We have 7 more league fixtures until the Ligue 1 break which is from the 22nd December to the 7th of Jan. we've got 4 points in our last 7, if we get a similar amount in our next 7 I'm sorry to break it to you but we'll be out of the top 4 race.The top 4 won’t be decided by Christmas, behave. It’s far too competitive for that.
At United the manager has a total control outside of ridiculous transfers because apparently we have more people working on it now, which is good. But the overall picture relies on the manager and what he wants. PSG is a propaganda team. United is clueless (which is why it relies on the manager heavily) but at least not that kind of team. More freedom for Poch if he works here for sure.How is it different at United?
Most fans seem to want Ten Hag, and he seems the obvious long term option. However, I have a horrible feeling that the club will go for Poch because he’s seen as a “bigger name”
The PL has recently implemented something similar to a winter break other leagues have. I think it's like a 2 weeks break very team get in January, started about 2 or 3 seasons ago.Only the Bundesliga has a winter break among top leagues.
It's nonsense in the sense it won't happen. It's not nonsense in the sense that it is a good reason not to take the job. Other clubs also have footballing infrastructures yes. But not ones that lace marketing above football and actually inhibit you from reshaping the team.
How is it different at United?
Well, someone will take Ten Hag if we don’t get him, whether it’s a league rival or another top European clubI can absolutely live with Pochettino getting the job provided none of our league rivals take Ten Hag in the next few years
This is the biggest obstacle to him.Disneyland
I don’t think that’s the reason: more his ability to deliver top 4 until his last season at Spurs, his personality, attacking football and promoting youth players, plus he is mates with Sir Alex.Most fans seem to want Ten Hag, and he seems the obvious long term option. However, I have a horrible feeling that the club will go for Poch because he’s seen as a “bigger name”
Well, someone will take Ten Hag if we don’t get him, whether it’s a league rival or another top European club
This is the biggest obstacle to him.
I don’t think that’s the reason: more his ability to deliver top 4 until his last season at Spurs, his personality, attacking football and promoting youth players, plus he is mates with Sir Alex.
I just don’t see this club going for Ten Hag if I’m honest, despite himhaving the highest potential upside. Quite concerned that he will join city after Pep in a fairly seamless transition.
I think we can forget Ten Hag if we don’t get him this time - he'll go to a top top club next, he doesn’t need another stepping stoneAnother european club gives me slim hopes of him replacing Pochettino, however join a City/Chelsea/scousers and its dead in the water was my point
Most fans seem to want Ten Hag, and he seems the obvious long term option. However, I have a horrible feeling that the club will go for Poch because he’s seen as a “bigger name”
Well if that's his take on it then you can tell he knows the score here. I totally agree with him.
can we play that game though with our current squad. Ronaldo doesn't press, our midfield isn't comfortable in possession. It might be why these managers would prefer to come in next season, so they can add a couple of players to more suit their preferred style of play
Is it strange I want him more after seeing this sort of thing.
Pros
- Plays attacking football
- Promotes youth
- Is experienced in the Champions League
- Is experienced in the Premier League
- Appears to really want to come to Man Utd
Cons
- Question marks over his ability to deliver major trophies
Yeah, the pros definitely outweigh the con for appointing Pochettino.
While it would be so the way to go it probably turns United of hiring him as Carrick and co apparently come with the position
What the new manager doesn’t get to chose/bring his own coaches??While it would be so the way to go it probably turns United of hiring him as Carrick and co apparently come with the position
It could be made up - but really, how many managers of clubs with actual real CL aspirations are giving up their gig to come to this?Yes, for starters it could be completely made up, and I'm sure loads of managers would quit their current gig to cone to United, he'd hardly be unique in that regard.
Do we know that? I've worked in collectively dysfunctional management teams containing individually competent people.Any manager that doesn't immediately boot them is a pointless hire, they are every bit as unfit for purpose as Ole was.
They should absolutely go and I’m totally bemused about this claim they need to stay, is this even a thing? I though they are just interimAny manager that doesn't immediately boot them is a pointless hire, they are every bit as unfit for purpose as Ole was.
Does he promotes youth? In six season outside of Winks has he meaningfully promoted someone?
