Neymar joins PSG on a five year deal

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PSG would face sanctions for that. No doubt about it. They'd be taking a risk of a transfer ban or being taken out of the CL or something along those lines.
 
LuisNaniencia said:
He would get battered in the premier league. Refs aren't as kind.
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JPRouve said:
He was playing for a far better team, he was more protected by referees but not more comfortable per se. The real difference between the PL and other leagues is the refereeing and the never-say-die mentality that the bottom half sometimes have, it means that English teams will have to push for a little bit longer than italian, french or spanish top clubs and that's less true in Germany.
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Funnily enough thats pretty much what my original post was saying!
 
Summit said:
Surely FFP would be an issue here?
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As I posted above, I expect they would allow Verratti to leave for Barca as part of the deal (likely for between £80-£100m) and then they would sell either Di Maria, or Moura or both.
 
Revan said:
Officially yes. It doesn't exist for the rich clubs though. Just look at City's or Milan's spending. Milan has 214m on revenue, and already spent as much on transfers this summer.
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City made a surplus last year, I know that. Not sure what the situation would be this season but they didn't break FFP last season anyway. FFP still exists. Don't know where this idea that it doesn't came from.
 
Very sure even we will be ready to pay it if neymar wants to come that is.
 
Classical Mechanic said:
It was meant to target sugar daddy clubs originally and even sanctioned PSG & City in the short time it did what it was designed to do. Platini himself even coined the term 'financial doping' to describe it. They were sanctioned for having overvalued in house sponsorship deal to fluff their figures. FFP was Platini's big idea when foreign investment was largely concentrated in the Premier League but once PSG were bought and paying his son a 6 figure yearly salary he seemed to have a change of heart on the mechanics of it, which meant those clubs could spend what they liked. Quelle surprise.
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No it wasn't, it was/is meant to target smaller clubs in order to avoid bankruptcy. Sugar daddies were a collateral damage because when they only increase the wage bill without investing in the assets they put the club at risk if they decide to not pay the bills like Malaga, that's why Sugar Daddies can spend whatever they want in infrastructures but will have problems if they increase the wage bill too much.
 
Scholsey2004 said:
Of PSG sign neymar for 200m we'll probably sign nathan redmond for 210m, to maintain the status quo. Nobody should be seen to be as recklessly frivolous as us!
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"Yea but he would improve us, Jose wants him, who else is better and available in the market?"
 
LuisNaniencia said:
Funnily enough thats pretty much what my original post was saying!
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But he has been battered everywhere and he still is. He isn't more comfortable, he just gets a free kick when he is battered, same thing with Neymar, Mess and Ronaldo.
 
van der star said:
Exactly. We should be looking at a young, English winger, who has experience in the PL. Throw 90m at Arsenal for Oxlade-Chamberlain.
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You laugh but I actually wouldn't mind Chamberlain. Obviously not for anything like that price but for about £30-40m I'd take him
 
Would doubt we could pay that this summer after Romelu.

If we were looking for that 'type' of signing, then I'd be happy enough if we paid half that for Dembele, which is what Barcelona would do with the money.
 
Rozay said:
Would doubt we could pay that this summer after Romelu.

If we were looking for that 'type' of signing, then I'd be happy enough if we paid half that for Dembele, which is what Barcelona would do with the money.
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From a purely pragmatic perspective, I'd agree. However, if it becomes clear Neymar is available, there is NO WAY Woodward will not want to be in the mix for him, Romelu or not. The marketing possibilities alone are enormous. Some players would have to leave, but would you really be that bothered about the sale of Fellaini, Mata, Smalling, Jones and Darmian- even De Gea at the right price- if it meant a man who could well be the best on the planet in 18 months coming in?
 
