So Barca fired Koeman then. That complicated things.
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Or simplified things. They could make an offer we can't refuse for Ole.
Koeman to United then? As stop gap at least
Yuck.
Imagine hiring Koeman instead of Conte. Anyone making that sort of suicidal decision deserves to be tarred and feathered.
Pochettino is so underwhelming. He doesn't play attractive football like Ten Hag, and doesn't have the pedigree that Conte has.
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Nowadays his brain is scrambled from coke use but even he is on point and he can see that easily.Tells you a lot when the board is more clueless than a coked up fighter.
Think they're going for Xavi?
Don't think Zidane is interested in Utd.
Since Zidane is widely reported to not even be an option, I voted for Ten Hag.
Fair enough. Then next best possible candidate is Conte. Both are world class manager.
I don’t understand, Poch would leave now Psg to join United in November?
The only way I can see that happening is if PSG want Zidane.
Pochettino just seems a very uninspiring choice to me. But it’s not really fair to judge his abilities based on his PSG stint. I just hope that if it’s true he’s our number one choice, the club has put real thought into it and is not just falling back on a lazy option dating from a few years back.
If the board poach him from psg, fine. I don't like it personally but if he fails they all need to be replaced
Koeman is free
United finally making the right managerial choice if it is true. Psg is a circus and even though, he is one of the few top manager that can control that circus, he will have more control here at United. At least he will implement a good system of play similiar to what he did at Spurs and slowly building toward that with psg.
Even though, his record is impressive at psg so far, he is the one manager that can take them to the level that they taught was out of reach. So, I am not sure if psg board will let him go so easily, after recently rewarding him with a new contract
What's the obsession with Pochettino? I actually do rate him, but some of the noises make it sound like Poch or keep Ole for us. He brings different things to the table than someone like Conte but he's not clearly "better".
You mean on our club’s part? Heck knows, only thing I can think of was that he was sort of recommended by SAF years ago. I don’t know if SAF still wields outsized influence on our manager choices but if he does then that might partially explain it. And having worked under Levy, he’s probably seen as more amenable to work under our hierarchy as well.
I think the short list will be ten Hag, Potter, Pochettino, Rodgers
And contrary to what some may say, I do like Potter and the ideas he has regarding implementing a style of play which is possession based and aligns with the modern game. I'd be happy with either Potter or ten Hag.
And contrary to what some may say, I do like Potter and the ideas he has regarding implementing a style of play which is possession based and aligns with the modern game. I'd be happy with either Potter or ten Hag.
What are your views on Pochettino? He sticks out a bit to me on that shortlist because while he emphasises a possession based high press game, I don’t think he was really that attacking during his time at Spurs. I could be wrong though.
You're right mate, he wasn't overly attacking but what he did demonstrate was that he could create a team which had the ability and know how, on how to apply pressure in a low block, mid-block or high-line in a compact cohesive way. I'm still not sold on him but would prefer him over someone like Conte which i'll explain below.
The decision to appoint a Head Coach is a decision that has to be a holistic one. For several years now, we as a club have made improvements when it comes to upgrading the level of talent we have at the club, and that includes the youth teams, where the club has invested a considerable amount of money to close the gap to Chelsea and City at youth level. So Pochettino is someone like Potter and ten Hag who does look to develop youth and he's also a good coach. We as a club should base our strategy around the players I've listed below, along with the first team players, rather than Ronaldo and Pogba, who cause a imbalance in the team, which is a big problem when you also have to fit in Bruno..
Elanga
Amad
Shoretire
Hannibal
Mainoo
Hansen
Kambwala
And many others who I haven't listed. There should always be a mid to long-term plan, but that plan should be implemented independently from the Head Coach. And the Head Coach's job is to do the best he can do 'now' with the tools at his disposal which includes developing the big young talents at the club . So my preference would be ten Hag or Potter due to my belief that their methods have the potential to be successful. But I'd also understand if the club wanted Poch assuming he was available.
Pochettino is an upgrade on Ole but not an elite manager. We won't be winning anything major with him.
Eh, as a caretaker maybe. I mean if he hits the ground running and makes that barca team incredible yeah he would stay. But how likely is that? Chances are he would get experience and then Ten Hag takes over come the summer.
