And while Kaepernick is still out of work, the Raiders habe signed Peterman. They are not even trying to hide it.
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Hide what? That they've given Gruden free reign to tank prior to Vegas or that Kaep is blackballed...?
The blackballing, obviously.
The NFL are cnuts. 7 tests in 11 games... feck off as if that’s ‘random testing’. Eventually they’ll find something else to get Reid with.
It’ll be interesting to compare how many random tests Jules has had this season (not that I want him banned!!)
The thing is, though, this isn’t an NFL only issue. It’s fundamentally a core pervasive issue across the entire country and is mixed between a subconscious and in some cases conscious bias.
Clearly this one is disgusting and premeditated, but it’s the culture, the inherent bias, and the general context which allows this to go from a bad idea to genuinely something the NFL has decided to do.
Having said that, given the demographics of NFL players and just the level of the organisation, it should be the one pushing to correct all these various wrongs. Not engage in them. Awful to say the least, but hey, look at what the did to Kaepernick. And even in other topics, look at how they handled concussions. It’s clear the NFL only thinks about one thing and that’s money for itself and it’s owners.
Clearly this one is disgusting and premeditated, but it’s the culture, the inherent bias, and the general context which allows this to go from a bad idea to genuinely something the NFL has decided to do.
Having said that, given the demographics of NFL players and just the level of the organisation, it should be the one pushing to correct all these various wrongs. Not engage in them. Awful to say the least, but hey, look at what the did to Kaepernick. And even in other topics, look at how they handled concussions. It’s clear the NFL only thinks about one thing and that’s money for itself and it’s owners.
Anyway random change of topic. Did anyone know Cris Collinsworth (NBC broadcaster) owns PFF?
Just watched his football life on gamepass. Interesting.
Just watched his football life on gamepass. Interesting.
Aaaaannnnddd another change.
Seems Gordon is going to get an indefinite suspension and he says he’s stepping away from football for a while.
Another big blow for us.
Seems Gordon is going to get an indefinite suspension and he says he’s stepping away from football for a while.
Another big blow for us.
Ffs Gordon.
Our offense is fecked... Dez to the rescue
Our offense is fecked... Dez to the rescue
Meh, some things more important than NFL. Hope he sorts his life out and lives well. He’s probably not gonna play another down of football
Why is it predominantly talked about as a "mental health issue" rather than a drug addiction issue? Can be both obviously, but now it looks like it's his own choice but he might be doing it because of the imminent suspension. I feel for him, hopefully he gets better quickly but playing football shouldn't be a priority for him anymore.
Re: the Eric Reid thing - I saw an OBJ comment on Instagram saying he got tested more than 10 times in just as many games this season, so I don't think 7 times in 11 games is anything spectacular if it's the same with other players (without a drug history).
Re: the Eric Reid thing - I saw an OBJ comment on Instagram saying he got tested more than 10 times in just as many games this season, so I don't think 7 times in 11 games is anything spectacular if it's the same with other players (without a drug history).
Ffs Gordon.
Our offense is fecked... Dez to the rescue
He's done his achilles, I'd say it's the last we have seen of him unfortunately.
Was that after the OBJ cocaine video came out though?
Possibly, he didn't mention a specific timeline.
Either way, you're a professional athlete, you're gonna get tested. What's the problem if you got nothing to hide?
True. But if the NFL testing regime is anything like our AFL's, then they could be knocking on your door nice and early or right after a game when you want to celebrate with your teammates.
Better in news, tbh. Easier and more vague in context.
Yep, commentators and talking heads will be very reluctant to question it openly.
Rivers is such a funny QB
Love seeing Rivers and his teammates got fecked as a result of their petulance.
Beating Cardiff 5-1, and beating the Chargers on the road. That's my Christmas sorted.
Ravens D has shown this season that it’s going to be a problem for most teams.
If the playoffs started today, the AFC is hard to call. Each team has strengths & weaknesses and could beat the other on their day. Should make for exciting games.
If the playoffs started today, the AFC is hard to call. Each team has strengths & weaknesses and could beat the other on their day. Should make for exciting games.
Man I love this Ravens team so much , need them to win the division
Every NFL player is hiding something regarding drugs.
That's a pretty ridiculous blanket statement.
Why so?
Because you have absolutely no basis to say every single NFL player is doping.
