Simon says Ole stays.
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Simon says Ole stays.
Its going to be Brendan, isn't it ?
We aren't gonna win unless we bring in a coach who can successfully implement a way of playing the game with our current crop of players. We don't play any specific way, so the new Coach won't be trying to change us from one style to another but rather from no style to a style.
I assume you mean Solskjaer doesn't give chances to youngsters because ten Hag has brought through Gravenberch, Timber from the youth team and also helped develop Antony. He's also got a number of players on the bench who are being prepared for future battles.
My fear too. He will bring about an improvement in the short term for sure. But back to the same situation in 2-3 yrs guaranteed.
Simon is basically saying the club aren't saying much hence 'there's no indication'
Yeah I’m all for Ten Hag. It annoys me how we don’t utilise our team. Look how top heavy it is. We have Mata sitting at home. It’s stupid.
I agree with you mate and that annoys me too. Mata was getting starts ahead of the talent youth we have at the club in pre-season and the Carabao Cup. And he's not even part of the short or long term, It's a mess.
Do we actually need a human? Without an obvious candidate from the organic bipedal community why not develop a software programme to mash up all relevant stats game by game and select the optimal team? Just go full AI and fuxk these immensely disappointing humans off.
Will fecking puke if that is to happen. Miss on Conte to get fecking Brendan... At this point just see the season out, try not to get relegated and go for Ten Hag.
Rangnick as interim just to get this team coached better then allow him to go alongside Murtough and pick next manager
As annoying as it will be, Brendan will have the strongest squad he has ever managed. He could actually do good. At least he should easily get us into top 4.
But I dont see Glazers paying the probable ludicrous sum Leicester want for him.
But I dont see Glazers paying the probable ludicrous sum Leicester want for him.
Ohhhh my goddddddddd, managers are only short term if they are unsuccessful, managers are only long term if they are successful in the short term. Why the hell would you want a "long term managerial appointment" without knowing if they are going to be successful at all, oh right because of Sir Alex. I hate this damn club, i hate the owners and the romanticism and the DNA and the passion, it really pisses me off. Wake up and join the modern era, if Conte was successful and didn't clash with a board, guess what, he'd be long term, we're the only club that want to make long term appointments assuming that in 5-6 seasons they'll take us back to the top, they know absolutely nothing about football and there are things i want to say about them but it will probably get me banned from this forum in all honesty. A one eyed dog could run this club better.
Don't worry he's always last to things same with any transfers we do
Having done some reading, Marcelo Gallardo has gone right up my list. He's superb with young players. Tactically very adaptable (including winning a game in the Copa Libertadores with 20+ players out with Covid - playing Enzo Perez in goal, giving a few youth players debuts, playing some people out of position, having no subs). Sounds like he's got the right temperament. He's out of contract at the end of this year. There may be a language barrier but he played in the US for a year so probably speaks at least basic English.
I do hope we don't just go obvious rather than right. Although I want this season salvaged and don't want Ole or an interim manager in too long, I think it's absolutely crucial we're patient enough to wait for the right person as opposed to getting in yet another person who isn't quite good enough. In reality, there's a very minute number of candidates who suit our needs. Change for change sake is not the route we should take.
I do hope we don't just go obvious rather than right. Although I want this season salvaged and don't want Ole or an interim manager in too long, I think it's absolutely crucial we're patient enough to wait for the right person as opposed to getting in yet another person who isn't quite good enough. In reality, there's a very minute number of candidates who suit our needs. Change for change sake is not the route we should take.
Conte was 1/14 at one stage and Southgate 1/8. Thanks be to feck these things didn't transpire. I hope to god Rodgers doesn't come here either.
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@Reapersoul20 keeps mentioning Roberto Martinez as a top level replacement. I can't see it but I'm open to being persuaded.
i'd love to get Potter but we would need an experienced DOF above him
Branston now odds on
Potter will be a good choice but I feel he will need experienced coaches with him. It will be a serious eye opener for him
Ted Lasso!!
Seems one of the two logical options (along with rodgers) though i doubt either will be short of offers by the summer
Ole will probably stay till we are out of the champions league and cant qualify for next years at which point probably there will be a handful of games left and we will put a caretaker in charge (ronaldo player manager might be a long shot but i wouldnt rule it out)
Then i guess we approach Rodgers and Ten Hag... both their representatives approach City and see if they can take over when pep leaves - we end up with whoever city does not want
Id much prefer they just got rid of ole now - chucked however much cash it will take ten hag to change his mid about a mid season move and promise him a big january transfer budget... but I think taking a city reject in the summer with no CL next season is more the glazers way
I'm sure he'd pass up Man United to keep up that senior role...
Rangnick is 63, not 67.
It was an article from 4 years in the future where Woodward is seriously thinking about contemplating Ole's replacement and the past meetings mentioned occurred now.
Four more years! Four more years!
Why would he sack Ole when we are on the way to be promoted back to the PL again?
Looking at the performances by Utd lately it's clear that we need a manager that can put discipline into our defence predominantly and deliver us clean sheets at home, considering we haven't had one since April in the Prem which is the most atrocious aspect of our team. Just watching teams slice through our lines because we aren't covering angles, with the midfield not knowing whether to press or drop, is entirely trainable and shows such a huge naivety in our coaching staff.
