A pity we weren't in for him, he's feckin quality. A step down for Neymar though, no matter how you put it really. He'll spend the best years of his career in Ligue 1, what a waste.
Neymar Jr | PSG | 2017/2018 performances
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Saw some Arsenal season ticket holder on twitter (he has over 100,000 followers so must have something about him) saying that Neymar signed a £500 million agreement with Qatar and PSG don't have to pay a transfer fee or anything. Surely that's BS?
1. It would interesting and refreshing to see new faces there and an updated offensive strategy
2. Strange to say it's a bad move for PSG because the management, the fans and the players are delighted to welcome him. Cavani is a CF so where is the problem if a wing-forward scores less than a CF? Also, Cavani could benefit from the work of Neymar. Expectations about PSG are high since 2012, especially when it comes to Champions League.
3. I see an average potential rise of 20-30%, certainly not of 50%-100%. Inflation is driven by so many factors: TVs...
4. You underrate his ability to shine under pressure.
Why couldn't they just knock a million off and give it to me? Or a fiver, whatever
I don't necessarily disagree with the overarching point but the one thing I totally disagree with is the idea that you or I are right in this scenario. It's just not that black or white. Most people make decisions for irrational reasons and then go through a period of post-rationalisation. I was just presenting one line of thinking. It's not difficult to see how someone could convince themselves that this is an exciting new challenge, simply because - for rational or irrational reasons - they feel bored or trapped in their current situation.
You're looking at it purely from a perspective of analysing all of the rational inputs and outputs, assessing them in their totality and then making a judgement on them. When we make decisions, even life-changing decisions, we don't process things that way. Most of the time people do what they do without really knowing why they do it. You only need to take a cursory glance at any number of these concepts to see that clearly:
Or for a slightly more engaging way of exploring the ideas...just listen to a talk from Dan Ariely.
Lord a' mercy I feel like I've stumbled onto FootballBible.Facebook.internet.com.YES SO MUCH WINNING! I FECKING BLOODY FECKING LOVE THIS!!!! PSG with this has reached the Echelon of trolling Gods
What's that based on? Certainly not the only available evidence...Ibrahimovic finished 4th in the Ballon d'Or rankings at PSG in 2013, higher than at any previous point in his career. You could argue he was no better then than he was for Inter in 2008 or Milan in 2011, so it certainly didn't hurt him in the way people suggested.
He scored 20 goals last year. I seriously doubt he will be as influential as Ibra was. Good luck though.
Cant believe a club would pay 200m for a player 
And i didn't expect Pogbas transfer record to be broken so soon...
And i didn't expect Pogbas transfer record to be broken so soon...
QFT. He's a diving....little shitbag. I can't say what I want cos I'll get another warning
Reading the same rubbish again with getting the money via shirt sales in many forums...
Annoying
Annoying
He's better than Ibra, so why wouldn't he be?
We can only go by last year's numbers. Ibra at 35 was more influential than Neighmar in his prime. Maybe the French league can help him reclaim his mojo. Or maybe not.
Are you just measuring influence in terms of goals scored?
A bit of everything. Goals scored, influence on the pitch relative to his teammeates, leadership in the dressing room. It all counts.
Still debatable imo, but I certainly won't deny Ibra was highly influential for us. If he had more support in attack, he would have got even more credit for the great season he had.
The surprise that no one sees it coming at all at the beginning of the summer. I won't be surprised anymore by any transfer being done after this.
Neymar will score a big loads of goals in France and will be the icon of this team. His real challenge is to make them European champion and CL winners, which should be achievable considering the squad they have it would shambolic for them to no challenge again the upcoming season.
I'm looking ahead to see the consequences of this move on both Neymar and PSG and how they will become in CL.
The bubble has finally bursted!
Neymar will score a big loads of goals in France and will be the icon of this team. His real challenge is to make them European champion and CL winners, which should be achievable considering the squad they have it would shambolic for them to no challenge again the upcoming season.
I'm looking ahead to see the consequences of this move on both Neymar and PSG and how they will become in CL.
The bubble has finally bursted!
What is PSG's starting XI like ?
