Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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Only this morning have I actually accepted that this is a thing, and not some typical contract fluff. Fair play to them. More than a club, ay.
 
You do if you are Neymar. It is for normal players that an opportunity to play alongside Messi is the best thing in the world. For 2 or 3 other players, however, the same factor (availability of Messi) is, ironically, a bad thing - as their aspirations go above "playing alongside best player in the world", they want to be the best player in the world themselves. This is not achievable in the same team with Messi - hence leaving Barcelona is 200% logical.

If you want to be the best player in the world, you either play in the Premier League or stay in La Liga. You're not winning any major career accolades by beating up Nancy, Caen, and Rennes. He's going for the money. If he wanted to truly stand out and be seen as the best in the world, he'd be joining us for less money.

believe it or not, its happening.
Btw your nick is really something else

I know my username sucks. I stupidly picked it when Moyes was our manager and I wanted to support him. I'm stuck with it now, and I guess I deserve it for being such an idiot.
 
How many matches anyone watch in the Bundasliga regularly ? And no it's not about who he's playing against while he's at Montpellier but about him playing in a small club with zero pressure on him, and it's clear too because the same sentence about his ability to do it in a big club is said even on players from small EPL clubs and they're playing against the best teams in the league during the season so no, this example isn't valid.

Err.. you're comparing based on the Caf ? There're fans here for Barca and Madrid you know and you're one of them so it's normal. If we argued that PSG still lack the same popularity as Barca and Madrid so isn't signing a player like Neymar is exactly the way to push their popularity more and more ? So we go on with your statement that many watches La Liga weak matches and the opposite not applied on French league then signing world class players as Naymar is exactly the way to solve this or what's your suggestions to push their popularity ?

Neymar would have never become a legend either while in Barca so he's not losing much I believe. As I said in a previous post Barca success = Messi gaining all the prizes it's inevitable. The same for Madrid where if they won the CL or the league it means automatically that Ronaldo will get the Ballon D'Or whatever the other players did it won't matter. It's near to impossible to become a legend in Madrid and Barca while Messi and Ronaldo are there. They'll get all the prizes while the other teammates just happily did their roles and the most they'll get is praise from Pundits.

Neymar didn't lose anything. He's getting loads of money plus he's having a chance to become the man who made PSG a CL contender and maybe a European champion. It's a gamble worth taking from his pov.

Neymar will turn more attention to Franch league and PSG making them more attractive destination and give them added benefit marketing wise. But his popularity and status will massively depend on the fact will he deliver CL success. He is definitely losing some of the exposure that he had in Barcelona. For example, if PSG goes out in 1/8 final of CL his season will be measured mostly by it. In Barcelona, he still had that constant fight with Real for La Liga and El Clasico has probably biggest figures when we talk about tv-coverage.

I don't know with which desire he has been driven in this case, it smells more about money as Messi is more likely to step down soon and he is about to hit his peak. Anyway, I think that his push for Ballon d'Or and his position as a number 1 player would be easier to achieve from Barcelona if that's what drives him. If he succeeds in that while playing for PSG than fair play and hats off to him.

Also, he didn't win Ballon d'Or while playing for Barcelona because Messi and Ronaldo were quite simply better in every season while he was playing in Barcelona. It isn't because it automatically goes to one of them. For example, if he led Barcelona to CL title with this year Ronaldo goal numbers and influence in knockout stages he would have won it.
 
Why would you think so? The truth of the matter is no one outside of France really gives a shit about Ligue 1. Even our Ligue 1 thread here has the least views and comments as compared to the La Liga, Bundesliga, Seria A. I think the EPL is still the most popular in Africa. You would see reports of some Man Utd fan in Nigeria or Kenya killing himself or his friend because they mock them cause Utd lost so people there must have followed our league religiously.

Because of the amount of African players in Ligue 1. Of course it wouldn't be the most popular league in Africa but it must gain some attention.
 
