Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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My mistake. Just $600m and a couple of Swiss chalets then; practically a bargain.

And it has nothing to do with the change of strategy. He bought Monaco just before FFP and he quickly realized that Monaco weren't in a position to find enough sponsors to make an expensive team sustainable, so they decided to become a Porto on steroids.
 
I'm pretty sure that release clauses in contracts are part of Spanish contract law. FFP has nothing to do with it.
not sure about that - there may be expected due diligence on the club receiving funds to ensure the source of them and that they are allowed to receive said funds - an obvious example would be laundered money - or money coming from an entity not legally allowed to trade in your jurisdiction (eg sanction), however I'm not a lawyer and I dont know if part of the due dilligence for a football club would not also be to ensure any deal complied with FIFA / UEFA rules as well?

My gut feel is they probably couldnt stop him buying himself out of the contract but perhaps UEFA could stop him playing for PSG if they were not satisfied with the funds... that said I thought the plan was that Quatar were going to buy him out of his contract to free him up as a world cup ambasidor... then he was essentially going to sign on a free for PSG? - perhaps not but Im sure I read that somewhere - again this may bring in 3rd party ownership rules (unless neymar owns his own registration?)

Anyway in my experience is lawyers get involved they can typically find some argument to spin out (and delay things plus of course make a chunk of cash for themselves in the process)
 
La Liga claiming to be the staunch defenders of FFP?

AHAHAHAHAHHAAAHAHAHAHAHA.....AHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
 
I think it is wrong to question Neymar's desire, he is a pro and goes where he can maximise his $$$. If Paris is the new China, good for him, Ligue 1 is more interesting than most of you are making and less gruelling for sure. Win win situation, apart of Barca's sense of entitlement. Not that they can complain much, though, €222m are enough to land them two super players.
 
Isn't this the whole point of having a release clause? A team stumps up the cash and the player is transferred if they want to...

Poor Barca. They should have set the figure to somewhere closer to Ronaldo's €1bn clause if they really wanted to avoid this. It seems they underestimated their competitors financially.
 
And it has nothing to do with the change of strategy. He bought Monaco just before FFP and he quickly realized that Monaco weren't in a position to find enough sponsors to make an expensive team sustainable, so they decided to become a Porto on steroids.
I wasn't questioning any strategies. Just (incorrectly) replying to the question about the owner losing his money.
 
And it has nothing to do with the change of strategy. He bought Monaco just before FFP and he quickly realized that Monaco weren't in a position to find enough sponsors to make an expensive team sustainable, so they decided to become a Porto on steroids.
So Monaco would have been operated more like PSG if it weren't for FFP? I didn't know that FFP had an impact there, interesting.
 
Interesting test case for City, who will no doubt be watching closely. If PSG are able to get this one over the line, suddenly the big stars in La Liga become ripe for the picking by the two oil-rich clubs.
 
A boy from Brazil who probably had dreams from a young age to play for Barca or Madrid leaves to go to a club that he certainly wouldn't of known much about until 7/8 years ago basically for more money

Nonsense. Ronaldinho, a childhood idol of every single current-generation Brazilian footballer, played for PSG ~15 years ago. Neymar and his contemporaries would've known about PSG a long time ago, not just since oil money. I'm not suggesting that money isn't a factor here, but PSG aren't just a two-bob outfit unknown outside of Europe.
 
Isn't this the whole point of having a release clause? A team stumps up the cash and the player is transferred if they want to...

Poor Barca. They should have set the figure to somewhere closer to Ronaldo's €1bn clause if they really wanted to avoid this. It seems they underestimated their competitors financially.

Maybe Neymar would only agree to sign with a lower release clause, with his reps foreseeing the potential for a deal like this and another huge pay day after Barca?

Either way, La Liga can still block it if they have reasonable grounds to refuse to accept the money. I doubt Neymar's peeps saw this part coming today. ;)
 
Interesting test case for City, who will no doubt be watching closely. If PSG are able to get this one over the line, suddenly the big stars in La Liga become ripe for the picking by the two oil-rich clubs.
No, I don't think they have done that much to get so much attention. On the other hand I am glad English clubs don't add release clauses.
 
Isn't this the whole point of having a release clause? A team stumps up the cash and the player is transferred if they want to...

