NFL Thread 2014-2015

I'm ill and stuck in bed, so I read a Pats forum for the first time ever today. I'm a Pats fan myself, but Jesus H Christ they are some obnoxious, holier than thou, assholes.
I would say they a Pats player could murder somebody and they'd claim that the victim shouldn't have got in the way of the bullets, but, you know...
 
gormless said:
I'm ill and stuck in bed, so I read a Pats forum for the first time ever today. I'm a Pats fan myself, but Jesus H Christ they are some obnoxious, holier than thou, assholes.
I would say they a Pats player could murder somebody and they'd claim that the victim shouldn't have got in the way of the bullets, but, you know...
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I agree. I'm a member of Pats group on Facebook. Its horrendous reading some times. Some of the most stupid people on earth are members of that group.
 
gormless said:
I'm ill and stuck in bed, so I read a Pats forum for the first time ever today. I'm a Pats fan myself, but Jesus H Christ they are some obnoxious, holier than thou, assholes.
I would say they a Pats player could murder somebody and they'd claim that the victim shouldn't have got in the way of the bullets, but, you know...
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I had the misfortune of sitting in front of some neanderthal Pats fans at a Wembley game last season. Ive hated the team since.
 
gormless said:
I'm ill and stuck in bed, so I read a Pats forum for the first time ever today. I'm a Pats fan myself, but Jesus H Christ they are some obnoxious, holier than thou, assholes.
I would say they a Pats player could murder somebody and they'd claim that the victim shouldn't have got in the way of the bullets, but, you know...
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I joined a Pats forum once. That did not last long...
 
gormless said:
Which one by any chance? I was reading Patsfans.com
They were using an amateur video of an experiment a guy performed on an 8 year old football to show how balls naturally deflate in half an hour. It was like Rawk
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Honestly, can't remember. It was in the middle of all the Hernandez stuff.

Insane though, yes. The worst poster was a Jets fan, though.
 
Belichick presser on now.

He says he knows nothing about how the balls are prepared. Its not his responsibility. He concentrates on the coaching and prepping the team.

Apparently, the balls are inflated to the minimum 12.5psi but in future they'll prepare them closer to the maximum to allow for any deflation that occurs during cold weather or adverse game conditions.
 
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About what you would expect him to say at this point. It would be interesting to know if any NFL head coaches get involved in discussion about how to prepare the footballs for games or if they just appoint someone to take care it and leave it up to them to work with the players about what works best for them?
 
Apparently the balls were deflated only in the first half, with the second half balls being the correct pressure. Brady's stats also improved so it's not as if the deflated balls helped him pass better, nor did they have any impact on the result.

However, it's against the rules and the Pats deserve punishment if it is found the balls were deflated on purpose via team orders.
 
If it was just down to cold weather causing deflation surely the Indy balls would be affected as well.
 
This is being overblown. All the players and coaches asked about this have brushed it off as a non-issue. This includes people on the Indy team.

@Rado_N Each team have their set of footballs that they use.

Edit: Like the idiot I am, I misread your post
 
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Rado_N said:
If it was just down to cold weather causing deflation surely the Indy balls would be affected as well.
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Do we have any reports on Indy balls ?

Maybe Wilson produced a bad serie of balloons.
 
Rado_N said:
If it was just down to cold weather causing deflation surely the Indy balls would be affected as well.
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Well I guess the explanation would be that it depends on the starting point PSI. Yes if it was the weather all the balls would deflate some, but if Indy had inflated theirs to 13.0 and they lost .1 PSI due to the cold, they would still be over the legal lower limit. Where if you had inflated the balls just to the point that they were at the lower legal limit, then lost .1 PSI you would then be below the legal limit.

Of course I am talking in theory here since I have no idea if what the Hoodie said is true or not.

Another question to ask in this whole thing is who maintains the measuring devices that the officials use to check the game balls? If each club does then another way to cheat is to mess with the measuring devices so that they read incorrectly. You present underinflated footballs, they read as being inflated enough and viola you have officially approved illegal footballs in the game.
 
adexkola said:
This is being overblown. All the players and coaches asked about this have brushed it off as a non-issue. This includes people on the Indy team.

@Rado_N Each team have their set of footballs that they use.
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Yea exactly, which is why I was saying it's funny only the Pats were 'affected by the cold'.

Re the other responses of the Pats using the lowest possible level, that does make sense, but I'm sure I read a report somewhere that they were 2psi under the minimum?
 
Anderson's Cat said:
Its possible the Indy balls were inflated higher. The Patriots apparently inflate their balls to the minimum, which they now will address.
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Yes there is a range that the balls can be inflated to in order to still be considered legal and according to The Hoodie, that Pats inflate their balls to the minimum level, so if they do lose any pressure due to the cold they do end up being under inflated.

I think in NASCAR they had some similar issues with tire pressure causing cars to be technically out of legal spec. They would go through pre-race inspection with fully inflated tires, making the car legal. But during the race they always use underinflated tires because as they race the tires heat up causing the air inside to expand and inflate the tires more. The problem being that by time some cars got into post race inspection their tires had cooled resulting in the car being out of spec. height wise. Adjustments to the springs and shocks during the race also caused issues. Not sure how this relates, but I felt like typing it.
 
Rado_N said:
Yea exactly, which is why I was saying it's funny only the Pats were 'affected by the cold'.

Re the other responses of the Pats using the lowest possible level, that does make sense, but I'm sure I read a report somewhere that they were 2psi under the minimum?
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That has not been officially release by the NFL yet, so not sure if that is the case our not. 2psi seems to be a lot to lose out of a ball at 12 psi, If initially the balls were inflated and tested indoors where the temp was say 67F and then went out into the cold of say 20F or whatever it was during the game, would they lose that much pressure?
 
Rado_N said:
Yea exactly, which is why I was saying it's funny only the Pats were 'affected by the cold'.

Re the other responses of the Pats using the lowest possible level, that does make sense, but I'm sure I read a report somewhere that they were 2psi under the minimum?
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Apparently you're allowed between 12.5 and 13.5, which would mean the Pats balls were 10.5 +/-, and if Indys were effected to a similar state if began at max(lof of ifs there, too), would be 11.5 +/- and still under spec.
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The Gronk tweet was brilliant.
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Absolutely.
 
JustAFan said:
That has not been officially release by the NFL yet, so not sure if that is the case our not. 2psi seems to be a lot to lose out of a ball at 12 psi, If initially the balls were inflated and tested indoors where the temp was say 67F and then went out into the cold of say 20F or whatever it was during the game, would they lose that much pressure?
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Assuming constant volume, that temperature drop would cause the pressure to drop by 1.1 psi. So... meh
 
When we think about it, it's maybe the reason why the packers overinflate the balls, maybe rodgers wants the balls very close from 13.5 PSI.
 
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