Going off your previous post, I'm not sure you do mate. You implied that the £198 million transfer fee would hit PSG's books in one go but that is not how amortisation works. The transfer fee will be amortised over the length of Neymar's contract so if he signs a 6 year deal, the cost will be £198 million divided by 6 meaning an extra cost to PSG's accounts of £33 million per year. Of course, wages then need to be factored in and with all sorts of rumours kicking about regarding what he will earn it's difficult to estimate what that will be, but let's assume he will be paid a very generous £600,000 per week before tax. That's £31.2 million per year so the total amortised cost of transfer fee and wages to PSG will be £64.2 million per year. All of a sudden, and despite the eye-watering headline figures, the cost doesn't seem quite so outrageous. And I'm sure PSG will probably move a couple of players on to recoup some of the outlay which in real terms will offset a portion of the extra amortised cost of the Neymar deal. Now if Neymar helps them win the Champions League, all of a sudden their global profile will rocket and that in itself could attract all kinds of extra revenue over the coming years.

This article https://www.theguardian.com/football/the-set-pieces-blog/2016/aug/24/transfer-window-market-myths is about transfers and some of the common misconceptions surrounding them, including an explanation of how amortisation works.
I'm not accountant but @M18CTID has provided a great explanation. The UEFA is likely to focus on the P&L instead of the cash-flow statement.

P&L

Annual Revenues
less Annual Opex
= EBITDA
less annual D&A
= EBIT
less financial expenses
less tax
= Net income
Fair enough, I misunderstood after reading http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/40690701 and thinking it referred to literal payments with the selling club's permission, I guess it makes sense though if you make payment for something that will cover you for a number of years that you wouldn't put it all on the first year...

Still, it's all relative, they'll have "amortised" all their other players and it'll take a substantial amount of selling to balance out Neymar. Don't forget the €40m fee going straight to his dad from PSG, that it's more widely said to be a 5 year contract, that some estimates for wages go up to nearly £600k per week after tax, and that should PSG win the Champions League there'll be even bigger outcry about Qatar's immorality which isn't going to be attractive to sponsors (outside of Qatar).
 

PSG general manager allegedly at the Spanish LFP HQ, probably for the release clause.
 
With this happening now I can see every half wit player having enormous release clauses if they don't already. The likes of Messi will have release clauses double what it is now. Makes we wonder if Ed was smart enough to put a high release clause on Pogba.
 
With this happening now I can see every half wit player having enormous release clauses if they don't already. The likes of Messi will have release clauses double what it is now. Makes we wonder if Ed was smart enough to put a high release clause on Pogba.

Why would he put a release clause at all? Buyout clauses are only mandatory in Spain.
 
With this happening now I can see every half wit player having enormous release clauses if they don't already. The likes of Messi will have release clauses double what it is now. Makes we wonder if Ed was smart enough to put a high release clause on Pogba.

Release clauses are required in Spain. It's not the case in England, and I highly doubt Pogba has any release clause in his contract.
 
I don't fancy being the player responsible for injuring Neymar at any point in the near future.

Each leg costs £99m. Bonkers.
 
If you want to be the best player in the world, you either play in the Premier League or stay in La Liga. You're not winning any major career accolades by beating up Nancy, Caen, and Rennes. He's going for the money. If he wanted to truly stand out and be seen as the best in the world, he'd be joining us for less money.

If they win the CL and he plays the starring role, he will win the ballon d'or.
 
What a strange transfer from Neymar's standpoint. He's going to play against Toulose, Guingamp, Rennes...

As opposed to Eibar, Levante, Getafe and Girona...

I reckon he's going to be an unqualified success both on and off the pitch for PSG. He's easily in the top 10 (if not 5) players in the world right now and probably the most marketable football player on the planet. What this means to Neymar's standing in the game? He probably doesn't give a sh*t, he's already won everything he can at Barca and now PSG are going to pay him considerably more than he'd get anywhere else. There are basically no downsides to this move from his perspective.
 
Barca fans probably feel how we felt losing Ronaldo, similar age, losing them with their best years ahead and for a world record transfer. The difference being they can take consolation as they still have messi, whereas we were left with Rooney.
 
