NBA 2024-2025 ; Lakers Land Luka

RobinLFC said:
I could see how the bolded ones might be true. But there is currently zero evidence of that besides "this trade is batshit crazy", so it annoys me how 100% conviced people are of the collusion/conspiracy part, especially since more reasonable explanations are also not out of the question.

The outrage would also be not nearly as high if it wasn't the Lakers on the receiving end of it.
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Probably, its high because Lakers got such break through history for this or that reason. It would be interesting to see would same thing happen in different timeline where AD is in Toronto instead of Lakers.
 
R'hllor said:
Another thing, outside this reply, could Mavs offer few days ago super max? If so, wouldnt such contract increase its value due teams( or Lakers in current case) knowing that he is locked for 2+5 or w/e the number is?
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Not sure when they could offer him supermax but Luka's value would go up with it.

R'hllor said:
Probably, its high because Lakers got such break through history for this or that reason. It would be interesting to see would same thing happen in different timeline where AD is in Toronto instead of Lakers.
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No one is sending Luka to Toronto :lol:
 
R'hllor said:
Another thing, outside this reply, could Mavs offer few days ago super max? If so, wouldnt such contract increase its value due teams( or Lakers in current case) knowing that he is locked for 2+5 or w/e the number is?
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He was super max eligible, yeah - but I don't know if they could offer him a new deal at this point already. How would his value for the Lakers increase, do you mean long-term because he'd be on the super max already instead of a 3-year deal right now and then a new max contract based on 10 years in the league after that?
 
RobinLFC said:
He was super max eligible, yeah - but I don't know if they could offer him a new deal at this point already. How would his value for the Lakers increase, do you mean long-term because he'd be on the super max already instead of a 3-year deal right now and then a new max contract based on 10 years in the league after that?
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I mean similar how KD contract turned great after he extended because teams knew if they trade for him, they had him for X years, If Luka signed super max and then traded to Lakers, Lakers wouldnt think about him extending or not which increases value of that contract, you have no headache of thinking what would Luka do in few years, as of right now even its never gonna happen, Luka can decide to be free agent in what 2 years? and do w/e
 
RobinLFC said:
I could see how the bolded ones might be true. But there is currently zero evidence of that besides "this trade is batshit crazy", so it annoys me how 100% conviced people are of the collusion/conspiracy part, especially since more reasonable explanations are also not out of the question.
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I also find it surprising how people can be so against the thought of a conspiracy in this case. The NBA is a cartel run by super-duper-mega rich people, some (most? all?) with at best questionable morals.
 
Baneofthegame said:
The disrespect for AD in this thread is crazy, essentially treating him like some scrub, only player last year on both all nba teams, averages 25/10 and is one of the best big defenders in the league.

Not that I would ever make this trade if I was Dallas, because you don’t give up a generational talent.

Would love to of seen what other teams would of offered for him outside of picks.
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No disrespect for AD at all. Not even in the slightest. Great player.

You say it yourself - you would never make the same trade. "Oh, the disrespect"
 
R'hllor said:
I mean similar how KD contract turned great after he extended because teams knew if they trade for him, they had him for X years, If Luka signed super max and then traded to Lakers, Lakers wouldnt think about him extending or not which increases value of that contract, you have no headache of thinking what would Luka do in few years, as of right now even its never gonna happen, Luka can decide to be free agent in what 2 years? and do w/e
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Ah okay, in that sense - I don't think the Lakers have ever wondered whether a player wants to extend with them or not :lol: But fair enough yeah, just don't think Luka will run down his contract and then leave because he'd leave money on the table as well in such a scenario, no? I think he can sign a new one with the Lakers sooner and then be eligible for a new bigger contract earlier on as well.
 
Skåre Willoch said:
No disrespect for AD at all. Not even in the slightest. Great player.

You say it yourself - you would never make the same trade. "Oh, the disrespect"
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Of course I wouldn’t, not because of AD, but because Luka is a generational player who it would be hard outside of Wemby/Joker to get true value for.
 
RobinLFC said:
I could see how the bolded ones might be true. But there is currently zero evidence of that besides "this trade is batshit crazy", so it annoys me how 100% conviced people are of the collusion/conspiracy part, especially since more reasonable explanations are also not out of the question.

The outrage would also be not nearly as high if it wasn't the Lakers on the receiving end of it.
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Not convinced of there being collusion.

However this is sheer negligence, which should be a sackable offense.
 
RobinLFC said:
Ah okay, in that sense - I don't think the Lakers have ever wondered whether a player wants to extend with them or not :lol: But fair enough yeah, just don't think Luka will run down his contract and then leave because he'd leave money on the table as well in such a scenario, no? I think he can sign a new one with the Lakers sooner and then be eligible for a new bigger contract earlier on as well.
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Oh you :lol: but yea its not realistic scenario but you never know, positive stuff that brings LA and Lakers, there are some other thing that aint that pleasant, microscope is bigger, media applies more pressure specially if you act unprofessional etc.

