He’s the best left back in the league though and we get him for the same price as Walker. I don’t see the problem.
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He’s the best left back in the league though and we get him for the same price as Walker. I don’t see the problem.
Just go all out for Alex Sandro. 60m could get the job done.
Didn't work for Chelsea.
Buy Guerreiro
I said at the time when Rose spoke to The Sun that he would more than likely be sold, completely unprofessional but he always has had a bit of a mouth. No doubt he's a top LB but Poch places a lot of weight on personality and dedication, can very well see him happily letting him go, there has been rumours about Sessingon for a couple of windows now and we seem to have a decent history with Fulham to strike a deal.
Wish we'd go for Sessegnon instead of bidding 5x what you paid for him in five years time.
Rose makes sense though since we really need someone to just step in and instantly make the spot theirs, our options there at the moment aren't good enough.
We can go for a youngster for RB though, Valencia will need replacing soon and when he runs out of gas the youngster should be ready.
Apparently, City is after Ghoulam. How is it that City who have Mendy and have spent nearly 140m on fullbacks can get another quality fullback whilst we make do with Luke never fit Shaw and an assortment of out of position utility players. Surely if Ghoulam is moving on a free then shouldn't we be in for him rather than let City snap him up. All the other teams looking at Ghoulam already have good fullbacks and are just being greedy as they don't have a desperate need, unlike United. Also please don't sign Danny Rose the last thing the club needs is another overpriced injury prone English defender. There are tons of fullbacks in Europe that are cheaper and better than Rose. English players are poor value for money.
Cheaper, yes, but better? No.
I'd lose my shit if City replaces Mendy before we've sorted our LB spot.
Kieran Tierney?
If we cannot get hold of Ghoulam, then I would love to see us go for Tierney. I believe he can make the step up to United. He is a great young player.
Would rather give Mitchell a go at it.....
Rose is a good player no doubt but let's not say he's been a constant performer for a number of seasons because it's simply not true. Yes I'd say he's better than Davies, but he on,y really started performing after we signed Davies, of course I'd rather keep him as a happy player, but if Poch feels he has shit the nest I'd happily sell him. The little scrot had not killed a ball in six months but shot his mouth off, and not for the first time. £50-60 mill for a 27yo, I wouldn't blink an eye. Good player yes, dedicated? Absolutely not.
Rose when fit was the best LB in the league. His injury was severe but has he even had constant injury problems before it?
People saying Tierney when putting faith in players in that position is the reason we are in the position we are in now. No more dicking about in that postion, buy an established, experienced player. If need be buy a younger one like Tierney to replace him in a few years and as an understudy.
People saying Tierney when putting faith in players in that position is the reason we are in the position we are in now. No more dicking about in that postion, buy an established, experienced player. If need be buy a younger one like Tierney to replace him in a few years and as an understudy.
Tierney should be #1 priority.
Muppet maybe, but given Bayern would be looking to rebuild their team (especially on the attacking side), I wonder if a £60m+ bid for Alaba could work. Full backs are just as important as any other position in the modern game, so we should be targeting the best where possible.
If Walker is worth 50m then Alaba is worth 100+ easily.
Just saw Ferland Mendy for Lyon play for the first time. Defensively he didn't look as engaged as Mourinho would probably demand, but his 2 footedness, passing ideas and arrogance and quality on the ball just screamed top level footballer. Won a bunch of headers too, but up against the tiny Ronny Lopes so I'd say that's close to meaningless. Ligue 2 LB of the year last year, moved for 5M.
Mourinho did move Marcelo from winger back to his original left back spot right when he arrived at Madrid, so I don't think he's necessarily just looking for an Ivanovic type or whatever there.
Mourinho did move Marcelo from winger back to his original left back spot right when he arrived at Madrid, so I don't think he's necessarily just looking for an Ivanovic type or whatever there.
Well that was last summer, maybe we would have more luck next summer. Juventus lost two of their starting defenders in Alves and Bonucci, so selling Sandro too seem like a bad thing to do. They are more equiped to sell him right now, and for the right price? They will. The left back position is the main problem position in our team right now, which we all know -unless you have a soft spot for Shaw-. Its about time we solved that problem. City solved theirs and are repeaing the rewards, so, I don't mind splashing half of our transfer budget on Sandro; he's that good. The other half could go to a right winger.
In fairness city spent a lot on a very good left back but he has played 4 games and looķs to be finished for the season they will probably have delph there most of the season and they have looked just as impressive with him there so good though Mendy has been I'm not sure it's true to say city are reaping the rewards
Then we'd still be left fielding Mkhi or Mata all the time in the front 4, personally I'd spend big on the two attacking positions and look for Ghoulam, Jorge, Tierny or maybe even this Martin lad at half the price, kinda like when we got Bailly for £20M less than Stones and no one had really heard of him, great buy, we need to be shrewder than City who are just paying the extortion fee on every player.
never even heard of Tierney
Did I spell his name wrong or have you genuinely not heard of him?
