I've certainly seen Ravel go on many a dribbling raid more impressive than Powell's last night. Not sure he could have finished it off like that though.
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I've certainly seen Ravel go on many a dribbling raid more impressive than Powell's last night. Not sure he could have finished it off like that though.
no video of this goal then? will have to look for it on mutv
There's a poor quality one in the match thread.
Agreed.
From what Ive seen he is progressing quite rapidly by training with quality players and is showing more with every game he plays so its not as if hes stagnating by playing mainly reserve football. I think some people forget just how young he is hes not 19 until March and has already played 67 games in professional football which is probably more than 95% of players his age and if he had come through our youth system we would probably only be thinking about loaning him out now so I dont think theres any real rush to loan him out as long as hes progressing here.
Stoke last night were horrible to play against. They were a big strong team and they got defensively set brilliantly for the whole 90mins. For Powell go through them like that took a rare bit of brilliance. I just think that he is as good a talent as Pogba or Morrison. I also think that like Pogba he needs a bigger stage to play on, right now.
For once we can agree on something
I dont want to see him going out on loan though.
I think you're slightly forgetting just how good Morrison was. It was a great run by Powell, but Morrison used to do that on something like a regular basis, and his general play over the 90 minutes was slicker and more incisive.
I hate comparisons though, because now it sounds like I don't rate Powell or his performances so far, which I do.
Lots of people go on good runs, considerably less put it in the back of the net at the end. I don't recall Morrison scoring a solo run goal. I agree that his all round play was better, simply because Ravel always wanted the ball and sought it out. I mentioned earlier in the thread that I felt that Powell has a bit of the Berbatov about him, in that, because he has that bit of extra talent, he thinks that the game should come to him.
Yeah, I agree with that. A less negatively-weighted comparison in that sense might be to Lampard, who is comfortable on the ball but knows that his strength is receiving it high up the pitch or in the box and shooting or passing instantly. Essentially, Powell looks to me like an attacking midfielder but not a playmaker, which is surprisingly rare in these days of kids brought up watching Barcelona. It also might be the reason I don't quite rate him as much as Morrison, because the guile and footwork of a playmaker always stands out more amongst midfielders than a more direct type.
Apparently, he's trying to grow a beard to match David's!
On a more serious note, I very much like what we're seeing from this lad and am looking forward to seeing him progress within our ranks. He most probably won't start this evening, but I'd love to see him get a few minutes towards the end of the game.
On a more serious note, I very much like what we're seeing from this lad and am looking forward to seeing him progress within our ranks. He most probably won't start this evening, but I'd love to see him get a few minutes towards the end of the game.
I think the Lampard comparison looks a good one given the goalscoring threat and generally good level of all round technical ability. It's possible his technique may even end up a bit more refined than Lampard's (in terms of his dribbling and touch), although it is obviously unclear whether he'll match his quite ridiculous productivity at this point. Still not going to get my hopes up too much about him yet but there is clear improvement with every game.
Looks every bit as good as expected thus far. Impressed.
The thought of Pogba leaving still stings, but bringing him in certainly helps alot 
Mo-vember?
The best thing I can say about him is that he does't look out of place when he's on the pitch with the first team.
One to watch for the future for sure!
One to watch for the future for sure!
For once we can agree on something
I dont want to see him going out on loan though.
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Comparing to Morrison again. When Ravel made his cameos I saw a little bit of nervousness in him, Powell on the other hand looks like he has no fear at all.
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Comparing to Morrison again. When Ravel made his cameos I saw a little bit of nervousness in him, Powell on the other hand looks like he has no fear at all.
Really? The way I remember it Ravel was one of the most confident players on the pitch when he played against Palace in the Carling cup. Immediately started roaming around the pitch looking to get as many touches of the ball as possible. Pretty sure that was one of the things people were so impressed by when Ravel played for the first team.
I remember seeing nervousness, we all got too giddy about his brief appearances, he played within himself. My City fan friends who saw the Palace game were disappointed by his showing after all the talk.
Well, he must be a really special idiot that even City fans were disappointed with him
Ravel was anything but nervous. Rarely have I seen a kid have as much confidence as he did in that game. He oozed class.
Ravel wasn't nervous at all. Immediately as he came on, he looked a class above from Macheda etc.
