Next permanent manager | Poll updated

Who should be the next permanent manager?

  • Luis Enrique

    Votes: 113 7.4%
  • Erik ten Hag

    Votes: 1,300 84.7%
  • Julen Lopetegui

    Votes: 10 0.7%
  • Mauricio Pochettino

    Votes: 79 5.1%
  • None of the above

    Votes: 32 2.1%

  • Total voters
    1,534
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Well reasoned and I agree, still leaves me wondering a couple of things. Who out there would take the job as an interim knowing they'll be replaced in the summer? And are the people who run our club really capable of getting rid of the interim if they do well, to execute that plan?

I can only assume an interim manager will be an internal appointment, which is a mistake in my opinion and we can just write the season off.

Well they could go for someone like Keane, Hughes or Bruce who actually have real experience. Giving Carrick or Fletcher the role to the end of the season is just nonsense. Feck me, even Ince has more sense to it than one of those two. If he wasn't such a slimeball, I would have had money on Giggs getting the role.
 
Would love Eric ten Hag, wouldn't mind Zidane, and would find Poch acceptable. Everyone else on the list would be underwhelming.
 
I have a gut feeling that if it will be Poch it won't be much different than under Ole. Perhaps a top 3 finish but nothing more. He won't have us challenging for much with the competition he would face I feel like..
 
Personally I'd like a manager who bring a new philosophy to Utd, a change in how we play. For me personally that would be someone like Erik Ten Hag or Luis Enrique for example (as unrealistic as the latter is). The likes of Diego Simeone and Allergi for example are too much like Conte and Mourinho in how they approach the game, its defence first for them and we had that with Mourinho already.

It would have to be a "name" who would garner respect in the dressing room with players like Ronaldo, Varane, Bruno etc, ruling out people like graham potter, who has some fans on here.

What the club want is the key though isnt it? Do they want someone to continue the cultural reboot narrative and build on Oles work? Or do they want a different approach entirely? I think it will be the former rather than the latter. It's a very good squad, which needs a few upgrades in a few positions, but it's not a major rebuild.

Which is why I could see the club wait till the summer to see if they can get Poch from PSG.
 
Poch will be good, but I am not sure he will get the better of Pep and Klopp and Tuchel. We need someone completely new to freshen things up, Ten Hag with Ragnick as DoF is the way to go.
 
Not really and I have no objective reason for it.
Interesting. The way you defended his record, I assumed you'd be in favour of him being hired.

What you write makes perfect sense to me though. Zidane is a very, very curious case.
Despite it being completely nonsensical, irrational, to doubt his capabilities given his achievements at Real (during a transfer ban!), and despite him being a very likeable, cool, quietly authoritative, and impressive person who comes across as smart and knowledgeable - I can confidently say that I think he would monumentally flop as manager of Man United as deep down inside I consider him an awful coach. I have reasons for it but I sure can't call them objective :lol:
 
Apparently and I have it on good authority the board are going for , Roberto Martinez. The sticking point is he wants to manage Belgium in the world cup. Newcastle faced the same demand but utd may be more accomodating , according to sources (me).
 
Voted for Zidane. To be fair he can be a miss, but if it's, it's going to be big.
I always preferred Conte, but we was too slow to act, and from the current - Zidane is the best variant.


Erik ten Hag will be a huge miss for me. The hype was the same for Andre Villas Boas, and to me he was way more talented, and actually have better results, before he came to Chelsea.
Erikten Hag to me will be the same like De Boer.
Huge hype from him time with Ajax, 4 straight title, big talk about attacking football, and he was sacked in a record time when he move to PL .... This speaks for itself.


This ain't Fifa/Manager, dreaming is one thing, but reality is another.
 
Well they could go for someone like Keane, Hughes or Bruce who actually have real experience. Giving Carrick or Fletcher the role to the end of the season is just nonsense. Feck me, even Ince has more sense to it than one of those two. If he wasn't such a slimeball, I would have had money on Giggs getting the role.

It might not be a done deal but I think it's pretty obvious someone is lined up for summer they can't get now.

For me, the coaching staff should go with Ole, anything else is allowing them to shirk responsibility. It's not unusual for an assistant to take control for a few games of course, but this will be more than that. No way will we see an interim manager and interim coaching staff take the helm for a few months.

What a mess
 
It might not be a done deal but I think it's pretty obvious someone is lined up for summer they can't get now.

For me, the coaching staff should go with Ole, anything else is allowing them to shirk responsibility. It's not unusual for an assistant to take control for a few games of course, but this will be more than that. No way will we see an interim manager and interim coaching staff take the helm for a few months.

What a mess
Yeah, it's pretty obvious it's Poch as well sadly.
 
So Zidane is not among your dream candidates?
Why would you dream about a manger who has no interest in committing to it and whose family would be inconvenienced by it? We’ve seen how both Mourinho and now Ole have been completely worn down by doing the job, essentially living away from home from their family.

A red line for me for the next manager is someone being torn between two worlds. They have to be committing to Manchester United and adopting the local area as their home. This is high pressured job and you need your/a support network with you to make this sustainable.
 