@endless_wheelies, regarding this post of yours:
"He was lucky to get this move away from Barcelona though considering the buyout figure; you can bet if the anti-Qatar political situation wasn't occurring in the Middle East currently this transfer would not be happening, and he'd be stuck in Messi's shadow near-indefinitely. And even now that it has happened I fail to buy that in his dream of all dreams smashing a double hattrick against Amiens and leading PSG to a Ligue 1 title romp by 15 points was included.
If he wanted the Ballon d'Or he'd have been best suited in England, and that was never going to happen to happen via Barcelona."
I think the fee is inevitable. Back in 2013 or something Perez already saw Neymar as 150mil player. Player prices has gone up few different level since.
It's not his dream to win Ligue 1 or anything, but having a greater chance to have a shot as World Best Player Award. He doesn't need to go all out in French league to achieve it while can save his best for the big tournament, be it for Brazil NT & CL. If he can do that, those should be enough to edge out Messi, Ronaldo given he is no longer being direct compared league form to those playing in same league & same team.
English is another beast altogether. It may require even more effort to win it than those of La Liga top teams which means going into CL with less fuel in tank. Winning PL doesn't necessarily up your chance winning the World Best Player Award.
"He was lucky to get this move away from Barcelona though considering the buyout figure; you can bet if the anti-Qatar political situation wasn't occurring in the Middle East currently this transfer would not be happening, and he'd be stuck in Messi's shadow near-indefinitely. And even now that it has happened I fail to buy that in his dream of all dreams smashing a double hattrick against Amiens and leading PSG to a Ligue 1 title romp by 15 points was included.
If he wanted the Ballon d'Or he'd have been best suited in England, and that was never going to happen to happen via Barcelona."
I think the fee is inevitable. Back in 2013 or something Perez already saw Neymar as 150mil player. Player prices has gone up few different level since.
It's not his dream to win Ligue 1 or anything, but having a greater chance to have a shot as World Best Player Award. He doesn't need to go all out in French league to achieve it while can save his best for the big tournament, be it for Brazil NT & CL. If he can do that, those should be enough to edge out Messi, Ronaldo given he is no longer being direct compared league form to those playing in same league & same team.
English is another beast altogether. It may require even more effort to win it than those of La Liga top teams which means going into CL with less fuel in tank. Winning PL doesn't necessarily up your chance winning the World Best Player Award.
I think this is extremely awesome this transfer happened.
Barthelona's tears are delicious.
Neymar took his money and ran, I hope he's ready to walk the French league by 15 points and continuously lose in the quarters and semis in the CL.
Barthelona's tears are delicious.
Neymar took his money and ran, I hope he's ready to walk the French league by 15 points and continuously lose in the quarters and semis in the CL.
I'm glad this went through... finally. Maybe now, the pundits (like Alexi Lalas) will shut the hell up about Pogba's fee. I get tired of people like him making it a point to drone on and on about it every single game they call.
This was all very smoothly done from a PSG point of view; despite all the bluster from Barca, this has not been drawn out at all, especially for a transfer of this size. Get the sense they've been planning this for a couple of years now.
Thank fook we got Pogba last year.
Don't really like it. This is all about money and everyone knows it. I'm sure PSG fans will think different but we've seen it with city spending nearly 50 million for all their defenders...they are destroying common sense. They can sell Paris all they like. This is about greed. More people will watch PSG but expecting crushing victories. There is no balance to the league. How can any team compete with them and their megalomania? Perhaps these spanish clubs deserve it. This presidency bs promising this player or that player is tapping up. They've cheated or used these loopholes for years. Perhaps cheated isn't the right word but the structure goes against respecting teams. So feck them all. They're a disgrace. From a footballing perspective. The French league is what it is. A spring board for other leagues. Let's give Celtic oil money and they would challenge for the CL too. It's just messed up. Neymar will waste the best years of his footballing career in France. If he scores 60 goals? Don't care. You had to go to an inferior league to do it.
If he said, he fancied the lifestyle? That's different. If he said he wanted to do something Unique? That's different. There are clearly better ways to go about it if you want to be seen as the best. Obviously the price made PSG favourites and they bent over and let him have what he wanted. It's not good for football. He is NO maradona. Even though he played for Napoli the league was a great league at the time. Anyway, for me sure it's nice to see Spanish clubs slapped about - they clearly promote a league that is imbalanced but at the same time because of these people, no one is going to be challenging PSG for the forseeable future as a result that they practically own the market in France now and through no work - but I guess a 'project' in France is nice..