I definitely remember thinking he was class in those 2 games. I hadn't seen him at reserve level and so this was the first I'd seen beyond some YouTube clips and I remember thinking on the pitch he showed lots of maturity, work rate, technique and vision. Wasn't afraid of the ball etc. looked like he could be a class act. Shame it didn't work out.
I think in jan it might be good for Powell to get a loan. He's had a taste of what it's like at united now and the gulf in class between the lower leagues and united/pl. he's too good for reserve football imo and we have too many bodies to give him decent time in the league. Give him a loan and if scholes/giggs retire this summer he can get some good game time.
I think in jan it might be good for Powell to get a loan. He's had a taste of what it's like at united now and the gulf in class between the lower leagues and united/pl. he's too good for reserve football imo and we have too many bodies to give him decent time in the league. Give him a loan and if scholes/giggs retire this summer he can get some good game time.
Why is he playing in the Championship then? You would have thought that he were Leo Messi at 18 with that kind of review.
Why? Erm, because he's an idiot who has wasted his talent.
I don't see how that relates to his confidence in said match.
Because he's got a stinking attitude in general and I think most clubs in the league would just get pissed off with em and end up sending him down a league. You want players who are going to do their utmost for the team to survive in this league and sadly I don't think Ravel applies himself in that way very often.
He's a bit of a "me" player. Talented no doubt, but you need more than that in your locker to succeed.
He's a bit of a "me" player. Talented no doubt, but you need more than that in your locker to succeed.
Isn't this the Powell thread?
Did you ever see him in the 18s? I'd put my my house on him being one of the top ten most talented players on the planet for his age. Not sure he is now but from ages 15-18 when I saw him he was unreal.
The reason he isn't playing in our first team currently is nothing to do with ability. Its because of poor professionalism, attitude and all the work you have to put in off the pitch that he couldn't be arsed with.
Did you ever see him in the 18s? I'd put my my house on him being one of the top ten most talented players on the planet for his age. Not sure he is now but from ages 15-18 when I saw him he was unreal.
The reason he isn't playing in our first team currently is nothing to do with ability. Its because of poor professionalism, attitude and all the work you have to put in off the pitch that he couldn't be arsed with.
I saw him many many times for the reserves and he was/is a great talent. He did not put a show stopping performance in against Palace though. He was a 7/10, he did not play to his full capabilities, in my opinion. No doubt I raved about him at the time but I was in giddy fan mode. For me, Powell shows just as much potential.
So you're basically judging him on one match despite watching him play many more? Makes sense.
I thought he was exceptional for the England U-21s last night. Bizarrely, the one bit of his game that let him down was what is usually one of his greatest strengths, shooting. Apart from that, he oozed class. I don't think he misplaced a single pass. Looked like the most experienced player in the English team, so calm and composed. Amazing to think he was actually one of the youngest.
Good to hear! Where did he play?
Hope he gets some game time in the first team. We have two CL dead rubbers coming up, and he could be an option from the bench in the league.
Hope he gets some game time in the first team. We have two CL dead rubbers coming up, and he could be an option from the bench in the league.
That's nice to hear.
However, I must admit that watching U21 international friendlies sounds like an especially cruel version of hell designed for football fans in particular.
However, I must admit that watching U21 international friendlies sounds like an especially cruel version of hell designed for football fans in particular.
That run was class. I've only really seen him briefly but does he often make those kind of runs? What player is he comparable to in style?
The Telegraph barely mentioned him. They did, however, highlight Tom Ince's performance, said that he was an absolute demon on the wing.
Tom Ince had a good game too. First time I've watched him play 90 minutes since he was in Liverpool's academy. He's a real handful.
Powell played in midfield, ahead of McEachran and Henderson. Arguably a second striker but that was mainly because England dominated possession and the game was almost entirely played in Norn Iron's half..
Powell played in midfield, ahead of McEachran and Henderson. Arguably a second striker but that was mainly because England dominated possession and the game was almost entirely played in Norn Iron's half..
I've always got the impression that that's his best position. I hope we don't try to an Anderson and convert him to a deeper midfielder, though I suppose he is only 18 so there's plenty of time.
I think he'll make a great central midfielder. Reminds me of a young Frank Lampard.
Well I meant deeper than Lampard, but that's a good comparison. He can certainly bring the goal threat that we've lacked from midfield in the last while.
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There's something vaguely Berbatov-esque about him when he runs at people. In that he seems to be moving slowly, but clearly he isn't because he beats his man.
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