NBA 2018-2019

Wasn’t really that close even though we hung around them all game long. We didn’t have an answer for Jokic tonight which isn’t surprising considering our center rotation.
 
Could Jokic even be better if he worked on his body or would that be counterproductive ? Either way, the man is a slick basketball player.

I don’t know, it’s sort of weird that a top 20 NBA player looks the way he does but it doesn’t seem to cause him any issues at all.
 
The Joker came to play. Such a crafty player, very impressive debut playoffs so far.

As for his physique, guys like Boris Diaw (during his Spurs' years in particular), Z-Bo, Charles Barkley and Shaq (especially late in their careers) didn't have the cut look to say the least, but were still productive. I read his diet consisted of a gallon of Coke a day when he lived in Serbia, and he lost 40 pounds when he got to Denver.

Not sure I would mess with it too much now, but I would definitely monitor it since carrying unnecessary weight could contribute to injuries and longevity issues as he gets older. Also, having watched Denver occasionally during the season, it looked like his conditioning could have been better, as he seemed to tire and labor late in games.
 
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I have a rules question if anybody can help. Yesterday the NBA released their last 2 minutes report for the Warriors and Rockets. In that report they stated that a correct non call was made against Draymond Green with 10 seconds to go defending James Harden since Harden initiated the contact made between the two and under normal circumstances the contact wouldn’t have occurred. My question to all is that if an offensive player deliberately makes contact with a defensive player shouldn’t that be an offensive foul? (Before anybody accuses me of bias against James Harden and the Rockets I’ve seen KD and Steph attempt the same manoevres and get away with it on numerous occasions). Obviously the refs in the game didn’t think it was offensive foul and then on re-scrutinizing it the NBA didn’t think so either. What am I missing ‘cause I’m obviously missing something? Thank you for any replies.
 
I have a rules question if anybody can help. Yesterday the NBA released their last 2 minutes report for the Warriors and Rockets. In that report they stated that a correct non call was made against Draymond Green with 10 seconds to go defending James Harden since Harden initiated the contact made between the two and under normal circumstances the contact wouldn’t have occurred. My question to all is that if an offensive player deliberately makes contact with a defensive player shouldn’t that be an offensive foul? (Before anybody accuses me of bias against James Harden and the Rockets I’ve seen KD and Steph attempt the same manoevres and get away with it on numerous occasions). Obviously the refs in the game didn’t think it was offensive foul and then on re-scrutinizing it the NBA didn’t think so either. What am I missing ‘cause I’m obviously missing something? Thank you for any replies.

There can be incidental contact without it being a foul.

1. Incidental Contact
The mere fact that contact occurs does not necessarily constitute a foul. Contact which is incidental to an effort by a player to play an opponent, reach a loose ball, or perform normal defensive or offensive movements, should not be consid-ered illegal. If, however, a player attempts to play an opponent from a position where he has no reasonable chance to perform without making contact with his opponent, the responsibility is on the player in this position.

The hand is considered "part of the ball" when it is in contact with the ball. Therefore, contact on that hand by a defender while it is in contact with the ball is not illegal.

https://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_a.html?nav=ArticleList
 
There can be incidental contact without it being a foul.



https://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_a.html?nav=ArticleList
I thought about “incidental contact” myself but in the report I believe it said that Draymond was not called for a foul because Harden initiated the contact himself. I suppose you could argue that even though Harden initiated the contact it wasn’t done on purpose so in that case incidental contact would apply. Thanks for the reply.
 


Brilliant :lol:

Woke up(:devil:) in time to catch the final few minutes of the dubs-rockets game 2. What happened to Harden's eyes?

(Also? KD is reaching LBJ's level of playoff unfairness)
 
Good win tonight again. Every time the Warriors got a lead though the Rockets seemed to come back. Managed to hold on.
 
Woke up(:devil:) in time to catch the final few minutes of the dubs-rockets game 2. What happened to Harden's eyes?

(Also? KD is reaching LBJ's level of playoff unfairness)
Was accidentally smacked across the face by a flailing arm from Draymond (though some might say he knew what he was doing). You could tell it affected him (squinted hard on free throws, and shielded his eyes from flashing lights), but produced a decent outing all things considered. Steph also dislocated his left middle finger while attempting a swipe.

Game wasn't really as close as the score suggests. GS consistently kept Houston at an arm's length distance tonight, and you felt they could always pull ahead when Houston got it to within single digits.
 
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Rockets just lost a game in which they made 44% 3's and none of the Warriors stars played that great. They are getting killed on the boards even though the warriors are playing without a Centre
 
Klay, Iguodala and KD's defense was key as well as Draymond's rebounding allowing them to overcome another poor shooting effort from Steph. For Houston Chris Paul just doesn't seem to be able to make the shots we're used to see him making, he missed what should have been some pretty easy ones at the rim. Still you'd expect Houston to be better at home.

