Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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lawliet354 said:
If PSG won CL he will instantly be hailed as a hero, you mention Ligue 1 all the time without mentioning the real final goal of PSG, also the most popular and the most prestigious competition of club footall which is to won CL

If he doesn't win it with PSG, yes we can say he waste his career, but if he does win in, it probably is the right call to move
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Signing star players alone just don't alone make one a ucl champion and contender automatically. It's much more than that. I see it the same way real Madrid were chasing ucl for a dacade and more even after getting glactico transfers under Perez until they fixed the real issues which were fixed by proper balance and a playing Philosophy which fit the strength of the players under zidane.

As far as I see it psg has a scatter gun approach to buying players and putting it together out on the pitch and hope for the best , until the right management arrives at the top and they keep this approach then dominance will be very difficult on very high level even with neymar considering they are approaching it as a top down approach than a bottom up approach.
 
lawliet354 said:
If PSG won CL he will instantly be hailed as a hero, you mention Ligue 1 all the time without mentioning the real final goal of PSG, also the most popular and the most prestigious competition of club footall which is to won CL

If he doesn't win it with PSG, yes we can say he waste his career, but if he does win in, it probably is the right call to move
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Yet PSG are only the 4th or 5th favourites for the CL (depending on which bookie). It's still far more likely that Barca or Bayern win it, or even that Real 3-peat.
 
spiriticon said:
Disagree with this I have to say. He is Brazilian football's poster boy at the moment and brands don't come much bigger than that.
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With this he is going head to head with Ronaldo and Messi and playing in ligue 1 makes it more difficult, apart from Brazil the world haven't moved on from their idols who are actually way above the level neymar is yet to reach and yet not faded away.
 
Raoul said:
PSG are just screwing themselves in all of this. Neymar will not get them much further than they are now and every time PSG want to buy a player the selling club will just put a 100-150% Neymar tax on them. Want to buy a player like Dele Alli ? Cough up 120m.
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I don't think their investment group cares about it , when you are state owned and drenched in oil money.
 
Cal? said:
Yet PSG are only the 4th or 5th favourites for the CL (depending on which bookie). It's still far more likely that Barca or Bayern win it, or even that Real 3-peat.
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They were 5th favourites probably, but Neymar takes them past Bayern and Atletico imo.
 
JPRouve said:
Which means that Neymar will be seen by Americans on a regular basis, that's good for him and his dreams of worldwide fame.
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He was already seen by Americans on a regular basis. He just moves from the Barca timeslot to the PSG timeslot on the same channel. His exposure will go down, because the number of viewers of PSG matches is a fraction of those watching Barca (212,539 vs 27,750 in the article quoted). We'll see how much of a draw he is by the change in viewing figures.

Inter Yer Nan said:
Thank god for Bein en Espanol which is what I watch almost exclusively. Never miss an Atletico game and the channel prioritizes La Liga first so don't miss tasty games involving Sociedad/Bilbao/Villarreal/Sevilla/Valencia etc;

Best $7.99 a month I ever spend.
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The old GOLtv crew from Miami has always been La Liga fanboys, which is great if you want to watch Spanish football.
 
beergod said:
He was already seen by Americans on a regular basis. He just moves from the Barca timeslot to the PSG timeslot on the same channel. His exposure will go down, because the number of viewers of PSG matches is a fraction of those watching Barca (212,539 vs 27,750 in the article quoted). We'll see how much of a draw he is by the change in viewing figures.
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I imagine that the numbers aren't comparable but you only need the opportunity, Neymar alone wouldn't be the difference maker but the league has a handful of pretty good managers and exciting young players. And in my opinion in the last two years the league has been as entertaining as the Bundesliga and better than Serie A.
 
ADJUDICATOR said:
They were 5th favourites probably, but Neymar takes them past Bayern and Atletico imo.
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Bayern? I think you're reading too much into their calamitous pre-season, most bookies have them around the same price as Barca and Real.

Juve or PSG 4th favourites.
 
beergod said:
He was already seen by Americans on a regular basis. He just moves from the Barca timeslot to the PSG timeslot on the same channel. His exposure will go down, because the number of viewers of PSG matches is a fraction of those watching Barca (212,539 vs 27,750 in the article quoted). We'll see how much of a draw he is by the change in viewing figures.


The old GOLtv crew from Miami has always been La Liga fanboys, which is great if you want to watch Spanish football.
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It's worth noting that Miami has very different demographics to the rest of the US.

It's a Spanish speaking city. Basically a Latin American city in the US.

The rest of the US is much more PL focused.
 
shamans said:
If he wins the champions league with PSG that also starts building up the french league.
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No.

Ligue 1 is a poor league in terms of quality, attendances, popularity and finances.

