His football is as dull as dishwater.
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His football is as dull as dishwater.
TBF its not as if Ole is playing kids left right and center. The likes of Mejbri, Diallo and Elanga had been left rotting while we're busy handling contracts to Jesse, Mata and co.
However I do agree that Conte would be a nightmare. First of all Conte is not a big fan of wingers which is our main strength. Secondly he's a difficult manager to handle. He makes Mou look as optimistic as Ole is.
Fully aware. Completely different era. My grandad used to watch United one week & City the next which was the norm at that stage. Rightly or wrongly there was nowhere near the level of tribalism involved in the game that there is now, are you suggesting we should be looking at Steven Gerrard too? I don’t see many inside Old Trafford accepting a Mancini or Pellegrini, they certainly didn’t come up as options in conversations I heard at Leicester yesterday.How old are you?
Sir Matt Busby (look him up) played for both City and Liverpool. Do you think the club shouldn’t have appointed him?
Conte aint winning this league in this competitive climate.
Left rotting? Bit of an exaggeration. Mejbri and Diallo have been injured, how he's supposed to play them? Elanga probably will get a fair few minutes this season as well.
Ole needs to go now. Not in a few weeks , months etc.
There not many available high profile managers who look the perfect fit but theres always the option of giving it scholesy till end of the season.
There not many available high profile managers who look the perfect fit but theres always the option of giving it scholesy till end of the season.
Potter would be my choice. It would be a risk and he could turn out to be shit, but it would be exciting at least. We've gone with the established names, why not try something different? Potter is young and has a clearly established style of play. Would be really interested to see what he could do with this team. He seems the type of manager who would end up going somewhere like Tottenham and we'd end up wishing we'd been more proactive and gone for him first.
I think Conte is a good manager but for me he's just a better version of Mourinho. Or maybe closer to who Mourinho used to be. Someone who will get you success short term but will be gone after a few years.
That being said, I think Conte is much more likely and would fit in with the general short term decisions we tend to make. Going for Potter would actually require more of a plan going forward.
I think Conte is a good manager but for me he's just a better version of Mourinho. Or maybe closer to who Mourinho used to be. Someone who will get you success short term but will be gone after a few years.
That being said, I think Conte is much more likely and would fit in with the general short term decisions we tend to make. Going for Potter would actually require more of a plan going forward.
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The dude won't even give a 30M signing a chance when our midfield has been run through by the likes of Wolverhampton and you think he's going to have the confidence to play Elanga in any games? The manager hasn't incorporated any youth into this squad (in fact he's probably bought older players than LVG and Mourinho on average) except Greenwood who anyone with a pulse would see as a massive star.
Not to mention he threw, what 60M(?), at Pellestri and Amad last year only to buy another RW this summer? It's one thing to buy for the future, it's another to have like 5 different 20 year olds vying for the same position. It's scattergun and it's entirely on him (if he gets credit for improving the club like so many of you suggest for buying certain players) for wasting this much money.
We have to many attacking minded players for them to be given a proper shot. Ole couldn't even let the likes of Jesse, VDB and Mata go.
He played Pobga when he was like 19 or 20 or whatever didn't he? As opposed to Ole who has only played Greenwood. Not much of a difference.
Zidane is as good as Pep or Klopp
He's really not.
Exactly. And it's so funny people turning up their noses at him as if we are the reigning champions of the land talking about replacing SAF with him. Talk about beggars being choosers.
Out of curiosity why not? What makes you so confident about that statement?
Brendan Rodgers for me. And I've been saying it for a while. He plays attractive football and promotes youth. I think he has improved as well since his Liverpool days. He's a good man manager and has done well in the prem. Would far rather him than a manager without premier league experience.
Mostly my eyes. I've seen Madrid's style of play under Zidane, and don't get me wrong, it's not bad, but Klopp and Pep are on another level to anyone else when it comes to how they get their teams to play. Zidane did a good job at one club. He had prime Ronaldo, Kroos, Modric, Benzema, Sergio Ramos, etc. Even then, at times their play was dull but effective, especially in the league. I would not say the same about Klopp or Pep.
I personally thinks he's better, he make uses of what he has better than Pep, who needs everything to be set up just how he likes it.
As for Klopp, Zidane gets his teams into his style quicker.
It's a bit risky to bring the players that Zidane managed in an argument that concerns Guardiola who had prime Messi, Busquets, Iniesta, Villa, Eto'o, Ibrahimovic, Piqué, Dani Alves, Lahm, Ribéry, Neuer, De Bruyne, Aguero David Silva, Robben, Sterling among many others, while Klopp hasn't been managing pub players either whether we are talking about Dortmund or Liverpool and his trophy cabinet doesn't compare to Zidane"s. I also don't think that style is relevant at all in this conversation otherwise Bosz would be a superior coach to Simeone and we know that it's not the case. The reality of Zidane is that it's almost impossible to argue against the idea that he has been as good if not better than Klopp and Guardiola, in 5 seasons he has won 2 league titles and 3 CLs.
