no because of the situation at the club at the moment, he likely has a pass even if he capitulates and finishes 6th
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I've genuine fears that we'll still see the likes of McTominay and Maguire start next season.
Exciting times, but I'll hold off on getting too ahead of myself until confirmed.
I’m hoping this works out. I think there’s risks because so many great looking Dutch managers have failed miserably in the league but I do believe he’s worth the risk and deserves a shot more than Poch.
However I think the club have a big part to play in this also. If he establishes a style of play which is entertaining and we show we are moving in the right direction we need to allow that to develop. None of this top 4 or nothing balls. Even if we fail to get top 4 but have a more combative squad and style of play then we should consider that progress.
Get the playing style in order and we’ll establish ourselves as a too 4 team. None of this bouncing in and out of top 4 season to season is only leading to our short term outlook on how we move forward
However I think the club have a big part to play in this also. If he establishes a style of play which is entertaining and we show we are moving in the right direction we need to allow that to develop. None of this top 4 or nothing balls. Even if we fail to get top 4 but have a more combative squad and style of play then we should consider that progress.
Get the playing style in order and we’ll establish ourselves as a too 4 team. None of this bouncing in and out of top 4 season to season is only leading to our short term outlook on how we move forward
Agreed 100%. Expecting a shambles like Man Utd to reinvent itself in 2 years is la la land. Long term project is the only way.
Stop making stuff up there are no reports just an article by Delaney who is hardly credible and have habit making stuff up and more often than not end up with egg on his face . With United's resources if manager can't put up credible challenge by third year in the league then he isn't upto to the job .
Isn't part of the reason the club want him supposed to be that he is open to letting Murtough (who appears supremely unqualified) continue to make those decisions while he focuses on coaching.
Yea it took Pep a full year and a half along with massive amounts of money to get Citeh playing his way consistently and that was already with a squad who had won a title not long before he got there.
It took Klopp 2 years before getting Liverpool to be a genuine trophy threat.
These things don't happen overnight, takes time to build greatness but I'll be feeling better than I have about the clubs long term future than I have at any point post-Fergie if it's ETH.
Apparently Ferrari dealer service is worse than McClaren's.
5 years:
year one, improved playing style, cut the deadwood, young hungry players that can be coached to greatness. OK if we miss out on Europe altogether as long as a clear path can be seen.
year two: progress. Perhaps Europa League qualification, good domestic cup runs, continue to recruit the right players.
Year three: deep cup run, top 4, maybe get a talented veteran player to supplement the squad, integrating young talent from the reserves/Academy.
year four top 3, domestic cup win, deep CL run.
year 5, title challenge CL final, domestic cup wins.
I could live with this if you told me this would happen under ETH.
year one, improved playing style, cut the deadwood, young hungry players that can be coached to greatness. OK if we miss out on Europe altogether as long as a clear path can be seen.
year two: progress. Perhaps Europa League qualification, good domestic cup runs, continue to recruit the right players.
Year three: deep cup run, top 4, maybe get a talented veteran player to supplement the squad, integrating young talent from the reserves/Academy.
year four top 3, domestic cup win, deep CL run.
year 5, title challenge CL final, domestic cup wins.
I could live with this if you told me this would happen under ETH.
Sadly not a problem I’ll ever experience!
He's still very young in managerial years so hopefully not too late.
He had just made it to an ucl semi final barely losing in an upset so not that unlikely, also I remember there were talks of him replacing Valverde at Barcelona so he already was noted by the big names back then.
In those 9 years, we have finished 2nd twice, won the europa league, and numerous domestic cup. We are not far from the top and if we achieved those with the managerial candidate we had, then a top manager should have us competing at a higher level and winning title faster.
That makes more sense. No manager worth his salt, would say that.
There is confusion. I am talking about before his interim appointment, and you are talking about his official appointment. The reason why I don't use the latter is because there is no similarity between ETH and Ole. ETH isn't going to be given an interim job before deciding on his appointment. Ole had a couple of months to get fans on his side.