Before you switch to the obvious extreme strawman I'm by no means saying the league is clean, there's almost certainly plenty of players upto some shady stuff, but you can't possibly say it's absolutely all of them across the league.
Why would they take the chance when getting caught would ruin their already short careers ?
I mean... sure. But do you actually believe those players are getting as big as they are naturally? Do you think these players are such genetic outliers that they recover from horrible injuries without a little help from the good old HGH?
I don’t mind though, doping makes the sport better when done safely.
Why would it ruin their careers? Coaches don’t give a toss if players take steroids. They habitually tell players to gain 10-20lbs in an off-season, how else are they supposed to achieve that?
So the only way for players to bulk up is steroids?
Also I don't think injury recovery is particularly fast in the NFL, is it? There's loads of players done for the season with injury every year. It's not like they're all coming back way ahead of expectations like at City.
Well for one they would get suspended, fined, blackballed as cheats etc etc. NFL players already have a very short life (3.3 years to be precise) during which they earn most of their money. So why would anyone jeopardize any of that ?
Not at all, but the timelines for their size gain are too short and the magnitude to high for it to be anything other than steroids.
A lot of them are actually recovering way ahead of schedule, loads of guys are coming back from terrible ACL injuries in a few months and playing at the top level like it was nothing.
I don’t think it’s as much of a risk as you say. For a couple reasons:
1. It’s actually really hard to get caught taking steroids. There are loads of masking agents you can use, compounds are more sophisticated and harder to catch, and it’s a trivial matter for someone dedicated enough to time their cycles appropriately.
2. I don’t think you get blackballed as a cheat at all. I’ve yet to see a coach or organisation come out and rail against a player that’s been suspended for doping - they aren’t that stupid.
Lastly, the fines are negligible relative to the performance gains you get, which means way more earning potential.
The masking agents you describe are well known to the professionals at the labs who do the testing and are not as easy to evade as they were in the past. The fines are also "not negligible" when you consider that testing hot in season results in a 6 game suspension, which is about 40% or so of one's entire annual salary (NFL salaries are notoriously low when compared with MLB and NBA ones), so there's little to no incentive for a player who is already in the league for a limited period of time to squander their very short high earning years to bench a bit more weight or recover half a day faster.
I don’t think they are well known to testers actually. Masking agents proliferate at a faster pace than testers can update their methods. Also, for legal reasons, testers have to inform the entire league the exact substances they are testing for, and there needs to be a consultation period whenever they want to add new substances to the methodology - I’m actually impressed how professional athletes get popped for doping.
Hence why I said it’s not a risk, the penalties are heavy but not really worth thinking about cos you have to do something majorly stupid to get caught.
The incentive is huge - if you’re a lineman and you manage to gain 10-20lbs of good, lean mass that’s going to have a pretty good effect on your on-field performance. If you’re a linebacker it means you can play more downs, add more value to the team and earn more money.
That may have randomly been the case in the past but the penalties and technology in the current system make it much less feasible because the cost / benefit is lopsidedly in favor of the cost. Losing 40-70% of your annual salary makes whatever negligible gain you think you're getting (which itself is questionable since PEDs don't do anything if you have a poor work ethic or football technique) far too perilous. That's not to say various players don't do it, but to generalize that the entire league is doing it is a bit of a stretch.
Perhaps, but this is like saying that because Olympic athletes risk getting banned for life, most of them aren’t doping. Naive to say the least.
PEDs on their own aren’t going to make you a good player, but add PEDs to an intelligent, hardworking person - you get the best players in the NFL!
Looks like Joseph is expected to be shown the door shortly
Since Lamar has been starting it's actually been exciting watching them, obviously not sustainable in the long run, but he shows more flashes of quality QB attributes than Flacco showed for most of his career. People keep going on about him rushing out of the pocket, but he goes through his reads, looks to pass up until the last moment, and he doesn't lock on to one guy. As evidenced last night on that TD pass to Andrews he also leads his receivers, unlike Flacco who always made his receivers slow up to catch. His pocket awareness is also damn good.
He just needs to work on his mechanics. Setting to throw...
All that aside this is the Ravens football I fell in love with, smashmouth defence and running the ball down the other team's throats.
Pats better win, otherwise it’ll be a fecking meltdown...
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