Because it's actually quite obvious he rates Elanga, so yeah, I think he will at some point. I don't think there's any players that he could have incorporated yet, so not sure who you think he should be playing just yet?
You don't just buy 1 youth player and hope he solves the issue. Amad is clearly versatile, Pellestri is a different type of player, so they're not exactly vying for the same position. One had made 2 senior appearances for Atalanta (I think) and the other came from Uruguay. Don't see how they were ever going to reach first team level at the same time.
I nominate myself
Where's my fecking contract Ed?
Where's my fecking contract Ed?
I agree tbh. I understand those who wouldn’t want him but I think he’d be good.
He’s definitely improved since Liverpool and he ended last season with a major trophy
Current betting odds:
Poch- 7/2
Rodgers - 4/1
Zidane - 12/1
Southgate - 16/1
Nagelsman- 16/1
Conte - 18/1
Ten Hag- 33/1
Poch- 7/2
Rodgers - 4/1
Zidane - 12/1
Southgate - 16/1
Nagelsman- 16/1
Conte - 18/1
Ten Hag- 33/1
I'd love to see it too. Players with better positional sense - exploiting the half-spaces in between the lines. Imagine Sancho, VDB, Pogba, and Bruno linking up in midfield in front of the opposing low block. Impossible for Ole to implement such a system with his McFred laden 4-2-3-1.
Take me with you. Together we can figure it out.
How can Nagelsman can even be considered by anyone when he just joined Bayern?
Staggering odds.
How can Conte be lower than Southgate for goodness sake.
How can Southgate even be in the conversation?
Poch makes sense, it might be time to scratch that itch! Like Jose, then we can get over it!!
Although why would you leave PSG right now, he's just signed a 2 year deal until 2023? And he failed to win the league with them, which isn't a great sign.
Rodgers is sort of interesting, but he's such a buffoon, and is ex Liverpool. Plus Leicester seem to fall apart at the end of each season league wise. We can do that without him.
Out if the current realistic options, Zidane or Ten Hag for me. Not sure Zidane would be keen, but than it is easier to put all our eggs into the Ten Hag basket.
I have trouble trusting Ten Hag. Maybe I'm naïve but he manages in the Netherlands with the one team that's expected to be good consistently. I don't know much about the league but do they have overwhelming resources compared to the rest of the league like how Bayern does in Germany? I'm not against him, I just don't know much about him at all.
I still want Conte to come in yesterday on a two year deal just to see what he does. If he implodes in a few months, at least we tried something for once instead of just riding the waves hoping something falls into our laps.
I still want Conte to come in yesterday on a two year deal just to see what he does. If he implodes in a few months, at least we tried something for once instead of just riding the waves hoping something falls into our laps.
I'd keep Ole over Southgate. Those lucky draws in the World Cup/Euros won't transfer over to the League thanks.
Overwhelming would be an understatement. Ajax have around twice the budget of PSV.
Start scrolling down the list and see fecking Southgate as a bigger favourite than Conte or Ten Hag… Proceed to clench my fist very tightly.
I would obviously take Conte or Zidane over Ole but I really feel we need one of these progressive attack minded tactician first and foremost. That's my personal preference at least. You see Leicester under Brendan (or many better examples) and whatever he may lack, that implementation of a specific fluid style, is what we need. That's why this Ten Hag sounds good to me. But of course the manager has to be able to handle a big club like United.
Sounds like Neville's happy for us to muddle through the season and see what happens. Quite the change from the 'has to win a trophy' mantra he was peddling a few weeks back. Ole would 100% have been sacked by now and getting way less wriggle room from the Co92 if he never played for us, it's a bloody joke really.
We only have Ronaldo here most likely for a couple of seasons.
It's be criminal to see us "Muddle" through this season and hope it somehow improves. That'd be a real nostalgia killer that would.
At least the rest of the squad are at a good age, with the obvious huge need being in centre mid.
It's be criminal to see us "Muddle" through this season and hope it somehow improves. That'd be a real nostalgia killer that would.
At least the rest of the squad are at a good age, with the obvious huge need being in centre mid.
Why does history with the club matter? This is the kind of thing we need to get over ourselves about.
GN is just playing to the numbers. He won’t call out his old pals. If it was a non ex player, he would be all over them right now.
Whoever comes in we need to make sure they have no history with the SAF years at the club. We need to move away from it 100%.
Many of United's main attackers happen by reason to be younger players. Conte is night and day a better manager than Solskjaer. He plays a better brand of football despite being seen as a defensive coach. The one thing Ole lacks is organisation, tactical fluidity and team cohesion all of which Conte has. We need a manager with an idea I think the likes of Conte, Potter, Ten Haag all have this in their arsenal.
Can't believe we're here again, and Poch is still being spoken about as a favourite to take over such a dull dull little bloke.
such a dull dull little bloke.All very fair points, mate. Hard to argue with a lot of it. Opinions are just that - opinions, and I would still say that I feel like Pep and Klopp have a better style than Zidane and have proven it by coaching more than one team. I think Zidane at United would be a gamble. Sure - it could well work, but I still think it would be more of a risk than someone like Rodgers or Poch who have a prem pedigree.
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