Can't understand it either. Im shocked really. Both of these coaches are the top of the top at the moment. I said there's no way this game will turn out like the one against GB where so many poor coaching calls ultimately shaped the game. But there you have it, a terrible call, shaping the game. Maybe a Wilson 5 years from now would have ignored the call and run the ball. Who knows.
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Can't understand it either. Im shocked really. Both of these coaches are the top of the top at the moment. I said there's no way this game will turn out like the one against GB where so many poor coaching calls ultimately shaped the game. But there you have it, a terrible call, shaping the game. Maybe a Wilson 5 years from now would have ignored the call and run the ball. Who knows.
Overly dramatic people in the media as usual. If someone said worst decision in Super Bowl history by an OP caller / coach, I don't think it'd be far off the mark though...
So Carroll says that there were no mistakes, he didn't like the match ups on the D line for trying to run it in so they wanted to pass on that down and then try run it in if the pass was incomplete or didn't get in the end zone. The ground that Butler made up when the pass was thrown was actually really impressive. Carroll preferred the match up on the pass option instead and says that Butler made a great play on it and it is simple as that.
I'm no NFL coach but I don't see how he didn't like the match ups on the D line for trying to run it in on second down. Lynch will break tackles regardless, and even at that if the second down run doesn't get in you still have a time out left and chances on third and fourth down. He bottled it, says they didn't abandon the run game at all...tell that to Marshawn...
I'm no NFL coach but I don't see how he didn't like the match ups on the D line for trying to run it in on second down. Lynch will break tackles regardless, and even at that if the second down run doesn't get in you still have a time out left and chances on third and fourth down. He bottled it, says they didn't abandon the run game at all...tell that to Marshawn...
Those are are brilliant. We've all been there
No, it's ridiculous. He took a bunch of receivers no one has heard of and a not great offensive line and turned them into a top 5 offense.
Well, now Seattle knows how GB fans feel!
Aye. Que all the armchair QBs chiming in.
It was a terrible decision to make the call to pass, but it was a great defensive play by Butler. He deserves more credit for going in and making the pick happen.
at Blounts interview."I've never felt anything like this apart from the birth of my son."
*camera pans down to his daughter holding his hand*
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"I've never felt anything like this apart from the birth of my son."
"*camera pans down to his daughter holding his hand*
"I've never felt anything like this apart from the birth of my son."
"*camera pans down to his daughter holding his hand*
Do you have a link to the interview?
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My word. I am still in shock.
Thank god they threw that ball.
Thank god they threw that ball.
'Madden' sim totally nails Super Bowl prediction
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/gaming/2015/02/01/madden-super-bowl-prediction/22723547/
Impressive - although I bet they wouldn't have predicted passing the ball from the 1...
http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/gaming/2015/02/01/madden-super-bowl-prediction/22723547/
Impressive - although I bet they wouldn't have predicted passing the ball from the 1...
The ground that Butler makes up there is insane. Fantastic interception.
Do you have a link to the interview?
http://www.nfl.com/videos/nfl-super...unt-We-knew-we-were-going-to-snatch-that-pick
To be fair from the photo Eboue posted, though they could and should have run the ball - the actual play they went with wasn't that bad and could easily have come off.
Yep. They should have run it in the first place, but the reason they lost the game is more down to Butler making the play of his life than the 'Hawks making a bad offensive play. Looking at the still from Eboue, Lockette seemingly had all the space in the world to receive and run into the endzone.
That's a great photo. Looking at it there you're thinking its a TD all day. Super interception by Butler.
I still can't believe it! What a night!
Just watched it all now without finding out the score/anything... unbelievable stuff, and a completely ridiculous call to make in the last 30 seconds of the sodding Superbowl.
Happiest Monday I've had in ages! 
Happiest Monday I've had in ages!
Same here, been walking around smiling like and idiot all day. Of course being in Ireland nobody else has a clue how big of a deal a Super Bowl win is. Downloading the game now so I can enjoy again...and again...and again...
I had this bizarre dream that Seattle were playing the Pats in the Superbowl. There was 30 seconds left in the game, they had a time out remaining and three shots at the end zone. They had a yard to the goal line. They had Mershawn Lynch, arguably the most powerful running back in the game, BEAST MODE, on the field. They chose to play a pass call.