Bucks showed up defensively. Going to be tough for them to win in Boston though
 
Also, it seems clear now that Draymond got Harden in the eyes on that play in the first. Harden flops alot and it's hard to have sympathy for him but it also seems to me that every year Golden State seem to get away with these type of dirty plays. Now maybe in this case it was accidental but with Draymond's history it's plausible that it was deliberate.
 
Was accidentally smacked across the face by a flailing arm from Draymond (though some might say he knew what he was doing). You could tell it affected him (squinted hard on free throws, and shielded his eyes from flashing lights), but produced a decent outing all things considered. Steph also dislocated his left middle finger while attempting a swipe.

Game wasn’t really as close as the score suggests. GS consistently kept Houston at an arm's length distance tonight, and you felt they could always pull ahead when Houston got it to within single digits.
Ive got admit I was nervous the entire time. To me it seemed every time the Dubs pulled away the Rockets would come back into it. I suppose it’s a matter of perspective because I was always fearing the worst.
 
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Klay, Iguodala and KD's defense was key as well as Draymond's rebounding allowing them to overcome another poor shooting effort from Steph. For Houston Chris Paul just doesn't seem to be able to make the shots we're used to see him making, he missed what should have been some pretty easy ones at the rim. Still you'd expect Houston to be better at home.

Bucks showed up defensively. Going to be tough for them to win in Boston though
Steph struggled tonight from 3 for the second game in a row. I guess you could postulate that the dislocated finger was a problem but personally IMLTHO it’s these stupid fouls he keeps getting. As a shooter you want to get into a rhythm and being dragged out of the game every few minutes because you keep fouling is definitely a detriment to his shot. STOP THE STUPID FOULS.
 
So much for Warriors being vulnerable. Can’t wait till KD leaves and the league is finally competitive.

The only team in the league I can see causing them trouble now are Toronto who have way more depth and could throw many different lineups at Warriors and see how it flies.
 
Ive got admit I was nervous the entire time. To me it seemed every time the Dubs pulled away the Rockets would come back into it. I suppose it’s a matter of perspective because I was always fearing the worst.
It very well could have been different for a person with vested interest in either team, but as a neutral, I never felt Houston was a serious threat to GS tonight. To me, it just felt like GS could go on a mini-run and expand the lead as needed when they felt Houston was getting too close. The Rockets cut it down to three at one point in the middle of the 4th, but GS got it back to double-digits and never looked back. It looks like you'll get one in Houston and close it out game 5. If you get game 3, I would expect a sweep. Last season was the golden opportunity for the Rockets.
 
So much for Warriors being vulnerable. Can’t wait till KD leaves and the league is finally competitive.

The only team in the league I can see causing them trouble now are Toronto who have way more depth and could throw many different lineups at Warriors and see how it flies.
I really don’t think the Warriors are anywhere near a shoe in to win it all. I don’t think they have played particularly well against the Rockets and the only reason they have a 2-0 lead is that the Rockets have been worse. I think if Houston can win game 3 then the series is definitely alive. As to teams from the East that can challenge them I still think the Bucks could be very dangerous especially if Malcolm Brogdon is back. They are a team that is very “long” and I’m not sure if the Dubs match up that well with them.
 
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Warriors laughing at the critics who got giddy about them getting beat by the houston rockets.
 
I really don’t think the Warriors are anywhere near a shoe in to win it all. I don’t think they have played particularly well against the Rockets and the only reason they have a 2-0 lead is that the Rockets have been worse. I think if Houston can win game 3 then the series is definitely alive. As to teams from the East that can challenge them I still think the Bucks could be very dangerous especially if Malcolm Brogdon is back. They are a team that is very “long” and I’m not sure if the Dubs match up that well with them.

Warriors will comfortably win at least one of the next two and then close this out at home. Probably going to be gentlemen's sweep.
 
I really don’t think the Warriors are anywhere near a shoe in to win it all. I don’t think they have played particularly well against the Rockets and the only reason they have a 2-0 lead is that the Rockets have been worse. I think if Houston can win game 3 then the series is definitely alive. As to teams from the East that can challenge them I still think the Bucks could be very dangerous especially if Malcolm Brogdon is back. They are a team that is very “long” and I’m not sure if the Dubs match up that well with them.
Meh, Dubs will sweep everyone if motivated.

They only look beatable in the normal season because everybody on the team knows the real work starts in the playoffs.
 
Seems like this is gonna be a sweep or a 4-1.

Warriors have an all star calibre of player injured, and a top 5 player not being great, and are still able to win these games. If KD continues, they can win 5 in a row or so.
 
Seems like this is gonna be a sweep or a 4-1.

Warriors have an all star calibre of player injured, and a top 5 player not being great, and are still able to win these games. If KD continues, they can win 5 in a row or so.

