Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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There's not a chance that PSG won't be putting the transfer fee through their books. That would be seriously taking the piss and I'll show my arse down the Arndale Centre in Burtons' window if I'm wrong.

These are the same guys that, in 2013, 'agreed' a 200m euro-a-year sponsorship deal, and even had the cheek to backdate it to the previous year. I wouldn't put it past them.
 
I know you're usually right on these things, so what I am missing? Top income tax in Spain is 45%, so if someone gave Neymar 222m euros wouldn't he have to pay 100m tax? So they would have to give him 300m+ euros for him to pay the 222m to Barca? Or would he be exempt from tax for some reason?
Not if they gave him a loan.

(Full disclosure - im not a tax specialist)
 
Call me Brazilian but damn right I'd join any club offering me 500k a week after tax. Football might be important but it's still a job.
When you're already at a great club, playing with the best players and playing the best matches and have already made a fortune? Then it's just greed.
 
Lets see how deep the probe from FFP/UEFA goes into this matter. If they find any discrepancies of which you can be sure there are they will have to punish them which will have long lasting effects on sugar daddy clubs and their football groups. It can although only happen if Barca can get other big clubs like Bayern/real/us/juve/Athletico/Arsenal/Dortmund etc on their side. Otherwise it will be a license to state funded clubs to do as they please and treat FFP as a joke. This deal will have large consequences for football either way. If UEFA clamp down on the sorces of the funds then you can epect market to be stable-r otherwise for every average joe you will have to pay 30-40 million.
 
I honestly believe all of this is leading to a possibility of Pep Guardiola going to PSG IF it doesn't work out at City in the next year or two. Just an opinion don't shoot me.

The money being spent on Neymar is amazing and I just get a feeling this could be his escape route should City fail to win honours.
 
When you're already at a great club, playing with the best players and playing the best matches and have already made a fortune? Then it's just greed.
I've done the same in my own working life. Granted it's not quite the same level.. I'm a shit load happier.

Also no one ever has "enough" money. Your concept of money changes depending on circumstance.
 
Add to the fact that as of now all Barca's players contracts are being renegotiated with massively increased Buy Out clauses.

I can imagine all of La Liga are doing the same. There's got to be some gems out there whose once high buy out clauses now look relatively cheap.
 
I honestly believe all of this is leading to a possibility of Pep Guardiola going to PSG IF it doesn't work out at City in the next year or two. Just an opinion don't shoot me.

The money being spent on Neymar is amazing and I just get a feeling this could be his escape route should City fail to win honours.

I could definitely see that. PSG are obsessed with big names.
 
Lets see how deep the probe from FFP/UEFA goes into this matter. If they find any discrepancies of which you can be sure there are they will have to punish them which will have long lasting effects on sugar daddy clubs and their football groups. It can although only happen if Barca can get other big clubs like Bayern/real/us/juve/Athletico/Arsenal/Dortmund etc on their side. Otherwise it will be a license to state funded clubs to do as they please and treat FFP as a joke. This deal will have large consequences for football either way. If UEFA clamp down on the sorces of the funds then you can epect market to be stable-r otherwise for every average joe you will have to pay 30-40 million.
1) FFP were never meant for clubs like City and PSG.

2) This transfer isn't different to what City have spent this year for example. In fact, City have spend this season more than PSG (and last season too, and the season before that too).

People have lost their shit because it was PSG getting a Barca top player, not the other way around. Elitists can go and feck themselves.
 
£500k a week after tax.

If PSG do flog some players to recoup some money, then fair enough. That makes the transfer seem a lot more legitimate. But I'm not sure. PSG's owners haven't always been the most astute when it comes to making their cash injections seem organic.

Isn't the tax rate like 70% over in France? That would work out at about £2 million a week before tax. Mental.
 
I honestly believe all of this is leading to a possibility of Pep Guardiola going to PSG IF it doesn't work out at City in the next year or two. Just an opinion don't shoot me.

The money being spent on Neymar is amazing and I just get a feeling this could be his escape route should City fail to win honours.

It's a logical deduction as Pep only signs for clubs where he can activate cheat mode.
 
When you're already at a great club, playing with the best players and playing the best matches and have already made a fortune? Then it's just greed.

Men are greedy by default, it's in our biological make up. It's easy to sit here and pontificate but if you are presented with that much money then it's hard to say no.

Of course, not all players are motivated solely by financial gains. Some will choose to forgo some of it for arbitrary reasons known only to themselves, but choosing more money doesn't make you any worse as a person.
 
Isn't the tax rate like 70% over in France? That would work out at about £2 million a week before tax. Mental.

I think they changed that a few years back.

Edit: From what I can see, the highest band is now 45%.
 
I honestly believe all of this is leading to a possibility of Pep Guardiola going to PSG IF it doesn't work out at City in the next year or two. Just an opinion don't shoot me.

The money being spent on Neymar is amazing and I just get a feeling this could be his escape route should City fail to win honours.

Mourinho's next job, I reckon.
 
Mourinho's next job, I reckon.
With my eye sight and speaking with the red tinted glasses I've just put on I'd like to disagree with you're statement and pray Mourinho is here for the long haul because he is the closest thing to Sir Alex. He's won 2 major trophies in his first year and he has us looking like we can challenge. I have faith that as long as Mourinho has success at Utd he won't leave.

If he doesn't then, well that's another story.
 
