Curry has been hot and cold so far this season. Some stunning performances followed by some in which he's been completely ice-cold.
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I would normally agree but he had a really bad playoffs and had an expiring contract. I'm not sure they would have gotten much in return.
The real problem was the fact that they gave up as many assets as they did for him in the first place. Everyone imagainrd an MVP candidate level Paul George and Kawhi to be this generation's Doberman defensive duo. And while they've both been disappointing, Paul George has been shockingly bad.
It's Paul George and reputations matter a great deal in the NBA. There's no way he wouldnt have great value even with an expiring contract. I get what they were trying to do but they missed a key ingredient.
Guess who's disgruntled? James Harden. If Houston were to get a promise to extend from George they wouldn't taken the trade. George is also not a spring chicken so I'm sure he'd have taken an offer when it hit the table and not take chances in free agency.
Promises mean nothing, no one was going to trade for George and give valuable assets without the guarantee of a contract and a sign and trade wasn't an option. Also the Clippers don't have first round picks to give, OKC have them, so Harden wasn't an option at all for them, they also don't have interesting contracts to add in order to balance salaries and again they don't have the first round picks that would convince a team to take a bad contract.
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The media loves giving the Lakers shit about the AD trade, and to be fair I think they overpaid, but holy shit that trade looks good compared to the PG13 one.
Gallinari, Gilgeous-Alexander and 5 1st round picks. I rate PG13 but it was way too risky even though you kind of understand the logic, they assumed that Leonard was so good that it wouldn't matter when they have a ring.
I'd argue that his reputation was vitiated by the atrocious off-season that he had. In that series against Denver, he wasn't even a replacement level player, nevermind an all-star level player. He was genuinely hurting the Clippers and I think some of those performances would have hurt his value.
Plus his flaming of Doc, who is tremendously respected in the NBA.
The issue they had was that Kawhi had other options and it seemed like they could only get him if they got another star alongside him and PG made the most sense given that he was coming off a year where he was 3rd in MVP voting and it was well known he wanted to play in LA. The Clippers clearly decided to accept overpaying rather than risk Kawhi going to the Lakers and them remaining largely an irrelevance in their own city. It's like the Nets taking Kyrie to get KD or us taking Mkhitaryan to get Zlatan and Pogba but obviously so far it hasn't worked out and could end up being terrible for them in the long term unless they at least get to a conference finals.
The Lakers gave up a lot in the AD trade but it's one of those rare deals that was good for both sides, the Pelicans got loads back for a player who was clearly going to leave a year later anyway and the Lakers gave themselves another year of a superstar next to LeBron while LeBron is still elite. The difference with the PG deal is not only that AD is just a much better player but that he's younger so while the Clippers timeline is completely linked to Kawhi and PG, the Lakers will still be a force even as LeBron gets older as they will still have one of the top 5 players in the league for years to come.
Agreed. The Lakers definitely made the correct judgement. I hated seeing the young kids go as rooting for them was fun, but it was the right call. Besides, it is looking like Lonzo is just never going to take the next step and BI is a2nd or 3rd tier star. I am actually more pissed about giving up Thomas Bryant for nothing.
That being said, I am packing my bags and getting ready to join @Sean_RedDevil on THT island. That dudes growth in just a year is insane, and he is still younger than 41 players drafted this last year! With AD and the leagues next great player THT, the Lakers future looks good.
That was my point, the PG13 trade is directly linked to Leonard joining them. It's easy to understand why they did it but it was also easy to see how it could be a disaster. The good thing for them is that Leonard is only 29, they should be able to get picks and cap room for PG13 during the off season and there is a chance for them to find decent guards too.
That's right, and I completely forgot about that. It wasn't just a bad PR move; it seemed to be an attempt to deflect from the warranted criticism about his own play.
Doc Rivers wasn't the one shooting 4/17, 3/16, and 3/14 in three consecutive games against Dallas. And Doc Rivers wasn't the reason George shot 4/16 in the biggest game of the season including a pretty weird side-of-the-backboard one that encapsulated just how bad his playoffs were.
I just wish players would take responsibility for their own performances instead of throwing their coaches under the bus, at every turn.
I think last night he was too passive early on which let raptors set the tone with him off the ball. He then struggled to get into any sort of rhythm, he was being pulled and clawed at constantly, frustrating to watch as a dubs fan but some credit to Raptors managing to do it effectively and get away with it.
that said he still managed to draw a lot of attention to him, he always has that gravity, and especially in the second half our other players were missing some really open looks that you have to be hitting if your main outlet is shooting as poorly as Steph did.
Still if he’s going to have an off night on a night where we still win, probably not the worst time for it. Do need a little more consistency from him though.
that 4th quarter was tumescent though, felt like there were 9 minutes left for 20 minutes, man can the raptors players complain. Don’t think the “foul” to win it was much of a foul but oh well. Great defensive organisation by Draymond on their last play too
Our terrible offensive productivity has really hurt us. Our defence has been quite good this season, but the numerous missed shots and opportunities to earn points has really hurt us. It doesn't help that we have to be the away team for the whole season, but it sucks to see our starters and bench lose so much offensive output.