Poor Barca. They should have set the figure to somewhere closer to Ronaldo's €1bn clause if they really wanted to avoid this. It seems they underestimated their competitors financially.

Exactly. Barcelona's naivety is what is in question here, not PSG's extravagance or Neymar's perceived greed.

La Liga suddenly becoming bastions of financial integrity in football is the most laughable aspect of all this. Truly astounding lack of self-awareness.
 
I wasn't questioning any strategies. Just (incorrectly) replying to the question about the owner losing his money.

It was just a precision, since the conversation was about Monaco's owner being rich and him changing plans. Without FFP Monaco would have ruined football.:)
 
This isn't about football. This is about the ego of the PSG owners, the greed of Neymars agents and the failure of all footballing authorities to govern the sport for the benefit of all footballers and fans.

I hope this goes through and PSG are kicked out of CL for breaking FFP rules.
 
La Liga loosing one of their biggest marketing names is the main reason why they are trying to stop the transfer, not FFP or anything else. Their main market outside of Spain is South America so it's extremely important for them to have the biggest South American names in La Liga to keep up the interest in the League.
 
not sure about that - there may be expected due diligence on the club receiving funds to ensure the source of them and that they are allowed to receive said funds - an obvious example would be laundered money - or money coming from an entity not legally allowed to trade in your jurisdiction (eg sanction), however I'm not a lawyer and I dont know if part of the due dilligence for a football club would not also be to ensure any deal complied with FIFA / UEFA rules as well?

My gut feel is they probably couldnt stop him buying himself out of the contract but perhaps UEFA could stop him playing for PSG if they were not satisfied with the funds... that said I thought the plan was that Quatar were going to buy him out of his contract to free him up as a world cup ambasidor... then he was essentially going to sign on a free for PSG? - perhaps not but Im sure I read that somewhere - again this may bring in 3rd party ownership rules (unless neymar owns his own registration?)

Anyway in my experience is lawyers get involved they can typically find some argument to spin out (and delay things plus of course make a chunk of cash for themselves in the process)

Yes, but I very highly doubt that UEFA rules come under the same scope as money laundering. In fact, the last I heard the reason FFP has been basically useless is because clubs like City and PSG were threatening taking UEFA to court over it if they threw down too harsh punishments because their lawyers were saying it wouldn't stand up in a European court.

I suspect where this becomes difficult is with registration. I'm certain that La Liga have no right to stop Neymar buying himself out of his contract, and if they tried I imagine Spanish workers rights groups would go to town, but they might be able to legitimately argue that they don't have to transfer his registration to another FA. Not sure how that would play out.

I feel like if UEFA did stick their oar in then you're right, Neymar not being allowed to play for PSG seems a possible outcome, but I can't see how they will force him to stay at Barca.
 

:lol: What the feck does this have to do with La Liga seriously? Just shut up and accept their money like a good little boy, La Liga
 
Isn't it Neymar buying out his clause? Legally PSG aren't even involved so this is just embarassing
 

Uefa or La Liga in that matter cannot stop the transfer until the deal is done. Sports lawyer been on sky sports and is legit. His transfer stories are nonsense but his legal views on the money.
 
not sure about that - there may be expected due diligence on the club receiving funds to ensure the source of them and that they are allowed to receive said funds - an obvious example would be laundered money - or money coming from an entity not legally allowed to trade in your jurisdiction (eg sanction), however I'm not a lawyer and I dont know if part of the due dilligence for a football club would not also be to ensure any deal complied with FIFA / UEFA rules as well?

My gut feel is they probably couldnt stop him buying himself out of the contract but perhaps UEFA could stop him playing for PSG if they were not satisfied with the funds... that said I thought the plan was that Quatar were going to buy him out of his contract to free him up as a world cup ambasidor... then he was essentially going to sign on a free for PSG? - perhaps not but Im sure I read that somewhere - again this may bring in 3rd party ownership rules (unless neymar owns his own registration?)

Anyway in my experience is lawyers get involved they can typically find some argument to spin out (and delay things plus of course make a chunk of cash for themselves in the process)

Two federations can do that the FFF and the FIFA(and the french LFP) , the UEFA can ask both federation to investigate but the UEFA can only prevent Neymar from playing in european competitions.
 
