Next Draft - Ideas and Discussions

Gio said:
Would still like to do British football in the 80s though at some point if it’s not going to be next.

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There will be lots of overlaps to this draft. Maybe @crappycraperson can amend the criteria to 5 players in 80s, 4 players in pre-PL era and 2 open slots. Add in the 6 home nation players and it'll be challenging.
 
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Are we not doing the Pre Premier league draft anymore? There were quite a few people interested in that
 
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Indnyc said:
Are we not doing the Pre Premier league draft anymore? There were quite a few people interested in that
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That is a good point. I didn't realize this wasn't that one.

@crappycraperson I'd suggest you disallow any PL players at all. There was a lot of interested in the pre-PL draft and it really opens up the pool to make for a more original draft if we don't allow any PL players.

Let's take a vote? I say no PL players as originally suggested.
 
oneniltothearsenal said:
That is a good point. I didn't realize this wasn't that one.

@crappycraperson I'd suggest you disallow any PL players at all. There was a lot of interested in the pre-PL draft and it really opens up the pool to make for a more original draft if we don't allow any PL players.

Let's take a vote? I say no PL players as originally suggested.
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I don't want a draft without any PL players at all. At best there would be 3-4 player limit for PL but no less than that. It has been ages since we had a PL draft so I don't think there is any scope of repetition.
 
crappycraperson said:
I don't want a draft without any PL players at all. At best there would be 3-4 player limit for PL but no less than that. It has been ages since we had a PL draft so I don't think there is any scope of repetition.
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Ok but there was a big list of people that were interested in a draft without any PL players and that was supposed to be scheduled next.

I think this needs to be discussed and everyone interested in the non-PL draft expresses their opinion before you just go ahead with this.
 
Allow a few premier league players, maybe they had to have 100 appearances by 1997?
 
oneniltothearsenal said:
Ok but there was a big list of people that were interested in a draft without any PL players and that was supposed to be scheduled next.

I think this needs to be discussed and everyone interested in the non-PL draft expresses their opinion before you just go ahead with this.
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Yeah I’m easy to be honest but like you had thought the consensus for the next draft was BeforeKeanoRobbo’s pre-92 draft. I was pretty keen to get stuck into some of the 70s and 80s boys having had a couple of Prem drafts and an all-time British and Irish draft which had a big focus on the 60s and 90s boys. This is a good concept as well to be fair, so it’s probably worth a bit of discussion first before firing into it.
 
P-Nut0712 said:
I think it's supposed to be British, but if it's open to a vote I'd definitely prefer something else.
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There was a vote.... there was Pre PL and the Auction one. @Indnyc offered to run the Pre Pl one then it was decided to do then auction one first.
Indnyc said:
Are we not doing the Pre Premier league draft anymore? There were quite a few people interested in that
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We were.... there were....
 
Gio said:
Yeah I’m easy to be honest but like you had thought the consensus for the next draft was BeforeKeanoRobbo’s pre-92 draft.
Gio said:
Yeah I’m easy to be honest but like you had thought the consensus for the next draft was BeforeKeanoRobbo’s pre-92 draft. I was pretty keen to get stuck into some of the 70s and 80s boys having had a couple of Prem drafts and an all-time British and Irish draft which had a big focus on the 60s and 90s boys. This is a good concept as well to be fair, so it’s probably worth a bit of discussion first before firing into it.
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Me too.
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I am fine with dropping this one if you guys want to do your pre 92 one decided. I don't think we can do both of them close to each other anyway so decide amongst yourselves. Don't count me as a participant for pre-92 one though.
 
I think the pre 90's one should go first as it was agreed before. Crappy can run his after.
 
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3. Tuppet
4. Skizzo
5. Moby
6. Oaencha
7. Pat Mustard
8. RedRom
9. Charly
 
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These were the people that were interested in the Pre 92 draft. There are some overlaps so doesn't matter which one we run.

Since it was your idea, @BeforeKeanetherewasRobson do you mind if we play @crappycraperson version? We could alter it a bit to reduce the number of premier league players so it might work. If you want the pre 92 draft, i'll run it
 
BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
There was a vote.... there was Pre PL and the Auction one. @Indnyc offered to run the Pre Pl one then it was decided to do then auction one first.

