Jacob
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Wally with the brolly.
Was there that day in the Wembley when we knocked you out.
Pouring rain.
One of my favourite games that was.
Who are we?
Wally with the brolly.
Was there that day in the Wembley when we knocked you out.
Pouring rain.
One of my favourite games that was.
Abysmal?
Was it worth keeping him for the odd 5 minute sub appearance here and there? Surely throwing someone like Mejbri would be better for all concerned?
Who are we?
This whole thing about knowing the club. He was here for little more than two years. Twenty one years ago. What does he know? A shortcut to Old Trafford? The best canteen at Carrington for lunch?What do we think about McClaren?
I had hoped for more tbh, but given our squad I don't think even Pep would have gotten much more out of this season.might be only 2 in the league but what about all the draws? That's whats killed the lowest possible target for us for this season (top 4)
It’s vital. In two years none of those could even still be in the league so we have a head start in building for that future. I can see Liverpool and City struggle for a bit after losing such enormous managers but it’s no good to us if we are fighting in 5th. Fail to catch up then and it’s another cycle in the wildernessThe right appointment I think
In the PL you have pep, klopp, conte and tuchel quite possibly the world's top 4 coaches. No matter who comes in it will be a mammoth task to top all of those. Our best bet therefore was the next big thing and that's probably this guy right, what with naglesman at bayern already.
Hopefully he's special, he'll need to be
He was right in that regard. He still played him a lot though. Where he was most certainly not right was deciding that the ideal "main centre forward" would be LukakuHe said something along the lines of Rashford can't be our main centre forward.
And then managed to mess about both he and Martial, and wanting to bring Perisic in for 60m, that was rightly vetoed.
What do we think about McClaren?
5+1. The United way!Five years.
You were right to be sceptical this winter but that's not a slight against Rangnick. He walked into an impossible task, & has been neatured since day one here.I was skeptical of Rangnick as a manager when we got him this winter. And unfortunately, I'm also skeptical of Ten Hag at United. I am worried that he has been the manager of Ajax, which is by far the strongest team in the Netherlands and yet they risk losing the championship to a somewhat weaker PSV team. Also, I'm worried about how he treats young players who do not strike immediately. He throws them on the second team where they can rot and look no further in their direction. Also, I'm worried he's coming from perhaps the 6th strongest league in Europe (England, Spain, Germany, France, Italy are probably all stronger than the Dutch).
Massive risk which reflects our desperation. Exciting appointment but if he isn't backed and given some time it will end no differently to the last 4.
Could say that about most managers post Sir Alex. 5-10 too late.So it's done? I kinda think we should have gone for him in 2018 instead of ole but hopefully he makes things right.
So it's done? I kinda think we should have gone for him in 2018 instead of ole but hopefully he makes things right.
I know this sounds like fence sitting but oh well...
This could be stroke of genius appointment or complete egg on face moment. I just hope it's been thought about and he gets time even if he fails for top 4 in first year.
We need to start appointing managers with a philosophy, with a clear identity.
I just worry the patience won't be there or he just turns out to be the wrong one.
Ajax and Man Utd are very different beasts
He's going to have to work and adapt fast to the league.My only concern with ETH is how he's going to adapt from having really good technical footballers to having the likes of Maguire, AWB and Fred. I'd love to see us play like his Ajax side but we just don't have the players
He'll get backed, certainly very well in this first summer window. We spunk money for fun, he'll get plenty to play with. Not worried. Will we spend it well though? That's the bigger question.
It's more a question of wise spending, recruitment and overall operational functionality. He's going to work with the same personell save Fletcher who've been part of failed regimes
Maguire is pretty much the same as BlindMy only concern with ETH is how he's going to adapt from having really good technical footballers to having the likes of Maguire, AWB and Fred. I'd love to see us play like his Ajax side but we just don't have the players
Rumor has it he is super brutal and doesn't accept poor performances and has a very clear vision on what he demands. Might surprise us if they hold true.Read some reports of him saying it will take five years to get us challenging again and quite a few people saying five years in this thread too....five years?
I know challenging next season is unlikely even signing all the right players and moving the right ones on, which wont happen, but five years?
If we made two good signings each season if not including the DeGea just outfield players, we would have a band new eleven in five years. Xavi with little management experience has come into a struggling Barca side that is virtually bankrupt and transformed them in months. Klopp came into a Liverpool side who were doing no better than us where the star players were ageing or wanting to move on and took less than three seasons.
This isnt the mid 80s where Ferguson took over United and took a good five years to get us challenging, no manager in the modern game gets that long at a top club to get them "challenging".
I dont know much about Ten Hag in all honesty, I dont think the right manager is out there at the moment. Hopefully he does really well here but just a gut feeling from all the comments I am reading on him. My initial thought is people seem obsessed with his playing style and coaching and brand of football or "a project" as seems to be the modern phrase, when that doesnt solve our problems, we need a real man manager who is ruthless as well, not sure I sense that from Ten Hag though dont know much about him
You just don't seem to want this to work though, do you? Constantly looking for the most negative of angle.
The real concern is about how he approaches the job. If he comes in like 2003 Mourinho with a high self confidence and conviction in his principles, forces players to buy into his way from day 1, he could be transformative for the club.My only concern with ETH is how he's going to adapt from having really good technical footballers to having the likes of Maguire, AWB and Fred. I'd love to see us play like his Ajax side but we just don't have the players
Nonsense. You can't go from 9 years of rubbish to beating unstoppable teams like City and Liverpool to the title within 2 years. 5 years would be a sensible estimateIf the reports are true that he said it will take 5 years for him to make us "challenging" for a title, then how did he ace his managerial interview? Most top manager will take 2-3 season and if they had the same resource as our last manager, it will take 2 season. Unless they said that they will not back ETH and he will have the same budget as spurs, even then 5 years is a bad estimation. We already have a good foundation and it shouldn't take to long for him to have us challenging.
I just hope that on his arrival, ETH gets to the task of removing some of the first team squad and the toxicity which has caused the alarming drop in standards. Left at the club they'll only serve to thrown him under the bus.
I'm also skeptical of Ten Hag at United. I am worried that he has been the manager of Ajax, which is by far the strongest team in the Netherlands and yet they risk losing the championship to a somewhat weaker PSV team.
Maguire is pretty much the same as Blind