With what/how you "said" thats bolded think best thing that came out as result of this trade is that now when Lakers fans write some crazy shit like Welcome to Lakers @X player, you cant call them out on it after this trade lul
 
altodevil said:
:lol: :lol: :lol:
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RobinLFC said:
Strongly disagree with that, not sure how he's "pretty far away from being the finished article for a top level contender" while he literally got his team to the Finals last season.

You mention OKC yet he beat them (largely the same team) handily in a 7-game series half a year ago while leading the series in points, rebounds and assists.
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Mind, there is a pretty good chance Lakers will win one or more rings in the Luka’s presumably long career with them and yet they are not in the best position to win it this year or next, also because of Luka’s minor-not-so-minor flaws as an athlete and a win-now player.
 
Bepi said:
Mind, there is a pretty good chance Lakers will win one or more rings in the Luka’s presumably long career with them and yet they are not in the best position to win it this year or next, also because of Luka’s minor-not-so-minor flaws as an athlete and a win-now player.
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He does not come into a team that's well-equipped for him to operate in or build to play to his strengths, that's for sure. I don't think anyone expects the Lakers to be ultra competitive this seasone either, and the next one will depend on roster development. I don't think the Lakers intended to do this move either, but when it falls into your lap (with or without collusion), it's just one of those that's too good to pass up on even if it means giving up on your current season.
 
I am here for the Lakers building Nico Harrison a statue actually
 
JPRouve said:
I hate you. :lol:
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I mean, maybe the Lakers don't win titles with Luka, so who knows

I get he's great and everything but the Thunder are a menace and SGA might be an even better player, Jokic is still Jokic, the Lakers don't have a ton of assets and have not been known for building championship caliber rosters around their superstars of late, and the NBA will be Wembanyama's league within the next 2 years

And that's just the West!


But it would be REALLY funny if they do win multiple rings and build Nico that statue
 
Sarni said:
It’s $219m over 4 years. He will probably sign for 3 and then use his 10-year eligibility to sing a supermax. He will make up the difference.
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Endorsements maybe. No way he’s making it up from his contract considering he needs to pay taxes now for home games.
 
elmo said:
Endorsements maybe. No way he’s making it up from his contract considering he needs to pay taxes now for home games.
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Speaking of taxes, Texas is like what 0% and you pay federal only and what % in LA?
 
I hate watching the NBA but I may have to try to watch a Lakers game, been a while but they were my first team. Back in the Magic days only the Lakers and Celtics were broadcast each week so those were your choices.
 
elmo said:
Endorsements maybe. No way he’s making it up from his contract considering he needs to pay taxes now for home games.
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Oh snap, forgot about that. Thankfully he’ll have more money than he’ll ever need, but that’s definitely a big advantage for Texas teams.
 
R'hllor said:
Anyone else watched Luka presser, he looks sad, understandable
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I remember watching an interview last year where he said that he loved living in Dallas. I think that it would be like Jokic and Denver or Gobert and Salt Lake City. Sometimes athletes love the place they landed in outside of the game.
 
elmo said:
Endorsements maybe. No way he’s making it up from his contract considering he needs to pay taxes now for home games.
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He will be down a good few million but it won’t be that huge… the $120m figure is just misleading as it’s comparing a 4-year contract with a 5-year contract, and by the time he gets to that 5th year he will most likely already have a new deal that’s paying him similarly as he’s almost certain to leverage the 10-year veteran extension.

Taxes will indeed set him back more.
 
Depends what long term is but it would be funny if he quits this summer, imagine the content

 
I was thinking Quentin Grimes was doing surprisingly well this season and would be more important without Luka :lol:
 
Davis had a $6 million trade kicker written into his contract with the Lakers, which essentially entitles the player to that amount of money if they are traded. It's a cousin to a no-trade clause (full no-trade clauses are rare in the NBA, only two active players have one), giving the player some level of compensation if their team opts to trade them.

Davis, speaking to the media for the first time on Tuesday since the deal went down, talked about his decision to waive the trade kicker. He told Tim Bontemps that he was trying to help the team by saving some money so they could continue to put forth a competitive team after losing a player as special as Doncic.
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Guess Davis is happy about the trade.
 
Saw someone said it out there, crazy shit but if you take all those recent emerging reports where they trying to paint Pelinka as some genius GM, that probably will have lifetime contract after this, so if you take those reports and combined them, they made it sound like Pelinka was grooming NIco during whole process.
 
JPRouve said:


I'm lost. :lol:
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They might value Max Christie that highly if they are okay with letting Quentin Grimes go, but a 2nd on top of that for Caleb Martin without another future 2nd? Yeah, they're giving up all of their future at this point.
 
Quick question as an outsider - do players have no agency in trades in the NBA? Couldn't Luka have just refused the move?
 
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