Nemanja Matic| BBC says deal agreed

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I guess we have a move away will help him pull his finger out a bit and get back to his first season back at Chelsea level.
 
He'll start the season injured for one, and more importantly, we need at least 4 CM's for a season where we could potentially play around 60 matches. One big injury to one of Kante/Cesc/Baka and we'd be in huge trouble.
Or you could actually play one of your multi title winning youngsters. Just a thought...
 
He'll start the season injured for one, and more importantly, we need at least 4 CM's for a season where we could potentially play around 60 matches. One big injury to one of Kante/Cesc/Baka and we'd be in huge trouble.

Just seen that you have sold Nathan Ake as well (for 20m :eek:). I suppose you do need an extra midfielder with CL football back in to the fold and Fabinho would be a great option to replace Matic.
 
He's a fading 29 year old lumberer who will put Herrera in the same role as Carrick, needing to be his legs and do his running for him, I hope this is just media bullshit brought on by Jose whining last night.
 
I don't understand this situation at all. He's not even gone on their pre season tour, that's how much Conte wants rid of him.. And they're trying to get £50m off us?
 
He is so much underrated here it's ridiculous, really hope this goes through.

Good enough DM, but I am concerned about how much there is left in the tank, he is very slow and turns like a cruise-ship.
 
According to Wiki he doesn't turn 29 til next month.. How could he be physically shot already? Has he had injuries?

He isn't physically shot I guess, but he has always been on the slow side and with age that obviously gets more problematic.

Guess he has the positional sense and anticipation to compensate though if his only job will be to sit in front of the defence.
 
Could save a fortune and just buy Carrick one of those foot massage circulation things, that Ian Botham advertises, to get another couple of years out of him.
Unfortunately those things are now priced at £40m. :)
 
He is so much underrated here it's ridiculous, really hope this goes through.
I don't get it either. Would be a great signing, Mourinho wouldn't be after him if he didn't think he was capable of helping us win the league either... All because it's not Fabinho.
 
I didn't say we can't pay 50m, but at the same time we're only willing to pay for a player that deserves the price. We didn't pay for Morata but pay a similar fee asked for Morate to get Lukaku, because Ed viewed Lukaku to be worth the price while Morata not.

I find it hard we'll value Matic to be worth 50m, unless we have no other option.

Ah ok, well yeah I agree then, but that's the market we're in, If we want to buy someone from a rival, either Matic or Dier, then it's gonna be 40 or 50 million minimum
 
According to Wiki he doesn't turn 29 til next month.. How could he be physically shot already? Has he had injuries?
The physically shot comments are weird, a quick Wiki check shows he's only played 40 more club games than Lukaku and that number is smaller when you add international matches.
 
The physically shot comments are weird, a quick Wiki check shows he's only played 40 more club games than Lukaku and that number is smaller when you add international matches.

It can't really be explained by his age or miles on the clock, and yet when you watch him, he's obviously not the same player physically that he was a few years ago. Maybe it all stems from that Ashley Barnes horror tackle.
 
It can't really be explained by his age or miles on the clock, and yet when you watch him, he's obviously not the same player physically that he was a few years ago. Maybe it all stems from that Ashley Barnes horror tackle.
That'd be mental than physical.
 
The Matt Law has been changed twice very quickly, once Matic was taken out of the original headline, and now it doesn't even mention Law or Matic.
 
Could save a fortune and just buy Carrick one of those foot massage circulation things, that Ian Botham advertises, to get another couple of years out of him.
:lol: why not bring back Scholes from retirement.
 
Or you could actually play one of your multi title winning youngsters. Just a thought...
We sold our best one (Chalobah) and loaned out another (Loftus-Cheek). :(
 
That'd be mental than physical.

Yes possibly. He looks slower and is certainly much less aggressive/willing to use his physicality. Attempts fewer dribbles/aerial duels than he used to and loses the ball more-often on the occasions when he does. Less tackles too (although that one could partially be explained by Kante's presence). Overall, he's a player in decline, whatever the contributing factors.
 
50 million for a player that conte doesn't seem to have in his plans is madness plus he's 29ish. Think he would be a good signing thought.
 
We sold our best one (Chalobah) and loaned out another (Loftus-Cheek). :(

Duncan Castles suggested that Matic would not be permitted to leave until Chelsea had identified a replacement (on top of Bakayoko). Perhaps Conte is planning to trigger N'Zonzi's release clause or bring in Fabinho etc once it looks like United will meet the asking price for Matic (both players would likely be cheaper than the Serb).
 
Duncan Castles suggested that Matic would not be permitted to leave until Chelsea had identified a replacement (on top of Bakayoko). Perhaps Conte is planning to trigger N'Zonzi's release clause or bring in Fabinho etc once it looks like United will meet the asking price for Matic (both players would likely be cheaper than the Serb).
Can't imagine we'd go for such an expensive option.
 
Yes possibly. He looks slower and is certainly much less aggressive/willing to use his physicality. Attempts fewer dribbles/aerial duels than he used to and loses the ball more-often on the occasions when he does. Less tackles too (although that one could partially be explained by Kante's presence). Overall, he's a player in decline, whatever the contributing factors.
He massively underperformed in 15/16 just like every Chelsea player except Willian and improved the next, so I'm not convinced he's on decline considering he just improved. 3 at the back limits the need for a DM and Kante is also known for his off the ball and defensive abilities so his profile is no longer needed. I'm not the biggest fan of this transfer because I don't think he'll complement Pogba well since both prefer to be on the left side of midfield, but I can see him being a success at Juve who's been more impressive than any side in the PL for a while.
 
The Matt Law has been changed twice very quickly, once Matic was taken out of the original headline, and now it doesn't even mention Law or Matic.
That's correct, Telegraph have removed the snippet about Chelsea wanting £50m for him and us being close to signing him.
 
If we are gonna get fleeced I'd rather it was for Dier, I don't want either but Dier is much younger, more mobile, English and more agressive with room to improve where as Matic has already declined substantially.
 
The Matt Law has been changed twice very quickly, once Matic was taken out of the original headline, and now it doesn't even mention Law or Matic.
I wonder if that's because the Matic rumours simply weren't true, or whether releasing that information was embargoed until later tonight.
 
If we're signing him, he has to play in a three. I fear for him against mobile pressing teams.
 
I just want this or Perisic done so Jose stops moaning every time someone asks him about transfers.
 
Please let him not be the final signing of this transfer window! Dear Lord, please grant Jose Mourinho some discretion to remove the mental block that's preventing him to see other better options available in the market. Please.
 
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