Taking the fall for the GM?
NFL 2023
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Vrabel is a bit overhyped tbh, good coach but he doesn’t get questioned enough because his team plays hard for him. I understand the offensive issues that they have had with no QB & trading AJ but he is a defensive guy and yet their defence has been average as well. His overall record needs to be matched with the fact that the AFC south has been a dumpster fire for the last 5 years
Vrabel is a good HC, very surprised by that. I still remember his clock management the playoff game at Foxborough. Clearly can motivate his teams. Be interesting to see where he ends up.
I think Vrabel is a very good head coach but I didn't realise how bad they've been record wise the last 2 seasons
I always wanted him at the Patriots but I still think Jerod Mayo is the favourite when Bill leaves.
I always wanted him at the Patriots but I still think Jerod Mayo is the favourite when Bill leaves.
I wouldn’t say their roster has been stacked with much talent though the last 2 years and you also have to remember the QB injuries. It’s not been a great record but he’s definitely shown he is a good HC and suspect he will get another opportunity at some point soon.
Just realized that, barring major upsets at Arrowhead and Orchard Park, Joe Flacco will travel to Baltimore for a Divisional Round playoff game if the Browns beat the Texans on Saturday. Would be a silver lining to the Browns going through for me.
I'd assume it was Eberflus in the first place who hired both OC and DC. Then what makes the Bears front office think that he'd get it right this time at such a crucial juncture for the franchise?
The OC job is gonna be a coveted one though - you either get to (finally) implement a scheme which suits Fields' strengths, or you get to develop one of the best QB prospects in the last decade or so. They really need to nail this coaching cycle.
Did not expect this given it was another winning season. Feel like it's probably for the best but glad he's sticking around as an advisor.
I truly hate the word “winningest”, it’s so unnecessary and stupid.
But without it, how would we know who was the most winningy?
Looks like its going to be snow games galore this weekend. Don't think I'd fancy going to the Chiefs v Dolphins games though. Currently expected to be -18 centigrade, plus wind chill.
It's funny i watched the end of the Seahawks game on the weekend and did think he looked really old on the touchline like he was tired of it.
Least he went out on a win but I'll always remember him for screwing up in the superbowl and giving Patriots another win
I agree with you.
Ended his time 0-5 against the 9ers which is bizarre given o think he went 16-2 before that
Judging by his press conference, think it was less that he was tired of it and more that he knew it might be his last game, at least as the Seahawks HC.It's funny i watched the end of the Seahawks game on the weekend and did think he looked really old on the touchline like he was tired of it.
Least he went out on a win but I'll always remember him for screwing up in the superbowl and giving Patriots another win
Am also very glad he went out with a win. And unsurprisingly, I'll choose to remember the superbowl before that more
Yeah, shame that dominance ended. He finished 8-0 against the Eagles, glad Drew Lock kept that record intact
Carroll gone
Vrabel gone
Sirianni maybe out / likely out
Belichick maybe out
next season is going to be CRAZY! And that is before you start thinking we might have Harbaugh back in the league with the Chargers.
Vrabel gone
Sirianni maybe out / likely out
Belichick maybe out
next season is going to be CRAZY! And that is before you start thinking we might have Harbaugh back in the league with the Chargers.
And the Goat college coach leaving a blue-blood gig open - not even counting the Michigan job yet. Lots of uncertainty ahead for desirable HC candidates.
If Chargers can get Harbaugh, i definitely go that route. But I'd like to see what Belichick could do with Herby and a lot of defensive spend that can't be moved on.
Quite the crazy opening few days of January in American football regardless the level.
I'd be shocked if he's DONE done, especially if the rumors are true that he's desperate for Shula's all-time W record.
Rejoice Bijan, Pitts, London owners if this happens.
Belichick to the Bucs to try and do what Brady did without him.
Falcons would be an intriguing destination for Belicunt considering Blank has tried to lure some legends in the past - Gibbs, Parcells - only to get the stiff arm. If he did end up there that's probably a Fields trade out of the picture.
If they let BB work with Ridder or Heinecke he won't win more than 5 games unless he's not involved in play-calling and they get in a genius OC.
Falcons need to trade for Fields or trade up in the draft and shoot for Daniels, Maye or Williams. And then repeat that move until you've found your franchise QB. The Texans' approach last season, going from last to first in the division, just shows that all you need is a hit on a franchise QB to be competitive.
Don't think he'd go to a team with such liability & uncertainty at the QB position.
I think it's gonna be more about which team gives him the most control to do his thing and Blank wants to win before death arrives.
He could crave the Bears gig with all the draft capital and potentially more by trading Fields.
If you're talking GM responsibilities, should again be avoided at all costs. The Pats' track record in the draft the last half decade or so is atrocious.
No doubt but he's surely going to be seeking it out. Whether it's offered and eventually given is a separate thing.
Bill is 70-82 as a head coach when Brady isn't playing. I doubt he would be successful anywhere else if he chooses to continue coaching.
I'm an armchair NFL fan so please excuse the ignorance, but surely that figure would be the same for most teams who have a franchise QB and the back up is no where near the level they need to complete the plays etc?
And doesn't that show that Bill is a great when he has a franchise QB and he still manages to win 45% without?
I'm just thinking how other coaches' records compare when the starting QB is injured yet have a comparable data of how many years together
Can't compare as football is so different from NFL, but I'd love to know what Fergie's record is like should someone like Ronaldo / Keane but be free and the win ratio
Bit of a mish/mash post but hope you get what I'm trying to say
I think you're probably right to a degree, but its hard to compare since some head coaches win Super Bowls in the absence of franchise QBs (Doug Williams, Hostetler, Dilfer, Brad Johnson, Foles etc). In Bill's case, if you followed his career in the 90s, it was pretty clear that he was struggling as a HC. He actually had another franchise QB in Bledsoe, but he got injured in game two of the 2001 season and Brady was forced to come off the bench. The rest is history.
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Funnily you mention Bledsoe as I moved to CT back in '91 and the first person I ever heard of who had the same first name as me was him, hence the Pats fan and we were only a few hours from Boston and CT didn't have an NFL team (Go Whalers!!).
Foles was a very good back up and had a decent run before the playoffs so they could get the plays suited for him - you might be completely correcting me shortly but just from what I got from the Osi / Jason show in the UK - not sure about the other QB's if i'm being honest but thanks for something to look up tonight!
Winston gets $107m if he the Saints don’t cut him by the middle of March. Yeah he’s gone
Might be the worst post in this thread
Might be the worst post in this thread
Reality isn't discriminatory. It is what it is.
Winston gets $107m if he the Saints don’t cut him by the middle of March. Yeah he’s gone
Can't decide if this is worse than the Osweiler contract with Houston, or perhaps Bradford at AZ.