Bring back moyes 
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I think that's very hard for any man's ego to accept. Especially in the competitive sporting world.
Thats the most ridiculous thing I ever heard. 3 Champions Leagues and 2 League titles. In no way is he Real's Ole! You could argue he is not great tactically or he just went into a god side or whatever you want but he can never be compared to Ole with that amount of silverware.
I'd have Ole over Brendan F*cking Rodgers any god damn day.
Some of you are just deluded.
Crying about not winning stuff then hiring Brendan Rodgers
Be better with your manager ins.
Some of you are just deluded.
Crying about not winning stuff then hiring Brendan Rodgers
Be better with your manager ins.
Not that I'm advocating Potter but Ole came from Molde to United.
That's an even bigger Jump
I'd have Ole over Brendan F*cking Rodgers any god damn day.
Some of you are just deluded.
Crying about not winning stuff then hiring Brendan Rodgers
Be better with your manager ins.
Ole relegates Cardiff. Rodgers dominates Scotland and wins an FA cup with Leicester.
I think you need to look in the mirror.
I'd have Ole over Brendan F*cking Rodgers any god damn day.
Some of you are just deluded.
Crying about not winning stuff then hiring Brendan Rodgers
Be better with your manager ins.
You do realise Rodgers just won the FA Cup last season?
Didn't he win the title for Molde?
He also managed the reserve squad and had played for the best manager of Uniteds history.
Not sure how that's a bigger jump than someone who makes Brighton play good football and got them to 15th.
I agree with that, but other managers will need proper structure too.
I'm not sure the likes of Rodgers and Poch have ever been given the same responsibilities for signings as the United managers.
Why the duck did Ragnick go to of all places Lokomotiv Moskow? Once he made that move, I felt he was no longer a realistic option for a top European club. It reeked of a guy who was not going to get anything in mainland and decided to go make some money in Russia
With who Celtic? Leicester isn't a small team anymore - well done for winning the FA cup but if that's why he should be our manager after only getting Liverpool to 2nd then forget that.
The guy constantly bottles.
What about yesterday's performance
And why do I need to look in the mirror.
I say Enrique and Zidane who craps on anything Rodgers has done. So I'm fine - I look great in the mirror. Thanks
I maybe wrong but Rodgers is usually fairly involved with signings no?
Once nearly a decade ago. It’s also the F’ing Norwegian league.
Mourinho is the only appointment post-Fergie that actually made any sense at the time. All the others have been left-field decisions.
Next time we’re picking a new manager, maybe it’s best that Woodward isn’t here.
Next time we’re picking a new manager, maybe it’s best that Woodward isn’t here.
With who Celtic? Leicester isn't a small team anymore - well done for winning the FA cup but if that's why he should be our manager after only getting Liverpool to 2nd then forget that.
The guy constantly bottles.
What about yesterday's performance
And why do I need to look in the mirror.
I say Enrique and Zidane who craps on anything Rodgers has done. So I'm fine - I look great in the mirror. Thanks
He dominated that league. Did Ole dominate Norway? He beat a better team in the final and out tacticed Tuchel. He plays good football and has never had the financial backing an Ole has had so maybe if anyone deserves a chance it’s a manager of his calibre.
However you want to disregard it whilst backing Ole. It’s bloody insane.
All those great managers who played under SAF like Hughes, Bruce, Keane, Giggs, and the Nevilles.
Maybe by utilizing the obvious quality we have in the side? It's not like he would be inheriting a piss poor squad either, we have genuine quality and a contender for the best player in history playing for us.
The challenges we have are unlike the ones we had when Ole took over, thanks to the stellar rebuild that he has overseen. I think a bit of ingenuity and bravery e.g taking a punt on a young midfielder in the reserves or turning a CB/FB into a temporary DM and giving the side a cohesive structure to control the flow of the game could do wonders then look to make improvements in January or the summer.
Realistically, we don't have many options post Solskjaer, but we're going to fall back into the same trap we fell into under LVG and Mourinho unless we have an actual DOF who is responsible for building the squad. If we have that, or if Fletcher is that then we will be fine with swapping and changing managers every 3 - 5 years.
Pochettino would probably need 3 seasons before we saw trophies, Conte would probably win something right away but be gone by the 3rd season when the Glazers refused to spend another £100m in the transfer window. Zidane was pretty poor at Madrid in terms of integrating young players into the team and is waiting for the France job. All the other 'micro' managers are at big clubs already so we either wait for one of them to fail and snap them up or we pick up someone who has never managed at this level and hope they make it.
Pochettino would probably need 3 seasons before we saw trophies, Conte would probably win something right away but be gone by the 3rd season when the Glazers refused to spend another £100m in the transfer window. Zidane was pretty poor at Madrid in terms of integrating young players into the team and is waiting for the France job. All the other 'micro' managers are at big clubs already so we either wait for one of them to fail and snap them up or we pick up someone who has never managed at this level and hope they make it.
Why can we not get Ole tactics lessons off top, out of work managers? Everyday's a school day. Surely he would learn something. There is no way he will go before the end of the season so every little helps.
And where did I back Ole over Rodgers?
I say that people can't be sacking Ole because he isn't winning titles then going and craving a manager like Brendan Rodgers.
That is not the Chelsea way that so many fans want us to copy or whatever.
Enrique is available.
Zidane is available.
Money is available.
Leicester 3 losses and 2 draws this season. Yet people want Rodgers here. Okay. No thanks. No pressure on him and he is failing to his standards to.
Zidane. No question. We are a team of galacticos so he should be a great fit to raise them up a level.
But we now have a proper structure - a DOF and a Technical Director too. It's just I think the higher ups at United are afraid of offending Ole and are walking on eggshells regarding this issue hence we have a situation where the manager has the same rank as the DOF and has a ridiculous veto on all transfer decisions. Something I think will change when we hire the next manager.
