NBA reg season thread (we don't care about the finals)

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Originally posted by RUDDY:
<strong>shaq owns you though</strong><hr></blockquote>

We have four players who can play on Shaq - Vlade Divac, Scott Pollard, Chris Webber and Keon Clark and I think Pollard is so much more toughened than last time round. No other team can boast of having such a quartet of big guys. And as far as I am concerned, it does not matter how much Shaq scores against us, because our offense can surely outscore the Big Daddy and his team.
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
<strong>yes

E.Snow is better than him</strong><hr></blockquote>

Who's playing on the Olympic team? I'm sorry, I did not hear??? Did I hear you say something? O yes, that's what I thought, it's Mike Bibby... ;) :D
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i know you like myself hate kobe the stat padder

but what are your views on TMAC?

now thats a great player,but still trails Iverson in greatness
 
Originally posted by RUDDY:
<strong>i know you like myself hate kobe the stat padder

but what are your views on TMAC?

now thats a great player,but still trails Iverson in greatness</strong><hr></blockquote>

The players I think cannot but be admired in this league are:

  • Kevin Garnett: This is player who dominates anyone he plays against. The most versatile player - he defends anybody, be it point guard, shooting guard, small or power forward, or even center. And the player who plays with the most heart. Give him a Jason Kidd as point guard, and someone let Wally Szczerbiak improve his temperament, and I believe this guy can outright win the NBA.
  • Tim Duncan: Another power forward in the mould of a Garnett. Almost the same attributes, but, I would rate Garnett higher, just slightly. There is talk of Jason Kidd maybe moving to the Spurs. That would quite a formidable partnership too!
  • Tracy McGrady: An amazingly talented player. A player woh also lacks a cast like Kevin Garnett. Seems to be able to score from anywhere. As talented as Kobe (the only thing about whom I hate is his attitude - cocky) and such a scoring machine. And with his kind of attitude, he would enter into my good books any time.
  • Allen Iverson: Great heart in this guy. Not the most talented player. But, he is surely the fastest on the court. And he is adding a team player aspect to his game that is very positive. One hell of a competitor. Gives everything he has every time.
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And then you have the Kings. No superstar, except for Chris Webber, maybe. But, everone gels into a team. Unselfish play, proved by the number of assists we have as a whole team. Players who don't mind having a time on the bench despite being of quality enough to start on other teams. This spirit that we find in the Kings is unparalleled in the NBA. And this spirit and the talent all through is what is going to carry them to a deserved championship.
 
How old is Nowitski compared to these other fellas?
 
So the big man has time. McGrady is 24 though - kinell. Iverson is nearly past it I see. Stop raving about him Ruddy you raving queen.
 
Originally posted by Dans:
<strong>So the big man has time. McGrady is 24 though - kinell. Iverson is nearly past it I see. Stop raving about him Ruddy you raving queen.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Well, in the NBA, you find players playing well over 30, unlike in football. And I would say that Garnett and Duncan still have easily 10 years in them like Karl Malone, if they keep themselves as fit as Karl Malone does.
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Originally posted by RUDDY:
<strong>you rate webber better than dirk?

nah i dont agree</strong><hr></blockquote>

<a href="http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_webber/index.html?nav=page" target="_blank">With these stas, I would say it is very close. </a>Call me biased, I think Webber is the better all round player with his APG. Gets his team mates more involved than Dirk. Webber is his team's general and quite an able one too! Leads his team in scoring, rebounding and assists. Now, that is class, surely.
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Originally posted by Vinay:
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<a href="http://www.nba.com/playerfile/chris_webber/index.html?nav=page" target="_blank">With these stas, I would say it is very close. </a>Call me biased, I think Webber is the better all round player with his APG. Gets his team mates more involved than Dirk. Webber is his team's general and quite an able one too! Leads his team in scoring, rebounding and assists. Now, that is class, surely.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Just choose the Dallas Mavericks as team and Dirk Nowitzki to have a head to head comparison and you will see what I am talking about.
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Chris Webber

2002-03 Statistics
PPG 23.0
RPG 10.5
APG 5.4
SPG 1.58
BPG 1.31
FG% .461
FT% .607
3P% .238
MPG 39.1

Dirk Nowitzki

2002-03 Statistics
PPG 25.1
RPG 9.9
APG 3.0
SPG 1.39
BPG 1.03
FG% .463
FT% .881
3P% .379
MPG 39.0
 
webber is a bitch with sitting it out though

if he cracks a toe nail he doesnt play

AI puts them all to shame hes a straight up baller
 
Originally posted by RUDDY:
<strong>webber is a bitch with sitting it out though

if he cracks a toe nail he doesnt play

AI puts them all to shame hes a straight up baller</strong><hr></blockquote>

Your opinion. I don't see Webber like that.
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Good victory for your Sixers, Ruddy. Let's say that when AI takes his game to that level, not anyone can really stop him. I think the Hornets showed quality, though, and barely missed going into a decider seventh game... It was a good series. And I believe that the winner of this series has the ability of going all the way in the East. But, the NBA finals itself is a no-brainer. You may as well give the trophy to the Western Conference right now. Whichever team makes it from there (I am feeling rather confident that's going to be the Kings) will dominate the final.
 
