Nick Powell

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Be good to see him get some minutes in upcoming games if we have them under control.

The same for a few more of the lads he took to Gala but never got on the pitch. Be interesting.
 
Looking at that, I'm sure you guys claiming he had a very good game have to think twice.

It's basically some clips of him misplacing passes and wasting possession, with one or two good moments and some good tackling.
 
It's not best performance you could see, but it's not bad at all.

Even from that single video you can see his talent and why we bought him, his shooting technique is excellent, and looks like his vision and one touch passing(he looks similar to cleverley in that aspect) are very good too.
 
Looking at that, I'm sure you guys claiming he had a very good game have to think twice.

It's basically some clips of him misplacing passes and wasting possession, with one or two good moments and some good tackling.

Yeah well YouTube videos made Bebe look good.
 
Looking at that, I'm sure you guys claiming he had a very good game have to think twice.

It's basically some clips of him misplacing passes and wasting possession, with one or two good moments and some good tackling.

Thats not how football works....his display hinted at whats to come given the usual development you'd expect from an 18 year old. Given where the display happened it says lots for his own confidence and character. Two very important factors if he is to make it here in the long term.

It aint all about ability...
 
Well this is a video that shows a true reflection of all his involvements. I'm sure if you made one with Anderson or Cleverley it wouldnt be amazing either
 
I don't need a youtube video to know that Powell is a very talented lad, I've seen enough of him to know that. I just thought it was bizarre the way people talked about his match vs Galatasaray as if it were in any way good or out of the ordinary. It was in fact quite a poor showing looking at his involvements again, just as I thought while watching it.
 
Well this is a video that shows a true reflection of all his involvements. I'm sure if you made one with Anderson or Cleverley it wouldnt be amazing either

Looking at the pass completion stats, at least a Cleverley-one would consist of him actually hitting a United-player with his passes.

I didn't think Anderson was very good, Cleverley was decent/good while Powell just looked what he is - an unexperienced 18-year old, promising player who isn't ready to go and perform in these kind of matches yet.
 
I don't need a youtube video to know that Powell is a very talented lad, I've seen enough of him to know that. I just thought it was bizarre the way people talked about his match vs Galatasaray as if it were in any way good or out of the ordinary. It was in fact quite a poor showing looking at his involvements again, just as I thought while watching it.

With it being his first start coupled with the game being totally meaningless for us it's only natural folk are looking at the positives in his performance.

Yes he lost the ball and made the wrong decisions but he did seem to cause problems in the attacking third and wanted the ball. Thought his positioning was clever at times and he certainly had a great awareness of what was going on around him.

He'll improve the more first team time he gets. I don't see any reason why he can't get the last 20 minutes of games we have a comfortable lead in. It wasn't a poor showing at all.
 
Looking at the pass completion stats, at least a Cleverley-one would consist of him actually hitting a United-player with his passes.

I didn't think Anderson was very good, Cleverley was decent/good while Powell just looked what he is - an unexperienced 18-year old, promising player who isn't ready to go and perform in these kind of matches yet.

I thought Cleverley was rather decent as well yeah.

Anderson looked alright but still looks shagged after an hour.
 
With it being his first start coupled with the game being totally meaningless for us it's only natural folk are looking at the positives in his performance.

Yes he lost the ball and made the wrong decisions but he did seem to cause problems in the attacking third and wanted the ball. Thought his positioning was clever at times and he certainly had a great awareness of what was going on around him.

He'll improve the more first team time he gets. I don't see any reason why he can't get the last 20 minutes of games we have a comfortable lead in. It wasn't a poor showing at all.

It was a poor showing, although not nearly a shockingly poor one, just a young man who's still got a lot to learn and as such expected. He did show confidence, and as I've said before he's got that aura of class around him. It's difficult to explain, he just looks and feels like a proper player.

I agree that he should get chances when the heat is slightly off, and that's why Fergie started him vs Gala. The experience will do him good.
 
Well this is a video that shows a true reflection of all his involvements. I'm sure if you made one with Anderson or Cleverley it wouldnt be amazing either

Indeed

Anderson finished with a lower pass completion rate than Powell. At one point he failed to beat the first man on three successive corners. If Powell's video featured anything of that level of gash, then there would be many on here writing him off for all time.

Fletcher recently gave an interview to the MEN. He said that the Gala game was a necessary experience for Powell: now he knows how fast the game at the top level is, what a truly intimidating atmosphere is like and how assured his touch needs to be at the top level.

Powell showed enough in that game to suggest that he has a real shot at being a Utd player and know he knows what it is going to take to get there.
 
Looking at the pass completion stats, at least a Cleverley-one would consist of him actually hitting a United-player with his passes.

I didn't think Anderson was very good, Cleverley was decent/good while Powell just looked what he is - an unexperienced 18-year old, promising player who isn't ready to go and perform in these kind of matches yet.

I mean in a video of a general performance from Cleverley not just in a one off performance. While yes most of Cleverley's would be accurate passes few of them would actually look that impressive. It would just be a video of him playing a fairly simple pass and then running into space in case the ball is played into him again. I'm not sure why Powell's video needs to be more impressive
 
I mean in a video of a general performance from Cleverley not just in a one off performance. While yes most of Cleverley's would be accurate passes few of them would actually look that impressive. It would just be a video of him playing a fairly simple pass and then running into space in case the ball is played into him again. I'm not sure why Powell's video needs to be more impressive

This is a very strange argument you 2 are having about hypothetical YouTube videos.