Interesting. The way you defended his record, I assumed you'd be in favour of him being hired.

What you write makes perfect sense to me though. Zidane is a very, very curious case.
Despite it being completely nonsensical, irrational, to doubt his capabilities given his achievements at Real (during a transfer ban!), and despite him being a very likeable, cool, quietly authoritative, and impressive person who comes across as smart and knowledgeable - I can confidently say that I think he would monumentally flop as manager of Man United as deep down inside I consider him an awful coach. I have reasons for it but I sure can't call them objective :lol:

I defend his record because people talk absolute nonsense about it, they clearly have no clue about it and still repeat the same things that have somehow become facts. And the thing is that I don't find Zidane likeable, I have always had the feeling that he was manipulative and I grew up seeing him doing dirty things that stuck to my mind, like the red he got against Saudi Arabia in 98.
 
It's really looking like Poch is the first choice, unfortunately.

A yes man, a serial loser and a manager who's only 49 but who's style already seems antiquated compared to some of the progressive tacticians out there.

From a profile of his time at Spurs:
Pochettino gives his team freedom. For example, players at some clubs have to sign up to a code of conduct but not at Tottenham. Pochettino will not fine a player for being a couple of minutes late or wearing the wrong clothing. To him, it is important that they have the framework to express themselves.

Pochettino describes his approach as 'fluid and holistic'. He is not bound by conventions, such as running through tactics and set pieces the day before a game or naming the team immediately after the final session. For the 3-0 win at Hull City on Wednesday 14 December, he announced the lineup two hours before kick-off. Furthermore, he switched to a formation with three at the back.

He believes that he cannot stress the players’ bodies or minds. Some managers stick to pre-match schedules partly as a comfort to themselves, so that they can say they ticked every box. Not Pochettino.

We've seen what happens when you trust this group of players.

We've seen what happens when you expect them to be self-motivated or assume that they have the footballing IQ or inherent standards to give them this type of flexibility and faith.
 
It might not be a done deal but I think it's pretty obvious someone is lined up for summer they can't get now.

For me, the coaching staff should go with Ole, anything else is allowing them to shirk responsibility. It's not unusual for an assistant to take control for a few games of course, but this will be more than that. No way will we see an interim manager and interim coaching staff take the helm for a few months.

What a mess

It is. I understand that they may have a manager who they cannot get until Summer. However, not getting a interim with experience when you're in November is mental.
 
I defend his record because people talk absolute nonsense about it, they clearly have no clue about it and still repeat the same things that have somehow become facts. And the thing is that I don't find Zidane likeable, I have always had the feeling that he was manipulative and I grew up seeing him doing dirty things that stuck to my mind, like the red he got against Saudi Arabia in 98.
Obviously, since I've never heard him speak while being able to understand (he doesn't speak in English publicly, my French is very rudimentary and I don't understand Spanish), I can say very little about how he is.
I found his demeanour on the touchline always classy, and I thought his farewell letter when he quit Real last summer, was it?, to be pretty smart even if slightly bitchy, so that's all my impression is based on. Of course the red in the WC final was a stunningly self-absorbed thing to do.

But his Real were so weird, they looked so poor and disjointed so often, any team could run through them, loads of rather pathetic performances, but still getting somewhat consistent results, and then suddenly in select, relevant big games or even season phases, CL, Clasico, they were massive. Very weird, maddeningly so. But I don't think he could keep up with the consistency of Pep, Klopp, Conte, and Tuchel in the league.

But what do you mean with manipulative?
 
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We need a philosophy type manager that is uncompromising so for me it has to be Ten Hag. I think Poch could easily fail.
 
It's really looking like Poch is the first choice, unfortunately.

A yes man, a serial loser and a manager who's only 49 but who's style already seems antiquated compared to some of the progressive tacticians out there.

From a profile of his time at Spurs:






We've seen what happens when you trust this group of players.

We've seen what happens when you expect them to be self-motivated or assume that they have the footballing IQ or inherent standards to give them this type of flexibility and faith.
That's the problem, with our current board we're always like 3 years late.
 
My pick of the bunch at the minute is Rodgers. He plays good football, develops players well and has done a good job at Leicester. Following him, I'd have Poch. Again - PL proven, knows the league well and would do a great job. Zidane is meh for me. Recently heard him being interviewed about his 'philosophy' and it sounded like an Ole interview. Super general, no fixed plan or way of playing - just keep the ball up the field and pass quickly. Wasn't convinced and think he might struggle in the Prem. Ten Hag seems like a top coach, but I'm concerned that he won't translate well to the prem. His Ajax side plays some lovely stuff, and if it did work at United it could be pretty special. But the pace of the dutch league is light years away from that of the PL - and we've seen many players who starred there struggle here, so not sure if a coach would do differently. He's a gamble, imo. But then again, no one is guaranteed to be a success.
 
Serious question, if Pochettino wins the league (given) at and gets to the final or wins the CL with PSG this year, are people still going to discount him because he never won a trophy at Spurs? I see a lot of people saying he isn’t good enough but then in the same breath touting Ten Hag as first pick, who’s done less in a lesser league.
 
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