Yeah, crazy shit, that would never happen in real life...
Yeah, crazy shit, that would never happen in real life...
What's weird is, either this season or last, in a similar situation in a regular season game, 1-3 yards, last seconds, need a td, and they passed it too. So they have history of this kind of daftness.
Yessir!Happiest Monday I've had in ages!
Bevell was Minnesotas OC when favre threw the interception in the NFC championship game
Have not seen it yet, but I am sure some stat guy will put it out......how many times over this season and last, goal to go situations of similar distance did Seattle pass the ball? If the percentage is more than 10% I might, I say might, cut the coaches some slack. If less than 10% they simply outsmarted themselves.
Of course I am reminded of what one old coach/manager said (think it might have been a baseball guy) as a manager when a decision works your are at best called a genius though most likely get no credit at all, when it goes wrong you take all the blame, even if your decision was the right one to make but just did not work.
Still I would have either run or if I really wanted to pass I would have gone for a fade into a corner or something along the back, high enough so it is either caught by your receiver or flies out of the endzone.
Of course I am reminded of what one old coach/manager said (think it might have been a baseball guy) as a manager when a decision works your are at best called a genius though most likely get no credit at all, when it goes wrong you take all the blame, even if your decision was the right one to make but just did not work.
Still I would have either run or if I really wanted to pass I would have gone for a fade into a corner or something along the back, high enough so it is either caught by your receiver or flies out of the endzone.
All right different situation in that it was 3rd and 3, you could still make a first down and there were still 58 seconds left, so you had at least one more try at it. 49ers were in a MUST THROW situation.
But this is how it is done, if you are throwing.
Of course lost in the hype of this play is the fact that the Cowboys got the ball back and Ronnie Lott (I think it was Ronnie) had to make a potentially game saving tackle at midfield to prevent Dallas from scoring the winner soon after this.
But this is how it is done, if you are throwing.
Of course lost in the hype of this play is the fact that the Cowboys got the ball back and Ronnie Lott (I think it was Ronnie) had to make a potentially game saving tackle at midfield to prevent Dallas from scoring the winner soon after this.
Got a link mate?
I haz link, will send in PM.
Would you be kind enough to send that my way, too?
According to what seem to be legit media outlets, Donald Trump blames Barack Obama for the stupid play call.
That's the beauty of following the NFL and living here. When your team loses, there's no one to give you shit about it the next day.
I signed up for Game Pass on NFL network for the off season. Lots and lots of replays of that game for the next 6 months. Plus I can't wait to see this year's 'America's Game'
Yeah I signed out for gamepass for the playoffs too, the wankers still have the Super Bowl blacked out on it. Surely we should be able to watch it by now?
Six Superbowl appearances in 13 years. That's nearly one every second year. Unreal!
I get Game Pass for the regular season and then watch Sky Sports for the play offs. But seeing as it'll be pleasant viewing for the next few months I shelled out $49 for it again until August. The black out is ridiculous. 24 hours I think.
Yep, the way things work in NFL.
Yesterday, I was thinking, take the FG rather than risk going for a TD with 6 seconds left in the first half. You get the ball back anyway. They threw a TD and the defence gave so much space. (pretty much similar to the pick). Ended up being the right call, but likewise we could be here saying "why not take the easy 3 as youre gettint the ball back" if they had fecked it up.
When Lynch ran, I was thinking, "why stop him on the 1 yard line, let him score cos they will run it in next play" and by doing that you will save time for Brady to work his magic. Alas, they intercepted a pass play instead of rushing that 1 yard.
Fine margins. Despite me still thinking its crazy they didnt go for the 1 yard rush on 2nd down with BeastMode there. lol
TBH im just glad something crazier happened than the Packers collapse in the NFC championship game.
Yesterday, I was thinking, take the FG rather than risk going for a TD with 6 seconds left in the first half. You get the ball back anyway. They threw a TD and the defence gave so much space. (pretty much similar to the pick). Ended up being the right call, but likewise we could be here saying "why not take the easy 3 as youre gettint the ball back" if they had fecked it up.
When Lynch ran, I was thinking, "why stop him on the 1 yard line, let him score cos they will run it in next play" and by doing that you will save time for Brady to work his magic. Alas, they intercepted a pass play instead of rushing that 1 yard.
