Next Draft - Ideas and Discussions

Managers in the snake order A B C D E
Round 1 begins, they all PM their picks to you in that order.
You announce the 5 picks together.
Round 2 begins from E to A and they repeat the same PMing the picks etc

Prob having a couple of helping mods but you just need to be online at the end of the rounds mainly. You are always online!

That works with sheep, not snake. There would be too many rejected picks, waiting for the new picks before confirming to those after you, etc. The later the round the more insanely slow it would get as there will be dozens if not over 100 players picked that you have no idea whether they are available or not.

Would be funny though when we all emerge at the other end and find nobody picked Messi. Again.
 
The later the round the more insanely slow it would get as there will be dozens if not over 100 players picked that you have no idea whether they are available or not.
Except that the mod after every round will announce the list of 16 players picked in that round.
 
Except that the mod after every round will announce the list of 16 players picked in that round.
True, forgot that. It still doesn't suit a snake format though. It would be glacial and the PM-based picking would offer little discussion. With a sheep draft it wouldn't be much different other than more nervy due to not being able to predict what people may go for.
 
Link: Football's Greatest Managers #1 - Helenio Herrera


Football's Greatest Managers #2

Viktor Maslov

"The Father of modern football" - Jonathan Wilson

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Enigmatic, pragmatic, misunderstood — Viktor Maslov was one of the greatest tactical minds to ever grace football, but his achievements and contributions remain largely under-appreciated.

The man who laid the foundation to modern football!

Playing Years:

Born in 1910 in then Soviet Russia, Maslov’s early childhood was surrounded by the gloom of war and revolutions tearing up apart the country and the continent. With the culmination of the Great War and the Soviet Civil War, football in the country returned to its former state and the opportunity to play for RDPK Moscow presented a stepping stone for Maslov’s career. A couple of years later, the young midfielder crossed the divide as RDPK’s city rivals, Torpedo came calling. He made his name as an unspectacular yet efficient midfielder with an eye for a pass. In his time as a player, he captained the side between 1936 and 1939 before finally hanging up his boots in 1942, at the age of 32.

Early on the path to greatness:

Maslov’s longstanding desire to be the commander at the touchline finally came into fruition as he took over the reigns at Torpedo shortly after his retirement. There was little in the way of success and after a disappointing six year stint, he was relieved of his duties and what followed was a largely unsettled period wherein Maslov swapped three clubs in six seasons. His failures prompted him to take time off and in 1957, Torpedo came calling again.

Invention of the 4-4-2:

"'Football is like an aeroplane,' he said. 'As velocities increase, so does air resistance, so you have to make the head more streamlined." - Maslov

The early 1960s represented the peak in popularity of the 4-2-4 formation, Russian clubs having adopted the system in their droves following the USSR’s success with it at the inaugural European Championships in 1960. Maslov, however, had studied the Brazilian 4-2-4 at the 1958 World Cup and had recognized the importance of bringing one of the forwards back to create a three-man midfield when required. Though there would be no dearth of attacking impetus as a result of the two wing forwards and the two center forwards, the visible flaw of the formation was the gaping holes left down the wings between the half-backs and the wing-forwards.

To counter this flaw, Maslov proposed tinkering the formation by instructing one of his wing forwards to drop deep into central midfield when not in possession of the ball to render balance to the team. In implementing his system at Kiev, the Russian went one step ahead and instructed both of his wing-forwards to drop deep, making a flat bank of four in midfield and thus narrowing down the open spaces on the wings.

Thus came about the 4-4-2, the blueprint of English football. Maslov’s modified system found the right balance between defense and attack and transitional play became easier considering the number of bodies in midfield. Football was moving from reliance on individual brilliance to efficient use of all resources available.

Using the 4-4-2 to devastating effect, Maslov’s Dynamo side dominated Soviet football during the late sixties as they stormed to the 1966, 67 and 68 Soviet titles as well as the 1966 Soviet Cup. Maslov, almost single-handedly, had shifted the balance of power in Soviet football from Moscow to Kiev, success almost literally following his physical passage across the vastness of the USSR.

His Dynamo side dominated football in the Soviet Union for a major part of the 60’s as they won consecutive league titles between 1966 and 1968 alongside a couple of domestic cups.

Invention of Pressing & Zonal Marking:

Off the field, Maslov put particular emphasis on his players’ nutrition and dietary routines to ensure that his team remained fit enough to challenge for top honours on a regular basis. As the conditioning and strength of his players increased, the Russian introduced the system of pressing with the primary motive of not allowing his opposition any space and time on the ball, as was the trend back then.

Maslov’s teams would harass and hound the opposition in possession, but their system was good enough that players covered those pressuring the man with the ball, using their supreme fitness to block up gaps that might otherwise have been exploited. Dynamo Kyiv’s change to pressing and winning the ball back higher was a key development, as before Maslov, teams tended allow their opponents space and time on the ball whereas Maslov’s instigation of pressing denied players this time and space and led to the game based more on fitness and tactical awareness that can be seen in practically ever league in the world today.
With an increasing emphasis on total organisation in all areas of the field, the hallmark of Maslov’s Dynamo became the team’s ability to over-man across the pitch, negating opposition movement with the brilliance of their positioning and the aggressiveness of their pressing.Jonathan Wilson writes: “Their (Dynamo’s) midfield was hunting in packs, closing down opponents and seizing the initiative in previously unexpected areas of the pitch.”