The fee Barça payed for Neymar was crazier than the fee PSG are paying now. He's worth the money and he'll prove it.
 
Post reads like pure hurt, and doesn't stand up to scrutiny, 2007-2017 we have more titles with a complimentary CL win and a couple CL finals.

Not that I have a liking for oil clubs or a particular dislike for Barcelona but let's try and be factual. Also, PSG could just sell a few players to be in accordance to FFP no?

It is factual. For the most part of the last decade (which is last 6 seasons), City have been better than United. I didn't say the whole decade, so not sure why would you take 2007-2017. The most part of the last decade is 2011/12 - 2016/2017. During this period, City have been the better team of Manchester.
 
Speaks about PSG as a club, bragging about their transfers while losing 6-1 on the field.


It is factual. For the most part of the last decade (which is last 6 seasons), City have been better than united. I didn't say the whole decade, so not sure why would you take 2007-2017. The most part of that decade is 2011/12 - 2016/2017. During this period, City have been the better team of Manchester.

You keep forgetting that you lost 4-0 on the field and that the draw was lost 6-5. I will make fun of PSG's fans for a long time but Barcelona can't really brag either.
 
It is factual. For the most part of the last decade (which is last 6 seasons), City have been better than united. I didn't say the whole decade, so not sure why would you take 2007-2017. The most part of that decade is 2011/12 - 2016/2017. During this period, City have been the better team of Manchester.
Sure, most part of the decade, conveniently excluding the part of the decade when Utd were massively more successful.

Your argument is laughable. We were only really worse than them the last 4 seasons (and last season we were arguably better winning 2 trophies to their 0). The decline in performance has been to our own mismanagement, not financial disadvantage. Your strenuous attempt to try linking the two together is feeble at best.
 
This is bullshit.

It's your post that is truly bullshit for many reasons. See below

The notion of fair competition exists in many examples of real life, it is what free-market economy is based on and why it has regulations to safeguard it from monopoly or oligopoly. It is embedded in the idea of sportsmanship as in you don't cheat by for example taking doping.
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No. A free-market economy is based on...freedom. The shareholder is free to invest via equity or leverage. PSG isn't a monopoly in itself...PSG/City aren't an oligopoly...

free market: an economic market or system in which prices are based on competition among private businesses and not controlled by a government.

PSG is a private business and a State has the right to invest. PSG version Qatar exists, no?
Free-market economy and "fair competition" are 2 different ideas even if inter-linked in a certain sense.

The whole idea of financial fair play is to adress the issue of financial doping. Which is essentially what PSG and other clubs like City are guilty off using. You simply get money from your owner which allows you to grow much faster and become much bigger than possible for any other club of equal size and resources. It is simply unfair. Now you people keep calling it investments, but it is not investing money, you inve'st money because you want to see a return on investment.

Leverage is a typical example of financial doping: common practice, no?
You are shocked to see shareholders who want to invest equity and develop a business plan. Are equity contributions forbidden in the business world? No.
A return on investment can be calculated over a long period of time. Investments in the brand development or in players can create directly and indirectly value in the long run.
Any asset has to be taken into account in the market value of a company.
So, they do expect a return on investment.... but not in a short period of time (30 days for example)

Now United owners, they are investers, they have already gotten much more money out of the club than they initially invested in it and the club is run like a business that has to make money and can only spend money that it has made. PSG and City are not run like that at all. If they were you could never afford transfers like that of Neymar or even most of the other transfers you did ever since you were bought by Qatar. Those rich owners they don't invest, they just want to own a football club and show the world how rich and powerfull they are by doing so and they are not expecting to see a financial return from that all. So it is not investing, it is financial doping. And the only thing that made PSG or City great is that they were the lucky ones to be purchased like winning a lottery.

City & PSG shareholders are long-term investors, like it or not. The 1st step is to develop the brand and win the Champions League. Then, they will be very probably more cautious.

So, why do you want to calculate a return on investment now while their strategy is to create value in the long run (Business plan of 30 years at least)?

It isn't forbidden for an investor to show off.

Once again, financial doping is a common practice in accounting.

Next to it being unfair for other clubs, it is also highly unsetteling for the transfermarket (yea inflation is natural but the way transfer prices are going is hyper inflation and also not sustainable) and it is simply a bad example of how to run a football club as it is clearly a non-sustainable businessmodel. So it makes perfect sense that to protect other clubs UEFA would have financial fair play rules only it seems they are not effective at all currently.

Ridiculous apocalyptic discourse TBH

The players have the right to change of clubs and there is the principle of freedom of contract.

Of course, the UEFA is free to regulate its own competitions as it wishes.
 
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When you're already at a great club, playing with the best players and playing the best matches and have already made a fortune? Then it's just greed.

And who cares if people think you're greedy when at the end of the contract you are sitting with £150m in your bank.
 
The fee Barça payed for Neymar was crazier than the fee PSG are paying now. He's worth the money and he'll prove it.

I agree with that.
When he arrived, it was a risky investment.
PSG on the other hand are buying a tried and tested player (at the highest level). He is reliable. Entering his peak. Has a huge commercial following.
£200M is about the right fee for him.
His wages are very high, though.
 
That contradicts the mentality of most successful people. Imagine asking Warren Buffett why he didn't stop at 1billion.

Buffett isn't driven by money, it is merely a by- product of his obsession.

In Neymar's case, it certainly seems that money is of paramount importance to him and his father.
 
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