Fine margins. Despite me still thinking its crazy they didnt go for the 1 yard rush on 2nd down with BeastMode there. lol
TBH im just glad something crazier happened than the Packers collapse in the NFC championship game.
All the Superb Owl's prior to yesterdays game
XLVIII Feb. 2, 2014 Seattle 43, Denver 8
XLVII Feb. 3, 2013 Ravens 34, 49ers 31
XLVI Feb. 5, 2012 Giants 21, Patriots 17
XLV Feb. 6, 2011 Packers 31, Steelers 25
XLIV Feb. 7, 2010 Saints 31 Colts 17
XLIII Feb. 1, 2009 Pittsburgh 27 Arizona 23
XLII Feb. 3, 2008 New York 17, New England 14
XLI Feb. 4, 2007 Indianapolis 29, Chicago 17
XL Feb. 5, 2006 Pittsburgh 21, Seattle 10
XXXIX Feb. 6, 2005 New England 24, Philadelphia 21
XXXVIII Feb. 1, 2004 New England 32, Carolina 29
XXXVII Jan. 26, 2003 Tampa Bay 48, Oakland 21
XXXVI Feb. 3, 2002 New England 20, St. Louis 17
XXXV Jan. 28, 2001 Baltimore 34, N.Y. Giants 7
XXXIV Jan. 30, 2000 St. Louis 23, Tennessee 16
XXXIII Jan. 31, 1999 Denver 34, Atlanta 19
XXXII Jan. 25, 1998 Denver 31, Green Bay 24
XXXI Jan. 26, 1997 Green Bay 35, New England 21
XXX Jan. 28, 1996 Dallas 27, Pittsburgh 17
XXIX Jan. 29, 1995 San Francisco 49, San Diego 26
XXVIII Jan. 30, 1994 Dallas 30, Buffalo 13
XXVII Jan. 31, 1993 Dallas 52, Buffalo 17
XXVI Jan. 26, 1992 Washington 37, Buffalo 24
XXV Jan. 27, 1991 N.Y. Giants 20, Buffalo 19
XXIV Jan. 28, 1990 San Francisco 55, Denver 10
XXIII Jan. 22, 1989 San Francisco 20, Cincinnati 16
XXII Jan. 31, 1988 Washington 42, Denver 10
XXI Jan. 25, 1987 N.Y. Giants 39, Denver 20
XX Jan. 26, 1986 Chicago 46, New England 10
XIX Jan. 20, 1985 San Francisco 38, Miami 16
XVIII Jan. 22, 1984 L.A. Raiders 38, Washington 9
XVII Jan. 30, 1983 Washington 27, Miami 17
XVI Jan. 24, 1982 San Francisco 26, Cincinnati 21
XV Jan. 25, 1981 Oakland 27, Philadelphia 10
XIV Jan. 20, 1980 Pittsburgh 31, L.A. Rams 19
XIII Jan. 21, 1979 Pittsburgh 35, Dallas 31
XII Jan. 15, 1978 Dallas 27, Denver 10
XI Jan. 9, 1977 Oakland 32, Minnesota 14
X Jan. 18, 1976 Pittsburgh 21, Dallas 17
IX Jan. 12, 1975 Pittsburgh 16, Minnesota 6
VIII Jan. 13, 1974 Miami 24, Minnesota 7
VII Jan. 14, 1973 Miami 14, Washington 7
VI Jan. 16, 1972 Dallas 24, Miami 3
V Jan. 17, 1971 Baltimore 16, Dallas 13
IV Jan. 11, 1970 Kansas City 23, Minnesota 7
III Jan. 12, 1969 N.Y. Jets 16, Baltimore 7
II Jan. 14, 1968 Green Bay 33, Oakland 14
I Jan. 15, 1967 Green Bay 35, Kansas City 10
Been alive for all of them, though the first one I remember at all is Super Bowl VI. Maybe we should do a Duffy style vote ranking the games in order of which we think are best and worst. Or maybe just the 10 best since I am going to guess most of the posters, like me, have not seen them all.
Notice the early patterns. First two won by NFC (NFL at the time as it was pre-merger). Then up until 1982, you have 11 out of 13 going to the AFC. Then of the next 16 you see the NFC winning all but one (the Raiders taking XVIII). Of the games since then AFC holds a couple of wins advantage but not a total dominance.
