The league may not be good quality but all the more he's likely to score about 60 goals a season and be noticed. If he's the main man at PSG, he's also more likely to score as many CL goals as Messi or Ronaldo. It isn't as though he's going to the Conference!
Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal
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The league may not be good quality but all the more he's likely to score about 60 goals a season and be noticed. If he's the main man at PSG, he's also more likely to score as many CL goals as Messi or Ronaldo. It isn't as though he's going to the Conference!
Not sure about that. In that case FFP or even accounting club finances is practically useless, since any club can declare 'in the books' that they pay 1 pound a year for 200 million years to make a marquee transfer. Something must be limiting this loophole.
@PedroMendez great questions, and I honestly would have wanted to ask you similar questions.I have no idea about what's going on with the latest lawsuit, or whether Neymar really have paid back his fines. But his move to Qatar is definitely a move from all the legal troubles that was about to be caught up with him, I believe. He will be protected at PSG by the Qatar bosses, as long as he manages to be their poster boy, which I believe he will manage gracefully. I would guess it is tough for the authorities in Spain and Brazil to catch him (- and specifically more difficult to catch his father), when he is surronded by the arms of Qatarian power.
And after all, Paris is a big mesmerising beautiful city, as he is going to a club with a big project, with the aim of establishing themselves as one of the big dogs in the Champions League - and he is suppose to be the last pussle that enables it.
I think these reasons in consideration - the qatarian power and protection, being the poster boy of a big project - makes the move lucrative for him and his father. Obviously, the Ligue 1 is not one of the top 3 leagues in Europe, and that is probably the only downside for his transfer, but he can probably live with it.And I guess Neymar Jr and Neymar Sr won't (or can't?) pull off the similar 'stunts' in future contract renewals, as they did with Barcelona. I am guessing that their new boss has too much power to be mess with.
But to be fair, Barcelona (Rosell&Bartomeu&co) brought this on themselves. The desperate need of getting Neymar - i.e. a 'Crack' - made them do some dirty side deals, and those controversial deals gave Neymar and his entourage too much power over the blaugranas, hence why he could get away with giving them a headache by each contract negotiation, as well as with this summer's transfer story. I believe - despite Neymar being one of the world's most wonderful football players - that this is a deal where all three parties are gaining. With Neymar's wages and insane sign on bonuses off from Barcelona, Barca will have room to breath and bring in 1-2 anticipated reinforcments to the midfield. Question is whether it is not too late to find a crack signing for this summer, I doubt there are any clubs left willing to negotiate about their star, now when the season is about to start.
And considering what the rich premier league clubs have done to the market (the transfer prices on Walker, Morata, Lukaku, Mendy, etc. ) any club could easily put the price tag of 120 - 150 million euros on their player, especially when they know Barca have just received 200 million euros.
Cheers. I don't really know anything about it. I have no problem with Barca and psg, but all of that is quite funny. The neymars are taking them to the cleaner and mess with them. He is a wonderful footballer but hopefully the tax authorities feck him. Slightly too greedy.
Barca should just stay put and buy 1-2 top stars next summer. This year the likes of Liverpool and juve would demand too much.
FFP is not about the cash flow statement, it's about the income statement. If you acquire a player for c. 200 mln pounds and give him a 5 year contract, in the income statement there will be no 200 mln loss, as it will go through your balance sheet and cash flow. In the income statement, you will reflect the cost of the transfer over the length of the contract as well as respective wage and bonus payments and one-off agent fees.
It would be the same if you were to spend 200m to, let's say, build a new factory and decided to finance it via upfront equity investment - in the income statement of the enterprise there will be no 200 m loss, much rather there would be depreciation costs in the future periods spread (usually evenly) over the useful life of your asset (I.e. Factory)
I'm sure they'd have liked to sign a top tier player for years and have no doubt been trying, but I still think it was a contributory factor. Especially when they threatened to do the same with Messi's release cause a few years back after Barca went after Thiago Silva.