Neymar will turn more attention to Franch league and PSG making them more attractive destination and give them added benefit marketing wise. But his popularity and status will massively depend on the fact will he deliver CL success. He is definitely losing some of the exposure that he had in Barcelona. For example, if PSG goes out in 1/8 final of CL his season will be measured mostly by it. In Barcelona, he still had that constant fight with Real for La Liga and El Clasico has probably biggest figures when we talk about tv-coverage.

I don't know with which desire he has been driven in this case, it smells more about money as Messi is more likely to step down soon and he is about to hit his peak. Anyway, I think that his push for Ballon d'Or and his position as a number 1 player would be easier to achieve from Barcelona if that's what drives him. If he succeeds in that while playing for PSG than fair play and hats off to him.

Also, he didn't win Ballon d'Or while playing for Barcelona because Messi and Ronaldo were quite simply better in every season while he was playing in Barcelona. It isn't because it automatically goes to one of them. For example, if he led Barcelona to CL title with this year Ronaldo goal numbers and influence in knockout stages he would have won it.

Neymar will turn more attention to the French league? I'm sorry, but it takes a whole lot more than just one transfer to up a league. As it stands, most casual fans I know watch a lot of Premier League footbal because it's almost a derby per week there (I checked last season and there were only 5-6 weeks the whole season where you didn't have at least a derby in Premier League; not only that, but you sometimes had 2-3 derbies in the same round), and Barca and Madrid matches.

Yes, even Barca vs Leganes. Barca and Madrid play the best and the most exciting football, so who is interested to see the best the sport has to offer, watch them. Premier League is also earlier on Saturday and Sunday, they occasionally have a top game as early as 14:30 in my country. So a football fan can watch EPL in the afternoon and then tune on to see Barca and Madrid battling it out in Spain later in the evening.

I'm sorry, but people won't watch PSG that much, with Neymar or without him. It's a money and a 'better to be first in a village than 2nd in Rome' type of move. Neymar and his dad love money first, and attention 2nd. He will get both at PSG. At Barca, there's no way you're getting more attention from the fans and from the media than the team's best player and arguably the best footballer of all time. You either accept that you're not as good as him, or you go to a team that doesn't have a Messi. PSG is a great move for him. He is by far the team's best player, without a Messi, or even a Suarez to take the spotlight, and on top of that, the Qataris will give him tons of money to him and his dad.

Neymar knows Messi will probably be greater and better than him even at 35.
 
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Why would you think so? The truth of the matter is no one outside of France really gives a shit about Ligue 1. Even our Ligue 1 thread here has the least views and comments as compared to the La Liga, Bundesliga, Seria A. I think the EPL is still the most popular in Africa. You would see reports of some Man Utd fan in Nigeria or Kenya killing himself or his friend because they mock them cause Utd lost so people there must have followed our league religiously.
I lived 15 years in Africa and I can guarantee that Marseille was hugely popular. People remember Abedi Pele, Chris Pele, Basile Boli... same with PSG players like Rai etc... I don't think nobody gives a shit. In French speaking countries, they do give a shit about Ligue 1.
 
Barca fans probably feel how we felt losing Ronaldo, similar age, losing them with their best years ahead and for a world record transfer. The difference being they can take consolation as they still have messi, whereas we were left with Rooney.

I think that's a bit unfair. Rooney was great at this time and he had his arguably best season with us the year after Ronaldo left.
 
I think that's a bit unfair. Rooney was great at this time and he had his arguably best season with us the year after Ronaldo left.
Indeed. Rooney had one of his best season playing as the main striker with Valencia giving the services to him. Such revisionism from so called fans.

I know he deteriorated rapidly afterwards, not to mention the drama of transfer requests, but in his earlier years he was genuinely a great player.
 
when was the last time a player in the French league win the Balon D'or?
Papin in 1991. Weah won it in 1995 at AC Milan but mainly on the back of his great 94/95 season at PSG.
 
Barca fans probably feel how we felt losing Ronaldo, similar age, losing them with their best years ahead and for a world record transfer. The difference being they can take consolation as they still have messi, whereas we were left with Rooney.
I think its more like how United felt when Rooney said he wants to go to City.

Shocked at a part insane, part offensive request from the twat in the team.
 