There's been a lot of rumours about Ozil joining us on free. I'm all for it. We could spend big on a right winger, and that will make it two new attacking players. Its a shrewd move really, because a LB in my opinion is the position that mostly needs a new signing. Spending big there isn't really a bad idea. Ghoulam on a free will be great(he's argubably the second-best LB in serie A); Jorge is yet to really prove himself, and am not really convinced about Tierney; he looks like your typical british player, playing well in a lower league/team but would find the step-up difficult.
Fair enough, but i'm talking about both fullback positions. Mendy have been unfortunate but Walker has been great and Danilo not too shabby.
Hard to disagree with this because we need a couple of elite attacking players more than we need a world class LB imo looking at how we set up in the harder games. Griezmann plus a right sided attacker would set us up nicely.
it would have to be because I cant see anything else justifying £50m for Rose
That he is arguably the best left back in the league is justification enough. £50m for a prem proven, international footballer is pretty much standard these days, particularly since the LB position is somewhat of an issue for us at this point in time.
27 years old
Only managed to play over 25 pl games in a season twice (one of those was for sunderland)... and he has never managed 30 games in a season... literally you won't get 3/4 of a season out of him
Coming off (another) injury... and a bad one with no guarantee he will even be at the level he was at before and even then I'm not sure he is any better than Davies let alone worth 50 million
Mendy cost 50 million... Danny rose isn't Mendy.
Shaw was Prem proven.
I agree 100% with what you said. There is no way that an injury prone 27-year-old fullback is worth 50m. We could have got Ricardo Rodriguez for 16m last summer so Rose at 50m is poor value for money. Also dealing with D Levy would be an absolute nightmare!
Ive said this before but with Mourinho he has no chance
To me Ozil is another lightweight like Mkhi, a player that wont step up and take these tough games on in that pivotal #10 role. he'll be fine against the lesser teams like Mkhi, but not that big game upgrade we need IMO, and he'll want 250k a week, I'd rather get Ghoulam on the free for a third of those wages and plow the money into the #10 and RW.
The attack is where it's at in the game right now, since the MSN/BBC stuff top teams are looking to put elite talent in the 3 or 4 attacking positions. As for Griezmann, I'm not sure he's the ideal fit now we've got Lukaku, to me Griezmann is best with a #9 that acts as his feeder, he has played his best with Torres and Giroud who act as hold-up foils for his off the ball running, Lukau isn't great at this, he's better ruinning in behind and to me needs a #10 to feed him, kinda like his partnership with Barkley, someone that runs the ball and looks to play him in, obviously someone with a brain rather than Barkley, but you get the type I mean.
To be honest, that massive injury didn't help him either.
I don't recall his injury record being that bad prior to the damaged ligaments he sustained last year. I know he had some hamstring problems in the past but nothing serious, could be wrong of course. At the end of tha day Danny Rose is, or at least was leading up to the injury, one of the best LB's in the prem and he would be a huge upgrade on our current options in said position. There are no guarantees that he will return and perform to the same standard post injury, but for a player of his ability it's a risk worth taking. Just not sure Jose would agree being the pragmatist that he is.
Ben Davies has performed reasonably well but he's not a patch on Rose (not yet anyway). The latter is unarguably first choice for the Spuds.
Still hopeful on Shaw, although that hope is diminishing fast.
Shaw you lazy fecking twat
If Ghoulam becomes a free agent, many teams will definitely be after him. Chelsea, City, Pool, even PSG will need another LB, Juventus too, if Sandro leaves. There's no guarantee we will get him, and we have not even been linked with him.
There ain't much #10 out there better than Ozil(and he's completely different to Mkhi), and I can't think of an available
class #10 out there who deserve splashing the cash on. That's why I will like us to splash it on an LB(if Ghoulam is unavailable of course) and make the shrewd move of getting Ozil for free.
You are right, but its not just because of Lukaku; looking at our team right now, Griezmann's skillset is not what we're missing. What we're missing is a link between midfield and attack which is obvious when Pogba isn't playing and which was laid bare at Anfield. Pogba could do the job, but he plays too deep; Mkhitaryan was supposed to be the link but it's not his skillset. He loses the ball a lot, and is more of a final third player; futhermore, he's been dropping 2/10s lately. My point is, let Griezmann being a superstar not blind us from the fact he's not what we need.