Hornets 103, 76ers 107

the semis baby

told you AI brings the A game we would we

45 points 7 rebounds 3 dimes for the little guy

no one better

KVH :eek: now thats a proformance 18/18

you you aint gettin close to AI
 
man he hits dagger shots

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Originally posted by Vinay:
<strong>Good luck to your team, Ruddy... TMac against Iverson in the Eastern semi-final maybe? ;) </strong><hr></blockquote>

nah im taking detriot in that one,thre on a roll

dans <img src="graemlins/lol.gif" border="0" alt="[Laugh Out Loud]" /> the mavs are choking

3-0 up to 3-3 you will be the 1st ever team in history to blow a 3-0 lead
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Nowitzki is definitely among the NBA's elite and unlike Webber, he's only going to improve since he's young.

IMO the best 12 in the NBA right now are:

1. Shaq
2. Kobe
3. McGrady
4. Duncan
5. Garnett
6. Iverson
7. Nowitzki
8. Ben Wallace
9. Jason Kidd
10. Webber
11. Pierce
12. Bibby
 
Originally posted by Raoul:
<strong>Nowitzki is definitely among the NBA's elite and unlike Webber, he's only going to improve since he's young.

IMO the best 12 in the NBA right now are:

1. Shaq
2. Kobe
3. McGrady
4. Duncan
5. Garnett
6. Iverson
7. Nowitzki
8. Ben Wallace
9. Jason Kidd
10. Webber
11. Pierce
12. Bibby</strong><hr></blockquote>

I would not contest that much, but, for me Garnett is number 1. And Webber, too, for me is above Nowitzki. Admitted that Nowitzki is still young, but, that does not prevent the fact that, at this time, Webber is better.
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he would have to get his team out of the 1st round before he gets near #1 spot

congrats dans that was a big effort
 
As long as Shaq is semi fit, he HAS to be #1. He is the single most unstoppable offensive option in the NBA.

Nowitski will end up being better than Webber.

No way Ben Wallace should be that high in the list.
 
Originally posted by sidsutton:
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No way Ben Wallace should be that high in the list.</strong><hr></blockquote>

Are you kidding me??!! There is no shot blocker/rebounder better in the league at the moment - He is averaging something like 20 rebounds a game in the playoffs for God's sake! That is no cheap achievement!
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Originally posted by Vinay:
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Are you kidding me??!! There is no shot blocker/rebounder better in the league at the moment - He is averaging something like 20 rebounds a game in the playoffs for God's sake! That is no cheap achievement!</strong><hr></blockquote>

he better get 20 fecking boards a game with him being a liability at the offensive end. Don't kid yourself. If Tim Duncan or Garnett or whoever concentrated solely on defence they would EASILY match Wallace's rebounding numbers. All Wallace does is stand around waiting for Billups or Rip Hamilton to shoot and then crash the boards. Imagine Duncan or KG having that freedom. When you are taking shots you can't go for the rebounds as well. As for no better blocker, Theo Ratliff might have an opinion on that.
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Theo swats it away better then big ben

think he had the most in the league

come back to philly Theo
 
Originally posted by sidsutton:
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he better get 20 fecking boards a game with him being a liability at the offensive end. Don't kid yourself. If Tim Duncan or Garnett or whoever concentrated solely on defence they would EASILY match Wallace's rebounding numbers. All Wallace does is stand around waiting for Billups or Rip Hamilton to shoot and then crash the boards. Imagine Duncan or KG having that freedom. When you are taking shots you can't go for the rebounds as well. As for no better blocker, Theo Ratliff might have an opinion on that.</strong><hr></blockquote>

And so you say that someone who has been the NBA's best defensive player for two years running now is not worth being in the top 10? But, why? Someone like TMac goes into the top 10 really only on the strength of his offense. He would not have anywhere the same kind of defense as Ben Wallace. I think Wallace excels at what he does and deserves to be in the top 10 quite easily...
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