An Argentinian coach leaving the opportunity to win the champions league with Lionel Messi to come and play with a United team shy of a dm, with very little pace in the back four and middle of the park. I don’t see it happening.
Our wingers are fast but over all I feel like we are just a slow team. Ronaldo and Pogba don’t help that, don’t get me started on Maguire
Good. I think these managers you listed will follow through with the recruitment plan and structure that began under Ole and has led us to have a squad people think can challenge for the league. I doubt Conte can do the same and be able to work under our recruitment structure and plan that proved decent under Ole
Woke up today and finally that gut wrenching disappointment from Sunday has started to give way a little.
I'm glad the club decided to bide their time instead of doing something rash, despite the embarrassing defeat.
Not too keen on Conte, so if sticking with Ole a while longer means we can get Ten Haag or someone like that. I'm all for it
That being said. If Ole has lost the dressing room and this awful form continues the next few games, we will be forced to act.
I'm glad the club decided to bide their time instead of doing something rash, despite the embarrassing defeat.
Not too keen on Conte, so if sticking with Ole a while longer means we can get Ten Haag or someone like that. I'm all for it
That being said. If Ole has lost the dressing room and this awful form continues the next few games, we will be forced to act.
It has been reported that the shortlist pre-Ole was supposedly Pochettino, Tuchel and Nagelsman. The plan was for Poch to take over after Ole's caretaker stint in the summer, but then Ole won a lot and was hired permanently.
So it kinda sounds like they were in the process of actually taking managerial appointments seriously and having a plan. They probably should have stuck to that plan, but maybe they will start to do that now?
Ogden told Fabrizio on his stream that serious football people on the board are fans of Pochettino and Ten Hag, so I imagine the preference would be to get one of them. If we have to go down the caretaker route it would be good to have a pre-agreement signed and ready with our preferred candidate before the caretaker starts winning games.
It could be we have actually learned something from the past 4 managerial appointments - shocking I know, I don't quite believe it either.
Xavi will get the Barca job. Erik Ten Haag is the best man for the United job not named Luis Enrique.
I don't get the obsession with Erik Ten Haag.
People keep talking about him as 'Young and upcoming manager' yet he is only 1 year younger than Conte with much weaker resume and only 2 leagues and 2 cups in his enitre managerial career, won with (by far) the most dominant team in the league.
He is totally unproven. I don't think playing well occasionally in the CL is enough to convince Glazers he is the right man for the job. They see him as a huge risk.
United and this toxic environment would be a huge step for him imo.
People keep talking about him as 'Young and upcoming manager' yet he is only 1 year younger than Conte with much weaker resume and only 2 leagues and 2 cups in his enitre managerial career, won with (by far) the most dominant team in the league.
He is totally unproven. I don't think playing well occasionally in the CL is enough to convince Glazers he is the right man for the job. They see him as a huge risk.
United and this toxic environment would be a huge step for him imo.
I think it's going to be Conte and it's just a matter of getting the next fixture, or the next three fixtures out of the way. I hope Ole can go out on a high beating Spurs and then Conte comes in for Atalanta.
Conte would be alright. I think he is quite amusing to be honest. Sooner the better.
My word we're going to get Poch and PSG will get Conte.
Paper talk, mate. Conte is who we'll get, I reckon.
The thing is, if we beat spurs then he stays in the job until we get smashed of city. If we lose to spurs then he may be sacked and a caretaker probably carrick/fletcher will most likely take charge for Atalanta and then most likely conte will be brought in to park the bus against city and get a point.
He comes off as the guy still riding the early Spurs teams he had, and he hasn't impressed me at PSG either.
I wouldn't mind him, but I'd be shocked if he came in and took us to the top tier next to City and Liverpool.
If we were having this managerial crisis in April then I'd be all for hiring ten Hag in the summer.
But waiting on him at the expense of this season is a bit ridiculous. Without bringing in some specialist interim manager like Hiddink, who could take us from here to there and keep us in the top four, it's just not feasible. There's no one around out there like that. And sticking with Ole until next summer would mean we fall out of the top 4, maybe even the top 6, and be a laughing stock all year.
Ten Hag just isn't worth wasting a season over. Frank De Boer won 4 league titles with Ajax and then proved to be one of the worst managers in club football after leaving the Eredivisie. Not saying ten Hag would do the same, and he has a good record in the CL unlike De Boer, but it's still a huge risk.
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