William_Meredith said:
From a purely pragmatic perspective, I'd agree. However, if it becomes clear Neymar is available, there is NO WAY Woodward will not want to be in the mix for him, Romelu or not. The marketing possibilities alone are enormous. Some players would have to leave, but would you really be that bothered about the sale of Fellaini, Mata, Smalling, Jones and Darmian- even De Gea at the right price- if it meant a man who could well be the best on the planet in 18 months coming in?
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I have to say, I don't think I'd be happy with that big of an exodus and I think Neymar is easily one of the top 5 players in the world. We still need squad depth. Selling Darmian when we have so few lbs would be particularly crazy
 
Dazzmondo said:
I have to say, I don't think I'd be happy with that big of an exodus and I think Neymar is easily one of the top 5 players in the world. We still need squad depth. Selling Darmian when we have so few lbs would be particularly crazy
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I think if Demetri Mitchell puts in the right performances pre-season, it wouldn't be that crazy with Shaw, Young and Blind able to play there. It wouldn't be ideal, and I'm not saying all of those players I named should go, but I think there are a fair few saleable assets whose departure wouldn't devastate the first team and could be justified for the arrival of a player of Neymar's stature, especially as I'm convinced at least one midfielder will come in whether Neymar (or another galactico) does or not.
 
William_Meredith said:
I think if Demetri Mitchell puts in the right performances pre-season, it wouldn't be that crazy with Shaw, Young and Blind able to play there. It wouldn't be ideal, and I'm not saying all of those players I named should go, but I think there are a fair few saleable assets whose departure wouldn't devastate the first team and could be justified for the arrival of a player of Neymar's stature, especially as I'm convinced at least one midfielder will come in whether Neymar (or another galactico) does or not.
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Well right now, based on his performances towards the end of last season, Darmian will probably start the season as our 1st choice lb (maybe Blind could). I like Mitchell a lot but Jose's comments on why he brought him on tour suggest he doesn't consider him ready to have that important a role in the squad. Shaw is injured constantly and honestly apart from a 5 game stretch before he broke his leg he's never put in good performances for us when he's played. I'm starting to think he might be a lost cause tbh and I really hope I'm wrong on that. Young is also injured atm, so is Rojo. Don't see how we could do it this season anyway. There are a couple players we could sell but will we get enough money for them? I'm not sure.
 
DWelbz19 said:
It sort of makes sense from Barcelona's perspective. Neymar is obviously a phenomenal player, but selling him - more importantly getting his large wage off the sheets - would make them a lot stronger in fixing the rest of the side. Aren't they constantly hamstrung in going for players because Messi, Neymar, and Suarez take an audacious sum of wages between them?
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Makes more sense to offload Suarez somehow, Neymar is not only one of their best players, but the player who pretty much ensures that they stay competitive after Messi retires/regresses
 
Dazzmondo said:
Well right now, based on his performances towards the end of last season, Darmian will probably start the season as our 1st choice lb (maybe Blind could). I like Mitchell a lot but Jose's comments on why he brought him on tour suggest he doesn't consider him ready to have that important a role in the squad. Shaw is injured constantly and honestly apart from a 5 game stretch before he broke his leg he's never put in good performances for us when he's played. I'm starting to think he might be a lost cause tbh and I really hope I'm wrong on that. Young is also injured atm, so is Rojo. Don't see how we could do it this season anyway. There are a couple players we could sell but will we get enough money for them? I'm not sure.
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In the present market? You could put £20m figures on Smalling, Jones and Fellaini pretty comfortably. Mata? £30m minimum. De Gea? At least 70. That's £160m right there if REALLY needed. There's fat to be trimmed from this squad if Mourinho has faith in the likes of TFM, Mitchell, Tuanzabe, etc. Not as first choice, of course, but as back-ups and cup starters.

Personally, I'd be looking for half that fee on Dybala, as it would balance the attack and Juve look like what they want are replacements for him if their recent business is anything to go by. But Neymar is the biggest 'name' that could possibly leave any club.
 
William_Meredith said:
From a purely pragmatic perspective, I'd agree. However, if it becomes clear Neymar is available, there is NO WAY Woodward will not want to be in the mix for him, Romelu or not. The marketing possibilities alone are enormous. Some players would have to leave, but would you really be that bothered about the sale of Fellaini, Mata, Smalling, Jones and Darmian- even De Gea at the right price- if it meant a man who could well be the best on the planet in 18 months coming in?
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You're right about shifting some, other teams (like Madrid)often make these huge signings and shift dead weight and end up with a small net spend. It would be very disruptive though, with players leaving every week through pre season.
 