None of this really matters; this year was always going to be transitional, and I'm hoping that our younger players get more minutes (Flynn, Terence Davis, etc.). On the plus side, the fact that VanVleet and Boucher are performing so well means that they can be used as trade pieces to get some really good players in the near future (if required).
I was so surprised that Siakam didn't just drive in hard into the paint to look for a foul or a quick pass to the corner. He could have easily been whistled for a foul given what happened on the other end of the court if he attacked a relatively weak defender in Wiggins. Maybe the fact that the corner options got cut off left him in a rut and made him panic.
Siakam always plays so well against us. I actually think Wiggins has been better than I expected on D, he said himself after the game he needs to change the narrative about himself but I think he’s working on that. He’s hardly an elite defender though, fair enough. I was terrified he’d commit a stupid foul. I think Siakam was probably option 3 at best for that play.
I love watching this team though, we won’t win anything but I’m hopeful we can make the playoffs and have fun in getting there. A lot of heart in this team. Klay would make a huge difference
I really hope that the NBA doesn't go down the NFL route.
This seems like blind hope to me:
This seems like blind hope to me:
This is only going to get worse from here.
I agree, and it means that his contributions can't be simplified to just his raw stats. He makes things easier for everyone on his team by virtue of the spacing he provides. At his best, he is/was a human chest code.
In the 2015-16, his sheer dominance offensively almost defied belief. To lead the league in PER, lead your team to 73 wins, and dominate most games to the extent that you can take the 4th quarter off is remarkable.
Just not going the Raptors way right now. Two narrow losses back to back.
Suns got blown out by the Wizards.
Really not sure why Monty keeps insisting on 3s even on nights when it just isn't falling. We've Ayton, Booker and CP3 who can all kill it in the paint and get to the line.
Really not sure why Monty keeps insisting on 3s even on nights when it just isn't falling. We've Ayton, Booker and CP3 who can all kill it in the paint and get to the line.
I agree that extending was the only option for both parties imo, after the collapse in the Nugget series, his value was
THT has been fabulous, he still sometimes plays out of control when driving the lane, but I think if he carries on learning (LBJ was quoted as saying he’s a sponge in that regard) and improving on D, he has all the tools to be at least a decent starter in this league.
His wingspan and hands are ridiculous, like a guard Kawhi.
The media were all over the Lakers and particularly Pelinka at the start of last year running loads of stories about how inept we were, Rob didn’t know the cap, we got screwed in the AD trade.
Yet it was a trade you make 100/100 times without thinking, it was a shame to lose Ingram, but it’s returned at least one championship. So it’s a win no matter what happens.
I will wait with a cocktail for you on the THT Island
Good win for Sacramento tonight. Good job little fellas!
I'm there!
There’s not trying
There’s mailing it in
And there’s whatever Harden is doing right now
There’s mailing it in
And there’s whatever Harden is doing right now
What's going on with Houston? This isn't the same Houston we've seen over the last few years. It's not just that they're getting blown out here: they don't look bothered.
Kyrie Irving is one of the strangest athletes - personality wise - that I've ever seen.
There’s not trying
There’s mailing it in
And there’s whatever Harden is doing right now
So he's essentially demanding to be traded without handing in an official trade request.
I still think that when players do this, they lower their trade value and make it much more difficult for their GMs to find a suitable trade package for them, hampering their own hopes of getting traded.
I still think that when players do this, they lower their trade value and make it much more difficult for their GMs to find a suitable trade package for them, hampering their own hopes of getting traded.
He's so fat too.
Frustrating loss for the warriors especially with our upcoming schedule. Actually fell asleep at the end of 3Q, can’t handle those late night west coast games with early starts for work
from what I saw, another really good defensive performance from Wiggins; Oubre looked...better; Wiseman looked 19. We really, really missed Paschall last night. Oh well.
Really wish we had Klay, would stop this box +1 stuff.
from what I saw, another really good defensive performance from Wiggins; Oubre looked...better; Wiseman looked 19. We really, really missed Paschall last night. Oh well.
Really wish we had Klay, would stop this box +1 stuff.
Also think we need another, experienced, body at centre. Fair play to the Pacers for the comeback though, they had guys hitting shots last night I didn’t expect them to
Trade a headache away for another headache.
The Rockets will lose the Harden trade no matter who's involved unless Harden flops and falls off a cliff with his new team, but I don't know if I take this deal if I'm Houston.
Kyrie, as fantastic as he is to watch, is not a guy I'm dying to have as the centerpiece of my team. I'd prefer to watch his highlight reels on other unsuccessful teams, not mine.
Looking at his shape, that is the most likely scenario
I don't want to believe Harden has quit on the team, but that's more likely than him suddenly falling off a cliff.
I was hoping he'd give the team a chance properly but oh well, that's a pipe dream now.