I thought after the game people went a little overboard with Powell's conntribution. It's to be expected I guess because he's the shiny new exciting signing.

He was just decent. Some very nice touches. Still a long way to go.
 
This is a very strange argument you 2 are having about hypothetical YouTube videos.

I thought after the game people went a little overboard with Powell's conntribution. It's to be expected I guess because he's the shiny new exciting signing.

He was just decent. Some very nice touches. Still a long way to go.

Its not because he's new, its because he's young and managed to put in a decent performance in a difficult atmosphere. When many around him werent able to do the same.
 
He's certainly got something about him even when he's doing the simple stuff. It's difficult to judge him having seen next to nothing of him but I'm happy to just watch him collecting the ball, moving with it and showing that he has good awareness of the game. Can't wait to see more of him.
 
Anyone denying this lad has potential or the ability to be a top class player aren't very good at spotting talent.

Don't think anyone has suggested anything remotely close to that.
 
My only doubt about him is his position. Everyone (that matters) says he'll be a central midfielder. Not saying that won't happen but I don't think he's a natural in that position. Certainly not in a 2 man midfield.
 
It's hard to know with an 18 year old whether he is naturally suited to being a midfielder or not yet though. Let's not forget Scholes started as a striker! I hope we don't do what we did with Anderson though...
 
Looks 100% a midfielder to me. Does his bit defensively, can pass the ball well at short distances and can carry the ball forward. Just because he has a great shot doesn't mean he cant be a natural in central midfield.
 
Only needs to learn when to hold midfield shape or when to close down and press.

The thing phil jones is always caught out is his over eagerness and determination to help, sometimes he rushes into trying to close an opponent down, but by doing that leaves a hole for the striker to capitalise on. It's all about timing and learning when to hold off or make the tackle.

Powell will learn that with Time and experience, something pogba is doing at juventus now.
 
Looks 100% a midfielder to me. Does his bit defensively, can pass the ball well at short distances and can carry the ball forward. Just because he has a great shot doesn't mean he cant be a natural in central midfield.

I know you're not serious but I obviously wasn't referring to his shooting. It's his positioning that needs lots of work.
 
Folk need to bare in mind that midfield has not been the position he has been playing up until rather recently.

Gradi and Ferguson both said it would be his best position but it isn't one he has alot of experience in at any level yet. He is, however, steadily improving throughout is appearances at reserve level and will continue to do well in cameo appearances for the first team hopefully.
 
Folk need to bare in mind that midfield has not been the position he has been playing up until rather recently.

Gradi and Ferguson both said it would be his best position but it isn't one he has alot of experience in at any level yet. He is, however, steadily improving throughout is appearances at reserve level and will continue to do well in cameo appearances for the first team hopefully.

He played for Crewe the season before last as a central midfielder. It was only last season they moved him up front to score them goals
 
I dont know any 18 year old midfielder where thats not the case

I've seen plenty midfielders over the years with half the talent of Powell but looking comfortable in central midfield. Central midfield certainly doesn't come naturally to him. No big deal though. He'll learn.
 
He played for Crewe the season before last as a central midfielder. It was only last season they moved him up front to score them goals

It was only last season he really played at all. The season before that he was only 16 was used pretty much entirely as a sub.
 
It's hard to know with an 18 year old whether he is naturally suited to being a midfielder or not yet though. Let's not forget Scholes started as a striker! I hope we don't do what we did with Anderson though...

I hear that. Every time anyone on this forum uses the words 'bulk up' and 'two-man midfield' in conjunction (and it still happens much, much too often), I just want to scream ANDERSON at them until they stop.
 
Missed second half, but I noticed that Powell had a brief cameo. How did he do? Or did he not have enough time to have much impact.
 
Missed second half, but I noticed that Powell had a brief cameo. How did he do? Or did he not have enough time to have much impact.

Not enough time to make an impact. But his few touches were confident. He even got in a good snarl at a QPR player who took a nibble at him.
 
It was only last season he really played at all. The season before that he was only 16 was used pretty much entirely as a sub.

He was playing centre mid for Crewe until their strikers stopped scoring goals and he was the only one doing so. They then played him up front more.

Missed second half, but I noticed that Powell had a brief cameo. How did he do? Or did he not have enough time to have much impact.

Only had about five touches, but some good moments. His first touch was a back heel type pass. His best moment was being chased down the wing by two players and he nutmegged one and skipped between them leaving them for dead.
 
I posted earlier in this thread that he needs to show more, but I'm slowly coming round to this lad. He's got the kind of touch and close control that I haven't seen from any other English player bar Scholes. I like his style, but he still needs to show more before I start believing he's going to be the next Scholes or anything.

But right now, definitely so far so good.
 
I posted earlier in this thread that he needs to show more, but I'm slowly coming round to this lad. He's got the kind of touch and close control that I haven't seen from any other English player bar Scholes. I like his style, but he still needs to show more before I start believing he's going to be the next Scholes or anything.

But right now, definitely so far so good.

I'm on record saying the boy has the goods. It won't be long before he's a regular starter for us.
 
The only negative thing I would really say about him atm is I'd like to see more urgency from him, sometimes when we don't have the ball he can be quite casual about chasing after the ball imo.
 
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