to know everything about every single player.
But when I'm in the pub and people are discussion potential players, or incomings or players linked with, I love a discussion, chatting about it, half our opinions will be wrong, its football not politics, who cares.
If that is your attitude on a forum or in the pub, fair enough, its not politics we all got into for the banter, love of the game, slowly and surely modern football and stats facts social media etc. is draining that away.
Not everything in football has to be so black and white like your sat in a classroom mate, enjoy it
Lets stick with facts like United own Sanchez and Lukaku and they both have long term contracts, plus it's a 25 man squad. So 3 keepers and 11 attackers over half the squad leaving us 11 players to cover 7 positions as in 2 full back, 2 central defenders and 3 midfielders. Try sticking to reality, we won't be adding anyone unless there's a vacant slot, we've so far lost Herrera, Fellaini and Valencia. Buying another attacker at this moment in time looks completely not viable.
Because I have not watched Nicolas Pepe for the last 3 years extensively, love to see how many on here have?
It's getting tedious, you specifically judged those 3 years and then said that you didn't follow them. Just forget it, I didn't say anything.
You replied to a post where I was speaking about everybody that was against signing him so that's where that came from.
Are you saying my interpretation of your post was wrong? If so, what exactly did you mean?
Well you had a pop saying I am basing it on one year (which I was), so I looked up it following your expert analysis of him being very good for 3 years, which turned out to be false by the looks of what I read.
Basing it on 3 years or 1 year the verdict is the same, massive risk for that amount of money for a guy who has only played in France.
3 hour argument over you trying to look like the big man, well done, worked out well.
I didn't reply to your post, you replied to mine.....
Here is the post you replied to which didn't quote you
You're not looking back far enough. Anyway I'm getting bored with this and it's getting us nowhere so let's just leave it yeah?
Seriously show me where I quoted you first during this exchange
Already talked about him but I'm with @JPRouve on this one. I'm a big fan of Pépé.
He basically passed all the tests in Ligue 1 (save them when they were relegation fodder, then a great season with some markee performance against best teams in France).
His season was exceptional, as 22 goals and 11 assists are numbers only accomplished by PSG stars (Zlatan, Mbappé, Neymar) or Eden Hazard for the past 20 years (and more). He scored a lot of penalty but I think like 6 or 7 of them were provoked by him.
No idea what is his ceiling or floor level. All I can say is that he was the best offensive player this past Ligue 1 season after Mbappé, and he has a top mentality, a very brave player.
So yes it's one of those typical signing involving a risk, and like everytime in those case :
- It was his ceiling and will be flop
- Everybody will say how it was a genius move and how it was obvious if he's great...
He basically passed all the tests in Ligue 1 (save them when they were relegation fodder, then a great season with some markee performance against best teams in France).
His season was exceptional, as 22 goals and 11 assists are numbers only accomplished by PSG stars (Zlatan, Mbappé, Neymar) or Eden Hazard for the past 20 years (and more). He scored a lot of penalty but I think like 6 or 7 of them were provoked by him.
No idea what is his ceiling or floor level. All I can say is that he was the best offensive player this past Ligue 1 season after Mbappé, and he has a top mentality, a very brave player.
So yes it's one of those typical signing involving a risk, and like everytime in those case :
- It was his ceiling and will be flop
- Everybody will say how it was a genius move and how it was obvious if he's great...
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