One sugar daddy team, no matter how good they are, is not going to increase interest. It is back to being a non-competition with Monaco selling their entire team.
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
I agree. Barca and Real will stand firm with their release clauses and English clubs won't necessarily need to sell and if they do, yes it will be for even higher taxes than English club tax. It will just mean the clubs who have the mega players (Kane, Pogba, Hazard for example) will need to stay on top of their players contracts and make sure they are long term. I.e - if Pogba only has 3 years left, let's extend it to a 5 year.
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Top players are at more of a premium than ever.

Expect the likes of Hazard and Pogba to expect drastic pay rises in their next negotiations.
 
shamans said:
It's an excellent decision. This will genuinely give him a chance of winning the player of the year. Neymar is a once in a generation level player. You need a team built around him. With Messi, you can't do that.
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Not A chance in a million years, he will never be considered the best in the world playing in crappy French league. The standard is shocking.

It's a huge step back from Barcelona in football terms, you'll barely even hear of Neymar anymore until PSG play an English team in the champions league.
 
KingMinger22 said:
It's worth noting that Miami has very different demographics to the rest of the US.

It's a Spanish speaking city. Basically a Latin American city in the US.

The rest of the US is much more PL focused.
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LA very Spanish speaking too and massive Mexican population that watches La Liga. But most non-Hispanics (and actually a large chunk of them) watch PL on regular basis. 99% of my friends here are Latino and 100% of them prefer PL much more.
 
Given the phenomenal price tag, can you imagine the spanner in the works it would be if the poor sod got a niggling injury which ruled him out for weeks?
Will they be wrapping him up in cotton wool and hold him back when PSG play midweek winter relegation fodder?
Picture a lottery winner driving his Ferrari to do the weekly shop at Lidl and getting rear ended in the car park.
I know that injuries are part of the game but the fee just accentuates everything. He is going to be a target too.
 
Cal? said:
Bayern? I think you're reading too much into their calamitous pre-season, most bookies have them around the same price as Barca and Real.

Juve or PSG 4th favourites.
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That's just my personal feeling. Bayern will be searching for balance in midfield with Alonso's departure, they'll miss Lahm at right-back and If Muller can't regain his confidence, Rodriguez can't counterbalance Robbery's waning influence on his own.

Juve won't be near PSG with Alves and Bonucci gone.
 
shamans said:
It's an excellent decision. This will genuinely give him a chance of winning the player of the year. Neymar is a once in a generation level player. You need a team built around him. With Messi, you can't do that.
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Some serious overrating of Neymar here.
Will be interesting if he is able to step out of Messi's shadow and become the world beater most think he is.
 
dannyrhinos89 said:
Not A chance in a million years, he will never be considered the best in the world playing in crappy French league. The standard is shocking.

It's a huge step back from Barcelona in football terms, you'll barely even hear of Neymar anymore until PSG play an English team in the champions league.
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I think he has to win a World Cup or at the very least have a great World Cup and win the CL to win it.
 
The thing I find amazing about this is that PSG didn't seem to bother trying to do a deal. It's like they wanted to pay the buyout just to show that they could.
 
ADJUDICATOR said:
That's just my personal feeling. Bayern will be searching for balance in midfield with Alonso's departure, they'll miss Lahm at right-back and If Muller can't regain his confidence, Rodriguez can't counterbalance Robbery's waning influence on his own.

Juve won't be near PSG with Alves and Bonucci gone.
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Personally I think Real are clear favourites, but just going by what the bookies make it.
 
Handsome Devil said:
Given the phenomenal price tag, can you imagine the spanner in the works it would be if the poor sod got a niggling injury which ruled him out for weeks?
Will they be wrapping him up in cotton wool and hold him back when PSG play midweek winter relegation fodder?
Picture a lottery winner driving his Ferrari to do the weekly shop at Lidl and getting rear ended in the car park.
I know that injuries are part of the game but the fee just accentuates everything. He is going to be a target too.
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Ligue 1 is full of incredible athletes who are clumsy players :lol:
 
Inter Yer Nan said:
I think he has to win a World Cup or at the very least have a great World Cup and win the CL to win it.
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It's going to be Portugal v Argentina in the WC final, and the Messi v Ronaldo thread will bring about the collapse of the internet.
 
MAME DIOUF 32 said:
The thing I find amazing about this is that PSG didn't seem to bother trying to do a deal. It's like they wanted to pay the buyout just to show that they could.
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They might well have done so and been told absolutely no way. I still think it was a reaction to them trying to buy Verrati though.
 
prtk0811 said:
Signing star players alone just don't alone make one a ucl champion and contender automatically. It's much more than that. I see it the same way real Madrid were chasing ucl for a dacade and more even after getting glactico transfers under Perez until they fixed the real issues which were fixed by proper balance and a playing Philosophy which fit the strength of the players under zidane.