As for what matches fans watch I can only refer to how a Swedish tv-channel bought the rights to Ligue1 just because Zlatan went to PSG. A lot of people in Sweden started watching PSG just because of Zlatan, and not just when they played the top teams. My dad probably couldn't have named three teams in Ligue1 before Zlatan went to PSG and he watched every single match they played after the fact and knew more about their team than I did.
I also have a lot of friends who hate United more than anything in world football and they all started watching all our matches just because they wanted to see Zlatan. I've lost count on how many times I've heard someone say that they want Zlatan to do great and score goals but still have United lose the match. So one player can make a huge difference.

With Neymar being a much bigger name than Zlatan globally I don't see why the same thing wouldn't happen with him, only on a much larger scale. Half of Brazil is probably going to start supporting PSG because of this, and if the reports of his status in the Middle east/Asia are accurate then he's going to bring a ton of fans with him and raise PSG's global popularity more than they could dream of.
 
I'm not accountant but @M18CTID has provided a great explanation. The UEFA is likely to focus on the P&L instead of the cash-flow statement.

P&L

Annual Revenues
less Annual Opex
= EBITDA
less annual D&A
= EBIT
less financial expenses
less tax
= Net income
I'm an accountant and you are right.

When the casflow takes place is irrelevant. Could be over 1 year or 50 years.
 
Neymar will turn more attention to the French league? I'm sorry, but it takes a whole lot more than just one transfer to up a league. As it stands most casual fans I know, watch a lot of EPL because it's almost a derby per week there (I checked last season and there were only 5-6 weeks the whole season where you didn't had at least a derby in Premier League), and Barca and Madrid matches. Yes, even Barca vs Leganes. Barca and Madrid play the best football, so who is interested to see some exciting football, watch them. Premier League is also earlier on Saturday and Sunday. So a football fan can watch EPL in the afternoon and then tune on to see Barca and Madrid battling it out in Spain.

I'm sorry, but people won't watch PSG that much, with Neymar or without him. It's a money and a 'better to be first in a village than 2nd in Rome' type of move. Neymar and his dad love money first, and attention 2nd. He will get both at PSG. At Barca, there's no way you're getting more attention from the fans and from the media than the team's best player and arguably the best footballer of all time.

Yeah, truth to be told, I was thinking more about attention to PSG as a club. French league would get some benefit from that point and in terms that more people would like to see or at least will pay attention how he is doing in PSG shirt. He will certainly get that at the start, how will it go further it depends on his performances and will it be on a spectacular level especially in CL.

You can't deny this move will get more exposure on PSG. It's by far the biggest transfer in world football.
 
As opposed to Eibar, Levante, Getafe and Girona...

I reckon he's going to be an unqualified success both on and off the pitch for PSG. He's easily in the top 10 (if not 5) players in the world right now and probably the most marketable football player on the planet. What this means to Neymar's standing in the game? He probably doesn't give a sh*t, he's already won everything he can at Barca and now PSG are going to pay him considerably more than he'd get anywhere else. There are basically no downsides to this move from his perspective.

You have these smaller teams in every league. But in France, there are, what, 4 "big" clubs? Monaco, PSG, Marseille, Lyon...
There's a reason nobody gives a crap about the French league.

I agree that from the financial perspective it probably makes sense for him.
 
The French league will not take off during Neymar's time. I think PSG owners power and dominance will likely deter serious billionaires coming into town to at least add more competition. There's always the premier league for that. Sure, Neymar is entering his prime and is one of the modern greats, but that's not nearly enough. The Premier League brand is too powerful and La Liga has enough tradition and history to always be miles ahead in terms of interest.

From a club footballing point of view Neymar has essentially thrown away his prime club years but perhaps to him and his dad more money is much more important (which is very normal) and what he accomplishes with Brazil probably means more. I think being a Brazil legend probably trumps being a Barca or European club legend by about a million miles. Some players (Messi, Cristiano and damn near every top Euro player) want both, some couldn't give a toss.
 
Barcelona fans must be feeling the same now when United sold Ronaldo to Madrid albeit different circumstances, but you get the drift

PSG fans must be absolutely creaming themselves now over Neymar. I know i would if i am one
 
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