But what if the length of the contract is ambiguous? Like these 4+1 and 4+2 deals? Can you offer a player a 5 year + optional 5 years contract to purposely spread payments over 10 years?
If not, does that mean PSG have to offer Neymar a 6-7 year contract to dodge FFP?
Santos want their share. Looks like it will be complicated a little. Paying a clause technically isnt buying a player or something along like that. So maybe Barce dont want to give them anything.
It is understood the total value of the deal is worth nearly £450m (€500m), which includes wages, bonuses and a buyout clause of £198m (€222m). Neymar has been offered a basic salary of £26.8m-a-year (€30m) after tax, around £515,000-a-week.
I think the numbers being thrown around for this deal are shocking, this deal cant be good for football.
I think the numbers being thrown around for this deal are shocking, this deal cant be good for football.
So will people goad Neymar when he most likely don't win the cl in the upcoming season? Think that's quite unfair but I can see people having a laugh and memes galore.
Clubs aren't allowed to make 200 million year contracts. It is transfer fee, wages, all other bonuses divided by the number of years in the contract.
Seeing this stuff from behind a keyboard always cracks me up
There's going to be massive pressure on him for sure. If/when PSG falls in the Champions League, the entire focus will be on him, just like when he plays for Brazil. Just imagine the press he will get if PSG loses to a "small" team at any point of the season.
It won't be unfair, it'll be well deserved IMHO. If he doesn't win the CL or worse if he doesn't perform well and they are knocked out in earlier stages than SF, he will get abused.
@PedroMendez great questions, and I honestly would have wanted to ask you similar questions.
And after all, Paris is a big mesmerising beautiful city, as he is going to a club with a big project, with the aim of establishing themselves as one of the big dogs in the Champions League - and he is suppose to be the last pussle that enables it.
I think these reasons in consideration - the qatarian power and protection, being the poster boy of a big project - makes the move lucrative for him and his father. Obviously, the Ligue 1 is not one of the top 3 leagues in Europe, and that is probably the only downside for his transfer, but he can probably live with it.
But to be fair, Barcelona (Rosell&Bartomeu&co) brought this on themselves. The desperate need of getting Neymar - i.e. a 'Crack' - made them do some dirty side deals, and those controversial deals gave Neymar and his entourage too much power over the blaugranas, hence why he could get away with giving them a headache by each contract negotiation, as well as with this summer's transfer story. I believe - despite Neymar being one of the world's most wonderful football players - that this is a deal where all three parties are gaining. With Neymar's wages and insane sign on bonuses off from Barcelona, Barca will have room to breath and bring in 1-2 anticipated reinforcments to the midfield. Question is whether it is not too late to find a crack signing for this summer, I doubt there are any clubs left willing to negotiate about their star, now when the season is about to start.
And considering what the rich premier league clubs have done to the market (the transfer prices on Walker, Morata, Lukaku, Mendy, etc. ) any club could easily put the price tag of 120 - 150 million euros on their player, especially when they know Barca have just received 200 million euros.
Good post
Can't agree. It's a team sport and for me adding Neymar doesn't make PSG the best team in the world. He however needs to perform well and will get castigated if he doesn't. Although what you say is going to happen, will.
All that is true. It will be a right circus.
It is fair because he is the one who is putting himself in that indirectly, by asking wages comparable to the best players in the world, he is opening up to huge expectations. You cannot ask to be the best paid players and not expect to get destroyed if you don't perform, for me it comes with the territory.
@PedroMendez Haha, indeed. I hope PSG ends up against Barca in CL, so we can sit back and enjoy the show with popcorn. He is actually currently my favourite player, and been so for some time, but he is definitely having extremley bad influence from his entourage and his father. I hope that influence doesn't shorten his career in the lime light. And I look forward to see him joining PSG, he has a bad habit of always having a great performance against Sevilla
@Ecstatic Wow, thanks mate Cheers.