XLVIII Feb. 2, 2014 Seattle 43, Denver 8
XLVII Feb. 3, 2013 Ravens 34, 49ers 31
XLVI Feb. 5, 2012 Giants 21, Patriots 17
XLV Feb. 6, 2011 Packers 31, Steelers 25
XLIV Feb. 7, 2010 Saints 31 Colts 17
XLIII Feb. 1, 2009 Pittsburgh 27 Arizona 23
XLII Feb. 3, 2008 New York 17, New England 14
XLI Feb. 4, 2007 Indianapolis 29, Chicago 17
XL Feb. 5, 2006 Pittsburgh 21, Seattle 10
XXXIX Feb. 6, 2005 New England 24, Philadelphia 21
XXXVIII Feb. 1, 2004 New England 32, Carolina 29
XXXVII Jan. 26, 2003 Tampa Bay 48, Oakland 21
XXXVI Feb. 3, 2002 New England 20, St. Louis 17
XXXV Jan. 28, 2001 Baltimore 34, N.Y. Giants 7
XXXIV Jan. 30, 2000 St. Louis 23, Tennessee 16
XXXIII Jan. 31, 1999 Denver 34, Atlanta 19
XXXII Jan. 25, 1998 Denver 31, Green Bay 24
XXXI Jan. 26, 1997 Green Bay 35, New England 21
XXX Jan. 28, 1996 Dallas 27, Pittsburgh 17
XXIX Jan. 29, 1995 San Francisco 49, San Diego 26
XXVIII Jan. 30, 1994 Dallas 30, Buffalo 13
XXVII Jan. 31, 1993 Dallas 52, Buffalo 17
XXVI Jan. 26, 1992 Washington 37, Buffalo 24
XXV Jan. 27, 1991 N.Y. Giants 20, Buffalo 19
XXIV Jan. 28, 1990 San Francisco 55, Denver 10
XXIII Jan. 22, 1989 San Francisco 20, Cincinnati 16
XXII Jan. 31, 1988 Washington 42, Denver 10
XXI Jan. 25, 1987 N.Y. Giants 39, Denver 20
XX Jan. 26, 1986 Chicago 46, New England 10
XIX Jan. 20, 1985 San Francisco 38, Miami 16
XVIII Jan. 22, 1984 L.A. Raiders 38, Washington 9
XVII Jan. 30, 1983 Washington 27, Miami 17
XVI Jan. 24, 1982 San Francisco 26, Cincinnati 21
XV Jan. 25, 1981 Oakland 27, Philadelphia 10
XIV Jan. 20, 1980 Pittsburgh 31, L.A. Rams 19
XIII Jan. 21, 1979 Pittsburgh 35, Dallas 31
XII Jan. 15, 1978 Dallas 27, Denver 10
XI Jan. 9, 1977 Oakland 32, Minnesota 14
X Jan. 18, 1976 Pittsburgh 21, Dallas 17
IX Jan. 12, 1975 Pittsburgh 16, Minnesota 6
VIII Jan. 13, 1974 Miami 24, Minnesota 7
VII Jan. 14, 1973 Miami 14, Washington 7
VI Jan. 16, 1972 Dallas 24, Miami 3
V Jan. 17, 1971 Baltimore 16, Dallas 13
IV Jan. 11, 1970 Kansas City 23, Minnesota 7
III Jan. 12, 1969 N.Y. Jets 16, Baltimore 7
II Jan. 14, 1968 Green Bay 33, Oakland 14
I Jan. 15, 1967 Green Bay 35, Kansas City 10
Been alive for all of them, though the first one I remember at all is Super Bowl VI. Maybe we should do a Duffy style vote ranking the games in order of which we think are best and worst. Or maybe just the 10 best since I am going to guess most of the posters, like me, have not seen them all.
Notice the early patterns. First two won by NFC (NFL at the time as it was pre-merger). Then up until 1982, you have 11 out of 13 going to the AFC. Then of the next 16 you see the NFC winning all but one (the Raiders taking XVIII). Of the games since then AFC holds a couple of wins advantage but not a total dominance.
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I've seen them all since 1985. Obviously the ones I've enjoyed the most were the Patriots wins. The Cowboys' wins were some fun games too. The rout of Buffalo was fun to watch. Montana and Jerry Rice were always impressive.