ETH is not in that situation so I don't know why you're comparing the two situations as if fan favor of appointment is a similar situation between the two.
I forgot how bad this was. The Dutch woman’s English is better than his
You should watch Joey Barton's speaking in English with a French accent .
Is this confirmed?
It’s Ian Holloway
He certainly is better.
Sounds reasonable to me. Ajax has always been a well-run club with a philosophy ingrained since the days of Rinus Michels. We are a far bigger club, also with a philosophy that goes back to the days of Matt Busby and Jimmy Murphy. Trouble is, United have evolved into two separate entities with commercial success driving the club. How will ETH cope with those demands? He should have a chinwag with LVG before he puts pen to paper.
Not in 2018 he hadn't? The CL semi was in 2019 wasn't it?
That’s very harsh on Maguire.
No it’s not ….Name something he’s done in the last 5 years …. The best number 2 20 years ago
This placeHe would have been 60m when Jose was interested.
I'm in the same boat. I just totally randomly stumbled on a video where Jay Leno explained why he refuses to buy a Ferrari.
It was in 2018/19 basically the same season we made it permanent with ole.
We could have waited till the end of the season and then had gotten ten hag
Is the many man edit in yet , can't live without one of those .
Leno is a tool tbf.
Harsh on Blind to say Maguire is as good as he was. I’ll take prime Blind over today’s Maguire.
He was right in that regard. He still played him a lot though. Where he was most certainly not right was deciding that the ideal "main centre forward" would be Lukaku
His rotation of Rashford and Martial on the left was obviously not ideal, but it worked reasonably well in his second season. What really buggered it up was signing Sanchez and playing him on the left as well.
Perisic did do well after United vetoed him, so I'm happy to concede that maybe Jose was right in that instance. What the latter's fanboys are less keen to shout about is all the expensive duds he landed us with. It's hardly surprising the board, in an extraordinary moment of lucidity, began to question his judgement.
Jose kept on about knowing how to win, yet brought in quite non Jose players.
He's big on dominant centre backs, yet in Bailly and Lindelof brought in 2 with very little aerial dominance.
And Lukaku who is the size of a target man, but nothing like one.
The whole thing was like an exercise in we need to employ Jose just to scratch that itch finally.
I feared we'd do the same with Poch, but the early noises sound positive on the high ceiling Ten Hag.
Obviously it can still very much not work, but it feels like the first time we've looked at a guy doing well at a strong European history club, yet to come to his peak.
Then you’re wrong.
The fans would be out with #ETHout tweets by March of year one....
I really liked Blind the man and on the ball, but he was a weak as feck CB. He’d have been absolutely eaten up in an Ole or Ragnick team.
You would think we are fecking Burnley with those goals
Year three should be year one.5 years is bollox talk as always.
Year one, big improvements in play style.
Year two, continuous improvements and obvious playing style, big improvements in points per game.
Year three, start challenging for stuff.
Year one, big improvements in play style.
Year two, continuous improvements and obvious playing style, big improvements in points per game.
Year three, start challenging for stuff.
I hope he doesn't bring in a load of the Ajax players, they're not good enough
We've never come anywhere close to 1st place in any of that time. City, and now Liverpool. are so far ahead of us. Our squad will see wholesale changes in the next couple years. We'll likely miss out on CL football and therefore our budget will be smaller. To suggest that we could rebuild the squad to a point where it's capable of achieving 95-100 points in merely two seasons, given the current state of the squad, is ridiculous in my opinion, and all it does is set unreasonable expectations that can then be used to cause unrest further down the line.
As far as I'm concerned all we should be expecting in the next couple seasons is clear progress. The same way we seen clear progress when Klopp took over Liverpool and finished 7th, but they were playing some fantastic football regardless. If fans on the whole aren't prepared to get behind the plan long-term, then we may as well not bother at all quite frankly. There are NO quick fixes for this club, too much damage has been done for that.
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