We were.... there were....
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Yeah I know, but if the majority now want something different then surely you run with that.

Only way to decide is to have a vote after each draft and go with the majority.
 
Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Is the pool for a full pre92 interesting enough?

Crappys version seems more balanced with still many pre 92 can be picked...
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I think it depends on the DoB cut-offs. If we are purely looking at 1980s performances, I think that's challenging by the back-end of the picking. If we open it up to, for example, all players born in the 1950s and 1960s, or something like that (or everyone born after Best and before Shearer) then there should be plenty.
 
Gio said:
I think it depends on the DoB cut-offs. If we are purely looking at 1980s performances, I think that's challenging by the back-end of the picking. If we open it up to, for example, all players born in the 1950s and 1960s, or something like that (or everyone born after Best and before Shearer) then there should be plenty.
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Ahuh, I think I said players who'd played from 1980 to 1992... so you should get people born in the 50s (would be late 20s by 1980). Fine with amending it to players who played between 1972-1992, as long as based on performances in that period (i.e. you couldn't choose Best or Charlton.. unless you were happy to be judged on their performances then). But still Div.1 and Scotland.

(Edit, give me a chance to choose Buchan :drool:)
 
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BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
Ahuh, I think I said players who'd played from 1980 to 1992... so you should get people born in the 50s (would be late 20s by 1980). Fine with amending it to players who played between 1972-1992, as long as based on performances in that period (i.e. you couldn't choose Best or Charlton.. unless you were happy to be judged on their performances then). But still Div.1 and Scotland.
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Any love for extending the pool a bit more? I suggested this a while ago:

Pat_Mustard said:
Another British-Irish Draft would be good to do at some stage. I'd favour a date of birth cut off this time to avoid the more intractable problems in comparing across eras. I generally don't mind those discussions but it played a particularly prominent role in the previous British draft so there's little point rehashing the same stuff. Maybe players born post 1st January 1937, which would include Charlton but exclude Duncan Edwards.
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That would exclude most of the pre-footage players, and we co. We could have a date of birth cut off on the other end, say 1966, to keep out most of the players who peaked in the Premier League era too. That would hopefully allow for a decent representation of 80s players but the larger pool would keep things more interesting for those who don't have any particular interest in that era.
 
Whoever is running it should first make the criteria clear here.

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BeforeKeanetherewasRobson said:
As someone said above (and I've seen before), having a draft that doesn't start with the usual suspects would be a nice change and possibly get different drafters playing.

Such as players playing in the UK from May 1980 - May 1992 ....

A "Pre Premier League" draft but with focus on UK based players (NB - not necessarily UK players) so Div 1-4 and Scottish leagues but any nationality.

You'll still have some wonderful players.

(Edit - I'd volunteer to run it but would actually play this one)
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So, must be born between 01-Jan-1956 and 31-Dec-1968 to match the years and have played in any league in England and Scotland. Right?
 
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Edgar Allan Pillow said:
Whoever is running it should first make the criteria clear here.
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Original post was ....

"players playing in the UK from May 1980 - May 1992 ....

A "Pre Premier League" draft but with focus on UK based players (NB - not necessarily UK players) so Div 1-4 and Scottish leagues but any nationality."

Fine with extending era (per Gios comment). Originally chose about a decade after watching the Seria A draft but making it 1972-1992 works (actually brings in a few very good 70s teams and dozens more players). Don't want to go further - top end of snake get Charlton, Best and skew it, plus they've been done? So, it becomes....

"Pre PL Draft"

Players playing in the UK from May 1972 - May 1992 ....

A "Pre Premier League" draft but with focus on UK based players (NB - not necessarily UK players) so Div 1-4 and Scottish leagues but any nationality."

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Gio
Tuppet
Skizzo
Moby
Oaencha
Pat Mustard
RedRom
Charly

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Onenil
Raees
Sjor/TRoss
 
Count me out if we're going solely with the idea above.

I don't mind helping to do draws etc, but it's just not my era at all.
 
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