Don't get me wrong, I would prefer Ten Hag over Poch, but it's not like there is an insane gulf in their CVs or managerial abilities. Ten Hag hasn't really ben put in a position that would allow for the failures Poch has experienced yet, there is no guarantee that these things won't happen to him too.His progress in the CL with a team constantly stripped of its best players, along with promotion of young talent outweighs anything Poch has done bar one hot streak with Harry Kane in the form of his life. Poch has never rebuilt a team to acheive those same heights and IMO his style of play isn't on the same level either.
What Ten Hag has done with Haller makes you wonder what he could do with Ronaldo.
I think it would be the perfect opportunity to bring him in. Pep and Klopp have both more or less confirmed they'll be leaving in the next couple of seasons which isnt really surprising considering how exhausting it must be for both players and manager to keep that intensity up for so long. They're both finely tuned teams which means they have to get their next managers exactly right or else they won't be near the same standard they're accustomed to.I have a gut feeling that if it will be Poch it won't be much different than under Ole. Perhaps a top 3 finish but nothing more. He won't have us challenging for much with the competition he would face I feel like..
You forgot about his coaching backroom - I doubt he'd come otherwise. I can see Carrick or McKenna staying like Mason at Spurs but that's it.Pros
- Plays attacking football
- Promotes youth
- Is experienced in the Champions League
- Is experienced in the Premier League
- Appears to really want to come to Man Utd
Cons
- Question marks over his ability to deliver major trophies
Yeah, the pros definitely outweigh the con for appointing Pochettino.
This is common cause at this point. Most of us prefer Ten Hag but think it's a bit unrealistic because Glazers. We're pretty Ok with Poch. And we hate the idea of Bodger.Pochettino and Ten Hag are probably the pick of the candidates for me.
Don't get me wrong, I would prefer Ten Hag over Poch, but it's not like there is an insane gulf in their CVs or managerial abilities. Ten Hag hasn't really ben put in a position that would allow for the failures Poch has experienced yet, there is no guarantee that these things won't happen to him too.
Are you joking? He couldn't even win the French league with PSG. That's unforgivable. He's an absolute bum.Pros
- Plays attacking football
- Promotes youth
- Is experienced in the Champions League
- Is experienced in the Premier League
- Appears to really want to come to Man Utd
Cons
- Question marks over his ability to deliver major trophies
Yeah, the pros definitely outweigh the con for appointing Pochettino.
I think it's more a case of playing young players, like Dele thrived under him.
At United the manager still says who he wants to buy and chooses who actually plays. PSG Leonardo buys the players and they expect the coach to coach them. It is rumoured he also tells the coach who should play.How is it different at United?
Ridiculous post. Tuchel was on his way to not winning it either, 6 months later he wins the CL with ChelseaAre you joking? He couldn't even win the French league with PSG. That's unforgivable. He's an absolute bum.
You might be right that we will struggle to win the title but you can't compare ole to poch in terms of coaching ability, that would be entirely ridiculous. The fact is if poch doesn't join us and leaves psg in the summer he will end up at another top club, ole will struggle to get a job in the championshipI think it would be the perfect opportunity to bring him in. Pep and Klopp have both more or less confirmed they'll be leaving in the next couple of seasons which isnt really surprising considering how exhausting it must be for both players and manager to keep that intensity up for so long. They're both finely tuned teams which means they have to get their next managers exactly right or else they won't be near the same standard they're accustomed to.
Get Poch/ETH in at the end of the season, give them a year and hopefully all the domino's fall in to place at the right time.
Unless he asks for Eric Dier.At United the manager has a total control outside of ridiculous transfers because apparently we have more people working on it now, which is good. But the overall picture relies on the manager and what he wants. PSG is a propaganda team. United is clueless (which is why it relies on the manager heavily) but at least not that kind of team. More freedom for Poch if he works here for sure.
It could be made up - but really, how many managers of clubs with actual real CL aspirations are giving up their gig to come to this?
Do we know that? I've worked in collectively dysfunctional management teams containing individually competent people.
They should absolutely go and I’m totally bemused about this claim they need to stay, is this even a thing? I though they are just interim
I agree. I'd rather see Ten Hag personally.Also, the fact he is ready to leave behind a squad with the riches of PSG is a great sign for us. No way should we be considering begging the likes of Zidane or waiting for an ETH. I really think we'd be in safe hands with either Erik or Poch though.