The Dynamo of the 60’s were among the first sides in football to integrate team-work in building in a perfectly cohesive unit that hunted in packs and not on the brilliance of an individual. The team pressed and defended zonally to negate the threat posed by the roaming center forward of those times ala Nandor Hidegkuti. Maslov famously proclaimed the vices of a man-marking system – “Man-marking humiliates, insults and even morally oppresses the players who resort to it.”

Maslov’s introduction of the tactic of pressing and squeezing the opposition high up the pitch was the most important tactical change in a generation. The change revolutionized the way football was played yet curiously enough took time to catch on. The change became a key component of the way Michel’s Ajax played and similarly set Arrigo Sacchi’s Milan apart from the pack but it was really not until the 1990’s that the tactic of pressing and squeezing the game high up the pitch fully caught on.

Off field innovations:

Yet Maslov’s innovations were not limited simply to on-field strategy, the masterful coach was also a pioneer in the field of sports nutrition and conditioning. Dynamo were noted for their superior levels of fitness under his management and, obsessive about even the smallest of details, Maslov introduced strict dietary plans to maximise the physical potential of his squad.

Legacy:

Maslov's 4-4-2, was later modified by Sir Alf Ramsey who dropped the wingers for additional midfielder (dubbed "Wingless Wonders")as the English lifted the World Cup in 1966.

Maslov’s tactic of pressing the opposition was later adopted by Rinus Michels as he built his all conquering Ajax of the 70’s and by Arigo Sacchi who used it to perfection in making his Milan the undisputed champions of the continent.

His tremendous work in the domestic scene of the Soviet Union reflected in the way the national team set-up. USSR implemented the zonal marking and pressing systems in their defensive play and are believed to be among the first ones to do so. Football aesthetics may point a finger at Maslov for stemming the attacking rendezvous of the late 50’s and early 60’s by the introduction of pressing the opposition but there remains little doubt that the Russian’s theories having survived the test of time, remain one of the cornerstones of modern tactical thinking.

Titbits:

Valeriy Lobanovskyi had been a talented left-winger, an individualistic player who ultimately fell out with Viktor Maslov, but went on to become a great manager of his own. He took Maslov's foundation and progressed it to perfection at Dynamo.
 
For the next draft, return of the GOATs?

I was hoping we would either do another all-time draft with this block list but have actual versus matches this time or do something like specific league. Too soon for another draft with all the same old GOATs IMO.
 
surely its time for the current bunch to get a run in.....
 
My suggestion would be 'Players born in the 60s/70s'
 
The ideas so far:

- Serie A 90s
- Auction Draft
- Monopoly

My suggestion (to be discussed if some interested): 'All League drafts'


Option A >>> In the starting 11, a max of 2 players per league,which could give something like that:

- Zlatan (Premier League): it would be a slow Zlatan version United, player to be judged on his perf with United
- Lampard (Premier League)
- Pedros (French league)
- Ouedec (French league)
- Guardiola (Serie A): would be a poor choice given his performances with Empoili
- Buffon (Serie A)
- ....

Option B >>> a minimum of 7 chosen Leagues in the starting 11
 
The monopoly draft is a great one.

My only concern is that the pool of available players is relatively limited: focus on some clubs/countries/criteria.

Some interesting players (not GOAT but not sheeps) don't tick the boxes.
 
Some interesting players (not GOAT but not sheeps) don't tick the boxes.
It's just a question of coming up with new criteria for the boxes. Nobody wants to see same boxes again, far less me.

It's quintessentially a criteria draft, and we are free to eliminate GOAT boxes and replace with more challenging boxes.

If you have any box criteria idea, pm me.
 
It's just a question of coming up with new criteria for the boxes. Nobody wants to see same boxes again, far less me.

It's quintessentially a criteria draft, and we are free to eliminate GOAT boxes and replace with more challenging boxes.

If you have any box criteria idea, pm me.

Good. Thanks
 
I'm in too

Monopoly with a 20-25 GOAT block list would be super fun!
 
I'm in too

Monopoly with a 20-25 GOAT block list would be super fun!

in current draft we had a block list, think it would be better if we bring GOATs back but with restrictions. Could have 2 spots on the table with double pools.
Spot 1:
GOD Goats(Maradona, Pele, Kaiser etc.),max 1 per team during the whole draft.
When you pick that player you have a second pool of players on that spot for the remaining process of draft - lets say players that are still active.
Spot 2:
Goats(Matthaus, Van Basten, Rio), max 1 per team and with the same solution, another pool/criteria after you get your first pick.

edit: im in as well, for anything :D
 
Monopoly - List

1. EAP
2. RT
3. Harms
4. Sjor Bepo
5. Oneniltothearsenal
6. Moby
7. Ecstatic
8. 2mufc
9. prath92
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Monopoly - List

1. EAP
2. RT
3. Harms
4. Sjor Bepo
5. Oneniltothearsenal
6. Moby
7. Ecstatic
8. 2mufc
9. prath92
10 Chesterlestreet
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