I hope PSG ends up against Barca in CL, so we can sit back and enjoy the show with popcorn. He is actually currently my favourite player, and been so for some time, but he is definitely having extremley bad influence from his entourage and his father. I hope that influence doesn't shorten his career in the lime light. And I look forward to see him joining PSG, he has a bad habit of always having a great performance against Sevilla @Ecstatic Wow, thanks mate
Cheers.Funny how the title says Barcelona are giving him permission, as if he has their blessing, when they are doing anything they can (and can't) do to try and stop the move.
Oh I agree he has to perform. To what extent is different and certainly his performance alone may not be enough for Psg to be the European elite. And football in itself isn't that black and white and then he is no Messi either.
There are accounting standards that means transfers must be amortised over the length of the player's contract. They can't fiddle this as the auditors wouldn't sign off their accounts.
Anyone else think this 'he wants to be the main man / doesn't want to be in Messi's shadow' opinion is bollocks? Especially after seeing Messi's latest comments on the matter.
You don't really get more exposure than being at Barca, playing with the likes of Messi and Suarez, constantly competing for every trophy, playing el clasico's etc. Going to PSG would make him the main man in the team or even the league but the gulf in stature between PSG and Barca is incredible.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was all down to money. PSG have probably offered him, his dad and everyone on team Neymar a deal they simply can't resist or demand elsewhere.
You don't really get more exposure than being at Barca, playing with the likes of Messi and Suarez, constantly competing for every trophy, playing el clasico's etc. Going to PSG would make him the main man in the team or even the league but the gulf in stature between PSG and Barca is incredible.
I wouldn't be surprised if it was all down to money. PSG have probably offered him, his dad and everyone on team Neymar a deal they simply can't resist or demand elsewhere.
Or a strongly worded letter from UEFA. That'll show 'em!
What a move from PSG incredible ambition, fair play to them, they have pulled off a transfer that others can only dream of.
Youre actually misinformed there. Its during his whole contract, so they arent breaching anything.
We'll see, the whole thing about him leaving Barca is that he wants the same recognition as Messi, well he'll expected to perform just as well.
Where are you getting that from?
edit: apparently from the article. Not sure they have a case there. Santos will be owed a couple of % as solidarity fees.
Neymar was in Porto today where he successfully passed his medical.
Why did Neymar choose Barcelona in the first place if he hated Messi so much?
I don't think this is a bad move even from a footballing point of view. He's already won everything at Barca but now has a chance to build his own legacy at PSG. let's face it, Messi is just a much better player and he was never likely to be main man at Barca. Plus he get a feck load of money. Win win.
He doesn't hate Messi...
He moved to Barcelona because of Messi.
The money PSG are offering is too good to turn down and it lets him be the main man at a team which he wanted now.
Neymar's been very good for Barcelona, but you could argue his best form for the club has been when Messi wasn't in the team. Not that Messi was bringing him down or anything, but he thrives best as the main man. Just look at his form for Brazil.
He could have been the main man anywhere when moving from Santos.
I just don't buy that PSG are his dream club or that it's 100% about the money, just that it's preferable to Barcelona for the reasons you state.
That's not true too. He nearly joined Real too. He wanted to go to a top club in Europe and Barcelona paid the money. Nothing more.
am i the only one that is becoming more and more detached from football with it looking like there is no end to the madness of transfer fees.
think this move will signal the decline of neymar
think this move will signal the decline of neymar
An employee moves from one employer to another. Whole world goes mad. How did things go between said employer and former employee (and friend) Dani Alvez once he was no use to 'said' employer? Alvez learnt the harsh realities of employer/employee relations. you are useful until directors feel you are useful. Barcelona can be just as self serving as anyone so if Neymar is doing this for his own reasons/ambitions, then good on him.
Signing Neymar not only increases their chances but also reduces barca's. Don't think Bayern would be higher up the favorites list then them.
That's not according to me, but according to every bookie.
PSG have been signing star players for years and yet can't make even the SF of the CL. With or without Neymar, I don't see them as a bigger CL contender than Juve, Barca, Madrid or Bayern.
Then they aren't paying attention.
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