Not happening, infact havent PSG done the same thing before with Barca?

Sure Barca were after somebody? might have been Veratti last year and PSG said if they dont leave it alone they would pay Messi's release clause.

Never gonna happen, but it instantly means PSG can go and offer ludicrous wages and do whatever they want to try and unsettle the player.
 
"We should be all over this"

Edit: Just realized I wasted my last post for the day over this.
 
Revan said:
We have already spent over 100m this summer, and with Neymar it would be 300m net spent, without counting some money we will need to spend in a midfielder. We are rich, but not that rich. There is no way that we can spend 300m+ in a summer, we simply do not have that money (especially in this case where the entire money needs to be payed upfront). Our revenue is around 600m pounds, when you count the wages and other expenses, there aren't 300m pounds there for transfers (unless we take a loan).
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I'm not going to get into detail. You will have to google how transfers are accounted for in the books.

We could and I am quite sure would make this deal happen if it was a possibility - which I highly doubt this summer.
 
Amortized over 5 years, it's only £40m per year.

Peanuts.

We should go for it.
 
Willing to chip in a tenner if we went for Neymar, just to ease the financial burden on the club.
 
GBBQ said:
200 mil seems crazy now but the way football is going it could be a shrewd bit of business. Similar to how it looks like we got short changed on 90 million for Ronaldo.

Such players don't come around very often and if there's a slight chance he'd come I'd go for it.
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In any market where Lukaku is worth £75m or £90m or whatever it is, and a player like Kyle Walker is being sold for £45m or £55m or whatever it is, Neymar, the marquee superstar, is a £200m player.
 
GimmeAKitKat said:
Not happening, infact havent PSG done the same thing before with Barca?

Sure Barca were after somebody? might have been Veratti last year and PSG said if they dont leave it alone they would pay Messi's release clause.

Never gonna happen, but it instantly means PSG can go and offer ludicrous wages and do whatever they want to try and unsettle the player.
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It was Thiago Silva. Forgot which year. Think it was 2013.

I also think this is just PSG trying to get Barca to stop chasing Verratti.
 
harms said:
Makes more sense to offload Suarez somehow, Neymar is not only one of their best players, but the player who pretty much ensures that they stay competitive after Messi retires/regresses
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True, but Neymar nets them more money for squad re-investment.

Either way, I think it's moot. Neymar loves playing with Messi and he won't leave now. Maybe in the future he'll leave, but then when Messi declines, Neymar can be the man then.
 
rcoobc said:
Euros not pounds.

So post Brexit that's probably only like £75m a year
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So then we should pay it all off before BrExit!

Woodward needs to broaden the carbohydrate portfolio beyond noodles and get rice, potato and wheat sponsors. That should be enough.
 
rcoobc said:
Euros not pounds.

So post Brexit that's probably only like £75m a year
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£80 when you throw in the wages. Still, united should be able to afford. Question is whether they can find the cash to pay the sum in 30 days

Edit lol quoted the wrong post
 
Who needs Neymar when we're getting the world-class Perisic who will definitely lift us to a treble.
 
Eddy_JukeZ said:
True, but Neymar nets them more money for squad re-investment.

Either way, I think it's moot. Neymar loves playing with Messi and he won't leave now. Maybe in the future he'll leave, but then when Messi declines, Neymar can be the man then.
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As i said, this story is only coming out now because Sport reported some rumblings from neymar's camp, friends and advisors telling him to leave barca
 
sammsky1 said:
So then we should pay it all off before BrExit!

Woodward needs to broaden the carbohydrate portfolio beyond noodles and get rice, potato and wheat sponsors. That should be enough.
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Well that's the carbs covered.
What if he also covers the fats. Stuff like butter, cooking oil and lard. That's gotta be worth a lot of sponsorship money.
And if that still isn't enough, he'll need to search for companies which sell proteins. i wonder if Birds Eye would want to sponsor us?
 
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