We're damn lucky to not chase Pogba this transfer window and under current prices.

Now good luck to Barcelona trying to compensate Neymar with that in mind. I think they would certainly go after Coutinho, maybe Dembele, but the question is will they be ready to pay another ridiculous amount.
 

:lol: What the feck does this have to do with La Liga seriously? Just shut up and accept their money like a good little boy, La Liga

:lol: I really want them to refuse the transfer and go to court. Would be funny as hell if it gets dragged out, only to be decided in favour of PSG without leaving enough time for Barca to bring in any replacement.
 
I think it is wrong to question Neymar's desire, he is a pro and goes where he can maximise his $$$. If Paris is the new China, good for him, Ligue 1 is more interesting than most of you are making and less gruelling for sure. Win win situation, apart of Barca's sense of entitlement. Not that they can complain much, though, €222m are enough to land them two super players.
You're living in the past my friend, as of today super players cost 200m, new benchmark has been set
 
Exactly. Barcelona's naivety is what is in question here, not PSG's extravagance or Neymar's perceived greed.

La Liga suddenly becoming bastions of financial integrity in football is the most laughable aspect of all this. Truly astounding lack of self-awareness.

They never had any to begin with.
 
This isn't about football. This is about the ego of the PSG owners, the greed of Neymars agents and the failure of all footballing authorities to govern the sport for the benefit of all footballers and fans.

I hope this goes through and PSG are kicked out of CL for breaking FFP rules.

Its' well known footballers are greedy. But regardless, Al-Khelaifi has an ambition to win the CL and so is doing whatever it takes. I can't blame the owners for having ambition. Even we made some 150 mil bids for Neymar in the past.

Good signing for PSG, automatically takes them up a level. Surely Emery can do something of worth in the CL with the talent he has at his disposal now.
 
Can't we just approach Them with a smile and €120m seeing as he wants leave and they obviously don't want to sell to PSG.
 
I still had some hope he will extend his contract at the end and all this will die but man, it's real now.

Still can't believe it, though. Surprise of the market not just this year but in the last decade at least.
 
Barca went in like a bully for Veratti,tho to twist PSG`s arm, expecting them just to take it like they are used to. PSG turned, slap the shit out of them and now they close to take Neymar from them, bully Barca run off crying to their mommy(La Liga), acting like victim :lol: . I am fecking loving it, can put my opinion about PSG on side for this one.
 
So Monaco would have been operated more like PSG if it weren't for FFP? I didn't know that FFP had an impact there, interesting.

It's actually worse than that, the UEFA retained Monaco's prize money from 2014/2015 until they found an agreement then they took 15m as escrow. For a club like Monaco that's a lot of money and it's something they do all around Europe.
 
This isn't about football. This is about the ego of the PSG owners, the greed of Neymars agents and the failure of all footballing authorities to govern the sport for the benefit of all footballers and fans.

I hope this goes through and PSG are kicked out of CL for breaking FFP rules.

I'm sorry. I don't see the difference between gas money from Russia and Qatar...

Chelsea would have destroyed the concept of FFP 15 years ago.
 
But that assumes his value is judged by his worth to PSG as a player

In reality he is going to be the face of the 2022 world cup and used by a country to try and diversify their entire economy beyond oil into more of a destination / hub... and that is worth billions to the Qatari's so is he worth quarter of a billion - to them almost certainly!!! and I wouldn't be surprised to see the same tactic repeated over the next four years as they look for other people (likely to be the top players in 2022) to become part of their world cup brand
222 million for the face of 2022 world cup.

It's written in the stars.
 
Fair enough, crazy free, surprised Woody didn't try it, he would loved this type of transfer.

Also don't get all the Barca hate here they are a fantastic club with a great history.
They are arrogant beyond belief, they a swan around like their shit doesnt smell with all that "More than a club" bollocks, they blatantly tap up players in public and cry like bitches when someone does it to them. Horrid club mate.
 
Can we break the bank for Neymar ? Lol.

Once and for all. Neymar is 25. We could have him for 7-10 years. Its definitely not a bad proposition. Just take out the loan or something lol
 
The latest BBC article is citing a Guardian reporting saying that Neymar is being offered a tax-free wage of £650,000 a week. How is that possible?
 
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