As far as I see it psg has a scatter gun approach to buying players and putting it together out on the pitch and hope for the best , until the right management arrives at the top and they keep this approach then dominance will be very difficult on very high level even with neymar considering they are approaching it as a top down approach than a bottom up approach.
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Cal? said:
Yet PSG are only the 4th or 5th favourites for the CL (depending on which bookie). It's still far more likely that Barca or Bayern win it, or even that Real 3-peat.
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You missed my point though I never said with Neymar moving, Psg will be the most favorites to win CL, right now if Neymar won another CL with Barca, most likely he won't won Ballon D'or nor he will be regarded as best player in the world, which probably trigger this move in the very first place. If he can win it with PSG that you said is not favorites to win it, then surely he'll be regarded higher than he is right now and have the biggest chance to won Ballon D'or

If he only want to win more CL, then staying at Barca obviously is the most logical choice, but he seems not content with how he is doing right now, he wants to be the main man, which he won't be after Messi retires, probably not for another 3-4 years
 
lawliet354 said:
You missed my point though I never said with Neymar moving, Psg will be the most favorites to win CL, right now if Neymar won another CL with Barca, most likely he won't won Ballon D'or nor he will be regarded as best player in the world, which probably trigger this move in the very first place. If he can win it with PSG that you said is not favorites to win it, then surely he'll be regarded higher than he is right now and have the biggest chance to won Ballon D'or

If he only want to win more CL, then staying at Barca obviously is the most logical choice, but he seems not content with how he is doing right now, he wants to be the main man, which he won't be after Messi retires, probably not for another 3-4 years
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That's all very well, but the fact of the matter is, it's far more likely PSG go out in the QF or SF and he falls even further off the top of the game.
 
What is this nonsense I keep reading that the French Ligue 1 is obscure and nobody notices them? Monaco's players are selling like hotcakes, this Mbappe guy is about to leave for god knows how much, I never stopped hearing about Zlatan, Veratti, Cavani, Di Maria etc.

The world world is watching PSG and the French League.
 
2 Man Midfield said:
They might well have done so and been told absolutely no way. I still think it was a reaction to them trying to buy Verrati though.
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I don't think so, they've been looking every summer to land a superstar of football. Barca trying to sign Verratti when they didn't wanna listen to any offers sure pissed them off but they were after Neymar for longer than that. You don't fork out 220m just to take some stupid revenge.
 
Rams said:
How the feck can PSG pay 220M and still comply with the fair play rules? Surely they're going to operate at a massive loss for the next 3 seasons?
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Not necessarily. Their revenue is higher than City's, and City has spend around as much this season too, and no one is mentioning the breach of FFP for them.

Both will be fine, especially if they sell some players.
 
spiriticon said:
What is this nonsense I keep reading that the French Ligue 1 is obscure and nobody notices them? Monaco's players are selling like hotcakes, this Mbappe guy is about to leave for god knows how much, I never stopped hearing about Zlatan, Veratti, Cavani, Di Maria etc.

The world world is watching PSG and the French League.
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Still, the French Ligue 1 is piss poor.
 
@spiriticon
I dont think players being raided from their league is a great advert for French football now..
Look at all the players you can't watch in our league anymore!
 
kouroux said:
I don't think so, they've been looking every summer to land a superstar of football. Barca trying to sign Verratti when they didn't wanna listen to any offers sure pissed them off but they were after Neymar for longer than that. You don't fork out 220m just to take some stupid revenge.
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Suits qatars political ambitions for their world cup bid when all the gulf countries are uniting against them and isolating them.
 
Revan said:
Not necessarily. Their revenue is higher than City's, and City has spend around as much this season too, and no one is mentioning the breach of FFP for them.

Both will be fine, especially if they sell some players.
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City will be fine because they are not spending it all in one lump sum like PSG. PSG have to front it all up in one go and that's where the problem lies. -222 million over 1 year instead of -45 or so million over 5 years

I expect a fine and a transfer ban. But hey, 'Dream Bigger'
 
Cal? said:
That's all very well, but the fact of the matter is, it's far more likely PSG go out in the QF or SF and he falls even further off the top of the game.
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Yeah that's what makes it even crazier about this, right now the best thing to do is just to laugh at Barca :D
 
spiriticon said:
City will be fine because they are not spending it all in one lump sum like PSG. PSG have to front it all up in one go and that's where the problem lies. -222 million over 1 year instead of -45 or so million over 5 years

I expect a fine and a transfer ban. But hey, 'Dream Bigger'
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Nope. The transfer gets amortized for the duration of the contract, so despite that they pay all of it at once, in the books it will be ~45m over 5 years.

No bans, no breach of FFP.
 
KingMinger22 said:
He is going to earn more than three times what Rooney on.
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Well Rooney was a bench player who barely played.
Neymar will be the player who the coach will attempt to play in virtually every game.
So, if we are using Rooney's wages as a yard stick, Neymar is cheap.
 
spiriticon said:
City will be fine because they are not spending it all in one lump sum like PSG. PSG have to front it all up in one go and that's where the problem lies. -222 million over 1 year instead of -45 or so million over 5 years

I expect a fine and a transfer ban. But hey, 'Dream Bigger'
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They probably evaluated their worst case scenario, so probably a fine. A transfer ban would be very bad for them.
 
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