Can't believe we're here again, and Poch is still being spoken about as a favourite to take oversuch a dull dull little bloke.
Big fan then? Why so harsh?
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Big fan then? Why so harsh?
I prefer Klopp's style, he is by far my favorite current manager but to me it seems that in the last years people have lost a bit of sense with these style and progressive talks when it comes to rating managers. There is only one objective way to judge a manager, it's by the results of his teams and in the case of Zidane there is no way to consider that he is actually inferior to anyone.
Every manager is a gamble and you can't possibly consider that a manager that has actually been successful in his shorter career is more of a gamble than two managers that have virtually won nothing. Zidane is arguably a comparable gamble to Klopp when Liverpool appointed him, the only decent argument is that he may not speak fluent english but truth be told english is very easy for anyone that actually tries. So to me it's only a matter of Zidane wanting to work in England or not.
Edit: It's also worth mentioning that Pochettino's style isn't exactly Joga Bonito. Tottenham were energetic in defense but generally dull while also not really successful.
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Find me a single City or Liverpool fan who'd swap Pep or Klopp for Zidane....
I will give you a clue.....there isn't one. Job done.
I'd take Potter. Followed his career since Ostersunds and he's always impressed me.
So underwhelming.
That doesn't actually answer the question, those fans are happy with what they have. Would they swap a manager that brought 3 CLs and 2 league titles in 5 years and why?
That’s a weird way of looking at things, you’d probably struggle to find a Liverpool fan who’d swap Klopp for Pep as well never mind any other coach and the same with City fans.
Of everyone available Zidane is the only one who’s CV stacks up against anyone else’s so we’d be silly not to consider him. Add in he’s already been successful with Ronaldo and Varane, he’d automatically command the respect of every player in the squad due to who he is. He’d even be a legitimate reason for Mbappe to consider joining us. We’d actually be crazy not to consider him, do I have doubts about him? Yeah of course but there isn’t anyone who I wouldn’t have doubts about, especially considering how poor we look behind the scenes
I’m not against a young, ambitious manager who’s shown potential. My major problem with Ole is that he got the biggest job in the world and has shown zero inclination or drive to do anything with it but sit passively and not even bother to try and implement any kind of discernible system or tactical approach. Genuinely as if his success as a player here makes him believe that winning trophies just happens by virtue of the name and history of the club
Zidane is easily the best manager out of the possible candidates, but I don't see him and his family living in Manchester, where they don't speak the language. Pochettino might become available soon if PSG keep playing the way they're playing, but then is he really an upgrade because the issues are similar between the two teams and he's not doing any better of a job right now fixing it compared to Ole.
Good Point. But I think it’s easier to drop Rashford, Sancho, Martial or Greenwood to make a system work than to drop Mbappe, Messi and Neymar.
He's not on their level. Nobody is though so it's hardly a negative.
This is the thing our fans are having trouble coming to terms with. Our two most hated rivals have the two best managers in the world. It sucks. It won't last forever thankfully.
I like the idea of taking a chance on Potter. He’s young and has developed Brighton into a decent side that plays solid, balanced football.
With the exception of maybe Poch and Zidane, I don’t see the point in going for a big name just for the sake of it. The board should be hiring a manager based on their potential and philosophy as a coach - not just their name.
The step up for Potter would be too big, I don’t think he would get the respect from players like Ronaldo, Varane, Bruno, De Gea etc. These players are ready to win something now not in 3 years time.
He’s got the charisma of a wet flannel, his football has never particularly wowed me either, even though he undoubtedly did well at Spurs. I just don’t really get it with him, he’s not for me. Obviously better than Ole though.
And I asked to justify the claim which you didn't. What metrics are you using to determine that he isn't better than managers he outperformed during the last 6 years during which he only managed for 5 seasons?
Zidanes agent said a while back England doesn't interest Zidane. We can most likely rule this one out. I think he'll end up in Italy, Juve perhaps? Or a national team. If Poch gets sacked from PSG they will 100% want Zidane.
No one denies this. The fans just want a manager within their universe instead of someone who doesn't deserve to be mentioned alongside them. No reason we can't ge the 3rd best manager if they have the top 2
While it could be true in 2021 it's worth mentioning that you are referring to a quote that was made when Zidane left Real Madrid the first time, in October 2018. I have seen journalists use it and it's a bit baffling.
It's one of the worst arguments to keep Ole in the job. Well, he's not Guardiola or Klopp so we may as well have any old shite coach.