Surprised Antonio Conte was not mentioned
People don’t want to sack Ole because he can’t win trophies. They want him sacked because he’s sh!te. There’s a big difference. Plus Rodgers has won trophies so it’s just a lame excuse. That’s all I’m saying.
I don't want Zidane and many of the big names being touted. I don't think Zidane has a defines system that he can impose, Conte is basically Mourinho ll and Pochettino hasn't done much.
My choice would be ten Hag because of the way he had Ajax playing and strikes me as someone not too scared to integrate the youth or impose his style on an opponent.
Iny view after Ole we will have a strong squad with a few weaknesses in midfield and at Right Back. Whilst we could spend our way out of that situation I think we need a manager that would come in, fuse our direct playing style with possession football, maybe sign a DM and look into investing playing time in a young 8 like Garner/Hannibal and be brave enough to integrate a RB like Laird. We can't be buying a whole 1st eleven for £50m and above.
It was an awful appointment and I said that at the time too. We have been so bad hiring managers I actually fear we will end up with Rodgers next.
Personally I blame Rodgers for last season bottling it, we were been setup to not lose games instead of to win them, we thrashed WBA first half 3-0, then at FT he publically blasted the players for it. Next game we were back to been passive again. He started like a house on fire here, first 9 months or so played some lightning football, were Liverpool's main title contenders for a while but then after we got battered in two games by Man City and Liverpool, he changed up his approach and in my opinion hasn't really recovered since then in terms of performances but did to be fair to him still managed to get us another season mostly in top 4 before the second collapse, Somehow he maintained performances in cup games which ended up with us winning two trophies so am grateful to him, but he seems to have hit a ceiling in league.
This season he has been playing a massively out of form and probably injured player for most games, and been leaving out our top scorer from last season. So if you got him also be prepared for stubbornness on favourite players.
That is wierd. Rodgers won One Team League. But you can’t recognise Solskjaer ending Rosenborg dominance and building a team that still is working well. Two leagues that are on same level.
Impressive from a bad manager to be on the same level as Guardiola, Klopp and Tuchel looking at League this year. Impressive that a bad manager can turn around a sinking ship. Are you blinded by your hate that facts don’t matter anymore? Or that you chose what is good for your opinion?
Oh the irony in that
I don’t see Zidane with a certain style of play though…. Is he an attacking manager? Obviously he’s got something about him as he’s won bare champions leagues in a row. But why did it all go sour at Madrid?
Call me crazy. It's worth to take a look at Mancini. It seems his style of football has changed. He had Italy play beautiful football at the Euro.
Based on availability now, I would choose Zidane.
Based on availability now, I would choose Zidane.
Well yeah. And we're now in a thread talking about replacing him.
That's just ridiculous. If he has not tactical awareness, then he would not have switched back and forth between his favored 4-3-3 setup to a 4-1-2-1-2 system depending of who's available, ,of who is in form and of what their strengths are. Gareth Bale paid the price between the spring of 2017 up to 2018 because he was not as good as before, but the changes allowed Ronaldo and Benzema to be even more dangerous up front.
And for the record, last season was Zidane's exception to the rule in the measure that he came trophyless for the first time he was involved in a context where something could be salvaged. Nevertheless, he led that team down to the wire in La Liga and in the European semis despite injuries to a number of key players. With John Murtough and Darren Fletcher now involved in recruiting players based on our needs, I think that Zidane can focus on coaching the team without the kind of clownish distraction (Fiorentino Perez) he used to deal with at Real Madrid.
People really want Conte? They would give up what has been built over the last few years for another Mourinho? Maybe he will get this squad a title. Maybe. But he’ll certainly leave with the squad in complete disharmony after two years. Is that really what we want?
The thought of Brendan fecking Rodgers walking out at OT with a United suit on? feck that. Are you guys feeling that bad you want to hire a failed Liverpool manager.
It’s going to need to get a lot worse for Ole to be sacked halfway through the season. Out of all cups and way outside the top four. Even then it’ll be a temp manager till the end of the season, by which point there might be better options available.
The thought of Brendan fecking Rodgers walking out at OT with a United suit on? feck that. Are you guys feeling that bad you want to hire a failed Liverpool manager.
It’s going to need to get a lot worse for Ole to be sacked halfway through the season. Out of all cups and way outside the top four. Even then it’ll be a temp manager till the end of the season, by which point there might be better options available.
We should be hiring actual coaches next that have the pedigree and history of improving players and teams. Rodgers we have seen enough to know his limitations as a manager, while Zidane is just more fancy Ole who has done superbly with man management and brought squad harmony to Real Madrid but is he an actual hands on coach that will finally modernize our way of playing and can bring tactical awareness needed to acquire 95+ points to win EPL? I doubt that. I personally would go for Conte, tremendous coach with high intensity pressing despite being a little on the cautious side of the spectrum but there’s no one doubting his coaching credentials and making the sum more than its parts. Less proven but more attacking minded coaches are Hasenhuttl, Rose, or Poter.
I don't know if we can provide a full answer, but there are 2 articles you may be interested to read for hints of answers.
Zinedine Zidane and his philosophy (There is a reference to what he learned from Lippi at Juventus).
What is Zinedine Zidane's football tactic and philosophy, and will it suit Manchester United if he replaces Jose Mourinho? (From Quora; that was BEFORE Ole even came in and then signed players).
Mancini it should be.
Lets make this Molde thing clear. It’s league that’s probably worse than league two and Ole won the league with a team who had better finances than the rest of the league.
He also managed to win the league twice in his first campaign whilst not winning a single trophy since his return in 2015 until now. Neil Lennon managerial career looks better.
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