Sorry to the other French clubs. Maybe you will get new fans but only resulting from people despising PSG for this nonsense as opposed to celebrating your league
If he said, he fancied the lifestyle? That's different. If he said he wanted to do something Unique? That's different. There are clearly better ways to go about it if you want to be seen as the best. Obviously the price made PSG favourites and they bent over and let him have what he wanted. It's not good for football. He is NO maradona. Even though he played for Napoli the league was a great league at the time. Anyway, for me sure it's nice to see Spanish clubs slapped about - they clearly promote a league that is imbalanced but at the same time because of these people, no one is going to be challenging PSG for the forseeable future as a result that they practically own the market in France now and through no work - but I guess a 'project' in France is nice..
Sorry to the other French clubs. Maybe you will get new fans but only resulting from people despising PSG for this nonsense as opposed to celebrating your league
I can 100% tell you that the first name will be Neymar
>"We can do things in the transfer market no one else can"
> PSG get Neymar and we struggle to close a deal for a player like Perisic.
sounds about right
> PSG get Neymar and we struggle to close a deal for a player like Perisic.
sounds about right
And it's finally happened! What a way to smash the world record! £200m ! He'll win a lot of league titles no doubt, but it'll be interesting to see how far PSG go in the CL.
As for PSG fanbase, I live in India. I'm yet to see a PSG fan or someone wearing a PSG Jersey. Doubt that'll change anytime soon.
As for PSG fanbase, I live in India. I'm yet to see a PSG fan or someone wearing a PSG Jersey. Doubt that'll change anytime soon.
PSG took less time to complete the transfer of Neymar than we did trying to sign Perisic.
Release clause is the key. PSG could have offer the same money, but if there were no release clause, Barcelona likely wouldn't sell.
As Oscar said, if it wasn't about the money, he wouldn't have left Brazil.
Zlatan did bring many audience for PSG as well as help them first stepped on higher level. Before Zlatan, PSG already made many signings but those doesn't attract enough attention. Zlatan transfer did just that & PSG got some respect. Ever since PSG doesn't have problem getting a host of very good players.
Neymar signing woukd elevate them to next level where now they make a statement that they can attract top players, even from the big clubs. More attention will be paid toward PSG & French league.
Neymar playing in Ligue 1 would help him save plenty of fuel for him to perform with Brazil NT team. For all we know, WC however debatable it is to judge a player ability, holds huge influence in those individual award. Neymar doesn't need to go all the way, but outperformed Ronaldo & Messi should be sufficient.
Great player in a decent team. Essentially, PSG did a Juventus and this signing guarantees the league title in the next few seasons, especially with Monaco selling so many plaeyrs (and Mbappe potentially leaving). This won't win them the CL. Of course, this might be the first of several big signing made over the course of 2-3 seasons.
Yup, cnuts.
shoutout to neymar for looking after his economic interests tbh, clubs do the same, and the career of a footballer is short and one injury could feck it all up all of a sudden. neymar will already go down as a very good player and an instrumental part of a successful barcelona, and that's all at 25 years of age, if things go well for him he will break a few records in the french league, add a few more titles to his resume, become a club legend at PSG and maybe, just maybe, give them the push they have been missing to win the CL, they certainly have a strong team.
get your money breh
get your money breh
Has anyone seen the farewell post he made? Looks like his father wasn't pushing for the PSG move after all; he says this decision is contrary to the one his father recommended. Interesting for him to say that publicly.
We don't know which his father suggested... He could have suggested going to China, Russia... for all we know
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After all the money spent and huge deal they signed to get him he could play as goalkeeper if he says so. That being said I think it's pretty obvious and safe to assume he's playing centrally and have a lot more freedom to move upfront.
This might be the only real benefit I see for him moving to PSG, to be able to be the main man in attack and have the team play around him instead of being shoved to the left, do a lot of work for the team while Messi was allowed to leave his flank and wander around midfield. So it will be interesting to see what he's capable of do when the team plays around him but I kind of wish PSG played in a better league now.
20 goals + 27 assists in 45 games isn't bad for a player that's not the main man for his team. His main job last season was to dribble through oppo defence and create for his teammates. He's also rarely take penalties.