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That's not serious analysis. Hes basically just ranking them week to week. How does Connor go from 8 to not in the top 15 in one week because he was injured? It's a farce.
Of course it’s just his opinion, it was just to prove that it’s not far-fetched to say Zeke is way better than Carson even if some metric proves otherwise. It’s also written by a guy who, unlike me according to bucky, presumably watches a ton of football.
 
@bucky I get the PFF analytics and what not, but it’s not as simple as you make it out.

One of the key reasons Zeke is not on there is because his O-Line carves out lanes for him. Hence, he gets marked down - yards gained due to big gaps created by the O-Line score less than yards gained by the back themselves.

Which is all fine and makes sense. But every yard his O-Line gain him is a yard he can’t gain himself, as he doesn’t have the oppprinity to do that. That doesn’t mean, though, that is Zeke was playing for the Seahawks or the Giants that he wouldn’t get the same yardage and ergo the same rating as Carson and Barkley.

Not saying he would or wouldn’t, just explaining why you can’t just take the rating in isolation. Like every statistic, you need context.

I've read quite a bit concerning the RB debate, but I think it's the first time I've heard that RBs look better or are grading better because of their inferior line, while a RB with a better offensive line can't grade as well, because the blocking is better for him. I understand what you are trying to say, I just don't agree with it.

Of course it’s just his opinion, it was just to prove that it’s not far-fetched to say Zeke is way better than Carson even if some metric proves otherwise. It’s also written by a guy who, unlike me according to bucky, presumably watches a ton of football.

Most people employed by the official NFL site/channel and espn also said that Sam Darnold, Josh Allen and Josh Rosen should be taken #1 by the Browns, while Mayfield was dismissed because of his height, arm and attitude. PFF was one of the few outlets that had Mayfield as their clear #1 QB and they've been proven right so far.

I've no issue, if people want to claim Elliott is the superior back. I just don't think he's quite a bit better than Carson like the OP I responded to put it and that there's an argument to be had there (at least this season).
 
Where’s Gurley? I do think Barkley has the highest ceiling for sure.

By PFF's grading he's #14. He also has one of the best offensive lines and offensive coordinators, hence he's looking as good as he is.
 
Chargers with a great chance to get a statement win tonight. Should be a good game.
 
Rivers wasting time appealing for a penalty :lol:
And now Chiefs called for PI. 1st and goal with 8 seconds left!
 
Refs have been shocking the last 20 seconds of this. Shocking coverage on the 2 point attempt, glad they went for it even if I do hate seeing Rivers win.
 
They get a TD and a 2 pt conversion :drool:

Chargers lead 29-28 with 4 seconds left to play.
 
Can see an all LA Superbowl this year Chargers just keep going and Kansas are so overrated
 
What a game, and what a comeback by the Chargers.

I really hope the Chiefs have to go to Baltimore in the WC Round.
 
Really enjoyable watch, amazing comeback, and good job to convert on the 2pt’er at the end. Never convinced it’s the right call, but paid off this time for sure!

A game which had some quality but also think it was affected by the short week. A tonne of flags, white scrappy at times, but some great plays when it counted the most.

Unbelievable that the Chiefs, despite their season, could end up a wildcard team...

Chiefs have Seahawks and Raiders.
Chargers have Ravens and Broncos.

Could go either way ...
 
Unbelievable ending to that game, can’t believe they went & got the 2pt conversion!!

AFC is tough to call... no clear team that is better than the rest.
 
Really enjoyable watch, amazing comeback, and good job to convert on the 2pt’er at the end. Never convinced it’s the right call, but paid off this time for sure!

A game which had some quality but also think it was affected by the short week. A tonne of flags, white scrappy at times, but some great plays when it counted the most.

Unbelievable that the Chiefs, despite their season, could end up a wildcard team...

Chiefs have Seahawks and Raiders.
Chargers have Ravens and Broncos.

Could go either way ...
I think it is. Apart from the math Eboue has already explained once, you risk giving the ball back to Mahomes in OT and not even getting on the field in that case.

The NFL is such that you're right if you convert and you're wrong if you don't but I think it was the right call last night. Like Lynn said post game, they came to win.
 
Why did the refs decide to give the game to the Chargers? Still on Belichicks payroll?
 
The DPI was on 3th down right? They still would've gotten a chance. But yeah, that was a bullshit call, just like the one on Gates. Officiating has been atrocious this season.
 
I think it is. Apart from the math Eboue has already explained once, you risk giving the ball back to Mahomes in OT and not even getting on the field in that case.

The NFL is such that you're right if you convert and you're wrong if you don't but I think it was the right call last night. Like Lynn said post game, they came to win.

It’s a fair point. If you go for it, it’s in your own hands.
 
The DPI was on 3th down right? They still would've gotten a chance. But yeah, that was a bullshit call, just like the one on Gates. Officiating has been atrocious this season.

There was a period where it was fla after flag after flag. Never seen so many instances where drives continued on third and long due to a defensive foul.
 
Can see an all LA Superbowl this year Chargers just keep going and Kansas are so overrated
Especially if they get Hunter Henry rolling by the playoffs.

A healthy Chargers team is probably the most balanced in the AFC and would be my pick in the playoffs.
 
Just a joke guys. Although the refs were not great last night.
 
They get a TD and a 2 pt conversion :drool:

Chargers lead 29-28 with 4 seconds left to play.

I was watching the whole game until my mate called me with 13 second to go, whilst the Chiefs were still up 28 to 21... Missed the finish :(
 
Didn't they miss the helmet to helmet by the Chiefs safety on Rivers on the last drive near the red zone?
Yeah, and the Chiefs had a drive extended by dodgy penalties a couple of times. Just another shocking performance by them.
 
Hardly any games this year where the refs haven’t had a poor game.

It’s frustrating, don’t see why / how it has regressed so much this year.
Didn't a fair few retire end of last season?
 
Didn't a fair few retire end of last season?

Think 3. But still, I personally think the confusion has come from how the committee has tried to clarify rules and not done it that well. And subsequently, they clearly haven’t invested the time necessary to discuss and ensure consistency.
 
Pretty much every single big game has lived up to the hype this season. The playoffs should be incredible. Philip rivers is good but he is a bit like Big Ben and I wouldn't trust him against someone like Brady or Brees in a tough situation
 
Pretty much every single big game has lived up to the hype this season. The playoffs should be incredible. Philip rivers is good but he is a bit like Big Ben and I wouldn't trust him against someone like Brady or Brees in a tough situation
He makes a lot of risky throws, but that’s part why I love him. Could’ve had 5 INTs yesterday :lol: Canton-bound imo.

I don’t think the Chiefs will go all the way. They’ve not been the same team without Hunt - keep ‘em under 30 and you have a great chance against their suspect defense, even with Berry back in the mix.

NFC, can’t see past a Rams-Saints conference finals. The Bears are a dark horse but I think they need the weather advantage of Chicago which they won’t have in LA or NO.

AFC, it’s gonna be Pats against the team which chokes the least. I like the Ravens as a dark horse.