Our attack is sufficient with limited rigour or management simply with the ability of our forward line.
We also need a manager that isn't afraid to have Ronaldo on the bench if its suits the match and we need to either press or remain compact, no player should ever be bigger than the club, I don't care who it is (and Ronaldo is my childhood idol). Ronaldo would be an amazing 70 min sub once the opposition has tired a little and we've kept a solid defensive shape.
This is why I'd say Erik, who can use Donny in this exact role to cover midfield as he did at Ajax
Our attack is sufficient with limited rigour or management simply with the ability of our forward line.
We also need a manager that isn't afraid to have Ronaldo on the bench if its suits the match and we need to either press or remain compact, no player should ever be bigger than the club, I don't care who it is (and Ronaldo is my childhood idol). Ronaldo would be an amazing 70 min sub once the opposition has tired a little and we've kept a solid defensive shape.
This is why I'd say Erik, who can use Donny in this exact role to cover midfield as he did at Ajax
He would be an interesting choice indeed. He's managed big egos at PSG and French national team, did incredibly well with Bordeaux, won 3 ligue 1 titles with PSG (though this was probably just par for the course), and has a defined playing style. On top of that is a former player, which suites the Glazer's (idiotic) "keep it in house" model. So in addition to being interesting, this strikes as quite possible.
Perhaps this is me overthinking our current "Galactico" policy, but I can't help feel like our fringe players and overlooked benchwarmers (even maybe some youth players) would do better than our first team right at this moment - especially if someone else was coaching them.
So as a thought experiment, would a team consisting of:
But managed by (someone better) beat our first 11 managed by Solskjaer? I can't help but feel like we should be so much more dangerous a team than we've shown so far, and this sudden reliance on defensively minded players is a tactic designed to stop us losing right now (and thus save his job). At least Mata, Matic and VDB can pass a football. Elanga has the WORLD to prove. And that's without naming the likes of Lingard, or Garner, or Amad Diallo, or any one of the unbelievably talented players with <20 minutes on the football pitch right now. Youth-Courage-Success was supposed to be our motto, yet right now we're relying on two useless overrated fecks that are -obviously- leaving the club for free in 8 months, a 36 and a 34 year old, and a defence which gives the opposition at least 2-3 clear cut chances a game right at this minut, as well as a goalkeeper who like Jekyll and Hyde, has a world class performance one week, then lets shots through his gloves the next, and is pretty much THE most passive keeper I've seen since Goram but without the swagger. I'm imagining the game right now just watching our 3 centre backs get torn apart by the 3 players WE'RE NOT EVEN PLAYING.
So as a thought experiment, would a team consisting of:
Henderson
Williams-Bailly-Tuanzebe-Telles
Matic
VDB-Mata
Sancho-Elanga-Martial
Williams-Bailly-Tuanzebe-Telles
Matic
VDB-Mata
Sancho-Elanga-Martial
But managed by (someone better) beat our first 11 managed by Solskjaer? I can't help but feel like we should be so much more dangerous a team than we've shown so far, and this sudden reliance on defensively minded players is a tactic designed to stop us losing right now (and thus save his job). At least Mata, Matic and VDB can pass a football. Elanga has the WORLD to prove. And that's without naming the likes of Lingard, or Garner, or Amad Diallo, or any one of the unbelievably talented players with <20 minutes on the football pitch right now. Youth-Courage-Success was supposed to be our motto, yet right now we're relying on two useless overrated fecks that are -obviously- leaving the club for free in 8 months, a 36 and a 34 year old, and a defence which gives the opposition at least 2-3 clear cut chances a game right at this minut, as well as a goalkeeper who like Jekyll and Hyde, has a world class performance one week, then lets shots through his gloves the next, and is pretty much THE most passive keeper I've seen since Goram but without the swagger. I'm imagining the game right now just watching our 3 centre backs get torn apart by the 3 players WE'RE NOT EVEN PLAYING.
Marcelo Gallardo is going to some other european club soon and people are going to ask why nobody was talking about him.
Getting 3 years out of a manager is a success at most clubs.
That was supposed to be Ole, it's been 3 years, hundreds of millions of pounds spent and wasted and not a single trophy to show,
i try not to believe everything i read but thats coming from a very reliable source and you just know it's true, plus Ole has only promoted 1 academy player in Greenwood, it's all smoke being blown up each others arses
He screams not-epl for a few years though. Probably better for him to go elsewhere so he can transition into Europe better
Fans should demand it’s Ronaldo immediately until we find a suitable candidate. Sack Ole tomorrow.
I get why he's highly rated, but it just feels like if he was managing in a league of similar quality (say Scotland or Turkey) and he had consistent success in Europe and say won the Europa League and made a CL quarter-final there would both be tons of hype but also tons of people saying "well he's never won the league and it's not even a top 10 league in the world, even if he is going on these great Cup runs."
I can't tell if he moves to Europe, will it be at a huge club like United or Madrid, or will he get a good but mid-table job like Betis or Fiorentina.
It wasn't supposed to be Ole, but rather Pochettino.
Graham Potter if Brighton will let him leave will be a sound manager for the rest of the season and next.
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I don't care about the Liverpool connection.
Rodgers?
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I don't care about the Liverpool connection.
Rodgers?
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