Regardless he seems like a bit of a turn key manager. Not sure he'd want to manage in England where the competition is pretty crazy and getting crazier.
He's a hypocrite, he'd sack the manager of the club he owns, the moment they underperform.
I don't really follow the first one, aren't we currently at a point where we want a manager that simply use the young and talented team that we built in the last 3 years? And do you think that it makes sense to question the competitive spirit of someone that was dealing with Atletico and Barcelona? i could understand that he doesn't want to live in England but it will have nothing to do with not wanting competition, that's the opposite of Zidane.
Pochettino is a serial bottler. What would be the point?
Conte or Zidane out of those available. Ten Hag if could get.
Conte or Zidane out of those available. Ten Hag if could get.
That's fair, but it's not really something you'd even want to do considering what the alternatives are. It's also not easy to drop CR7 either, and I would drop him before at least half of the players you mentioned given how United is currently constructed. Sometimes great teams comes with too many drawbacks, especially if the players are obviously bigger than the manager.
Because results or adaptability doesn't matter, it's all about having your clear style on a team, and never changing it, and ultimately losing because of it.
Zidane will never go to PSG, being from Marseille. You just don't do that.
I probably didn't explain enough. I think he would not take the United job as the conditions are pretty rough at the moment. When he managed Real Madrid he had a great squad and not that much competition for the league outside Barca and Atletico.
Ten Hag for me should be our No1 choice for all the reasons already stated.
I also wouldn’t be adverse to giving it to Simeone. He’s managed to win titles in a league which is dominated by two giants. Sound familiar? People have been complaining about his style of football but it continues to be effective and bring trophies.
I also wouldn’t be adverse to giving it to Simeone. He’s managed to win titles in a league which is dominated by two giants. Sound familiar? People have been complaining about his style of football but it continues to be effective and bring trophies.
The thing that I don't understand is would you use that argument for Guardiola, he has a great squad and only has Liverpool and Chelsea as competition. Would you say that he doesn't have much competition?
I would like to see Luis Enrique come in
I think the competitiveness of the EPL is far greater than La Liga. So no i would not say that.
Highlights how badly we start every season.
Why wouldn't you say that? There has been less distance between La Liga best teams than PL best teams, losing or drawing in the PL isn't as impactful as it is in La Liga which effectively means that the like of Atletico, Barcelona and Real Madrid need to have a winning mindset every weeks, they also have generally been better than their English equivalents in the past 6 years with few exceptions. I mean, would you say that United(2nd in the PL) looked far superior to Villarreal during our last confrontations?
Conveniently misses out the shambles against Young Boys, Villarreal, and going out of the League Cup at the first hurdle.
That's why I think the coaching team is at fault. They seemingly try to impose things on the players and have to adapt later. At least that's my theory.
If he’s no longer with France, Deschamps as caretaker manager for me. If you know a little French, you’ll know his name literally means “The Champs”. If you know a bit more French though, you’ll know it just means “The Fields”. You’ll also know him as the last manager to take a French team to the CL final before Tuchel got the same idea.
He has unfinished business with Ol’ Big Ears, having lost a final with Monaco. He’s probably still hungry like the wolf in that competition, unlike Zidane. Zidane himself would probably be appointed as France’s manager in his stead, a post that he may currently be saving himself for. We have a long-standing tradition of not appointing balding managers since Big Ron, so I wouldn’t be too bothered about missing out on him.
Deschamps’ appointment will have to be completed during December. But this works well for us as November 2022 will be a World Cup month, and Ole usually gets great results during Nov-Dec. But this time we WON’T let him build up steam and turn things around. It’s a perfect, cunning plan.
He has unfinished business with Ol’ Big Ears, having lost a final with Monaco. He’s probably still hungry like the wolf in that competition, unlike Zidane. Zidane himself would probably be appointed as France’s manager in his stead, a post that he may currently be saving himself for. We have a long-standing tradition of not appointing balding managers since Big Ron, so I wouldn’t be too bothered about missing out on him.
Deschamps’ appointment will have to be completed during December. But this works well for us as November 2022 will be a World Cup month, and Ole usually gets great results during Nov-Dec. But this time we WON’T let him build up steam and turn things around. It’s a perfect, cunning plan.
Manuel Pellegrini has no ego and his City team played simple good football. Real Betis would negotiate a release fee I'm sure.
His West Ham team didn’t though. He’s past it probably.
Seriously? I'm not one to be embarrassed by football business really, but that would be a shameful hiring.
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