He can't continue. He cannot have an asterisk over every single title he wins because of the decision he made in 2016, despite being comfortably the best player in the league right now he's hardly recognized as one and you can sense it's frustrating for him.

He has to go to the Knicks, that's the only way he's going to build any sort of legacy. He can win 10 titles in a row with Golden State and people won't care because he took the easy way out.
 
Meh, Dubs will sweep everyone if motivated.

They only look beatable in the normal season because everybody on the team knows the real work starts in the playoffs.

They did lose twice to Clippers but that series also never looked like it was going to end any other way.
 
He can't continue. He cannot have an asterisk over every single title he wins because of the decision he made in 2016, despite being comfortably the best player in the league right now he's hardly recognized as one and you can sense it's frustrating for him.

He has to go to the Knicks, that's the only way he's going to build any sort of legacy. He can win 10 titles in a row with Golden State and people won't care because he took the easy way out.
Or he could go to the much readier Clippers, Nets or -don't ever let this happen- Celtics
 
He can't continue. He cannot have an asterisk over every single title he wins because of the decision he made in 2016, despite being comfortably the best player in the league right now he's hardly recognized as one and you can sense it's frustrating for him.

He has to go to the Knicks, that's the only way he's going to build any sort of legacy. He can win 10 titles in a row with Golden State and people won't care because he took the easy way out.
History will be nice to him with all the FMVPs he'll win. He is actually considered the league's best player, and is clearly Dub's best player and leader when playoff comes. When Dubs are in trouble, the strategy seems to be give the ball to him.

Does LBJ has two asteriskes for Miami wins?
 
Also, why it need to be Knicks from all teams? A terribly run franchise who aren't even a playoff team. Joining them makes as much sense - legacy wise - as LBJ joining Lakers.

If he wants money and titles, it has to be Dubs (they can offer super-max and he likes to invest on It sector). For legacy, winning with his own team, then Clippers or Celtics make sense.
 
History will be nice to him with all the FMVPs he'll win. He is actually considered the league's best player, and is clearly Dub's best player and leader when playoff comes. When Dubs are in trouble, the strategy seems to be give the ball to him.

Does LBJ has two asteriskes for Miami wins?

Miami were never as stacked the dubs. KD joined the team with a 73-9 record who he had 3-1 down.
 
Or he could go to the much readier Clippers, Nets or -don't ever let this happen- Celtics

Unless Horford opts out, they somehow manage to trade Hayward and don't re-sign Kyrie, there's no way for Celtics to sign KD. All of this is extremely unlikely to say the least.

I don't think Nets are on the table here. Clippers do have an outside chance, they are a very well run organization, have given a great account of themselves this season, have one of the best coaches in the league and by far the best executive in the league in Jerry West. They will be able to accomodate two max free agents and another $10million per year player if they just trade Gallinari without taking substantial salary back, which after the season he had should not be an issue at all. They won't even need to attach a pick and I think they could even get one in return.

I think Kawhi is likely to go there, and playing with him + a great core of young players they have must be seen as a good prospect by anyone, honestly. They could go and re-sign Beverley on a team friendly deal and could potentially have something like:

SGA / Shamet / Kawhi / Durant / Brook Lopez

With Beverley, Williams, Harrell, Zubac coming off the bench, and four picks in the next two years including a potentially great Miami pick in 2021... they're the perfect rebuild right now.
 
the astericks thing is stupid. Durant is the leader on this team, he's their best player. doesn't matter how good they were when he arrived - just shows you how good he is that he can join a team that was already elite.... and become their best player.

that said he should leave for the sake of the league.
 
Also, why it need to be Knicks from all teams? A terribly run franchise who aren't even a playoff team. Joining them makes as much sense - legacy wise - as LBJ joining Lakers.

If he wants money and titles, it has to be Dubs (they can offer super-max and he likes to invest on It sector). For legacy, winning with his own team, then Clippers or Celtics make sense.

He can't go to Celtics. Knicks play in a huge market, they've not won anything and if he manages to get them to a level where they can win things, he will be loved again.

He's already moved away some of his investments from Bay Area, he's sold the house, he's leaving. He'd basically ruin his entire reputation by staying any longer.

Knicks aren't really in a bad situation. They can sign two max free agents, they have some decent young players and a number of valuable picks + will likely get a top 3 pick this year as well. That's a foundation they can build on and become good.
 
the astericks thing is stupid. Durant is the leader on this team, he's their best player. doesn't matter how good they were when he arrived - just shows you how good he is that he can join a team that was already elite.... and become their best player.

that said he should leave for the sake of the league.

It's not stupid. The guy went to a 73-win team that beat him the season before after he was 3-2 up and leading by 10 or 11 in the final quarter but couldn't close out. People were calling him a chocker so he went and joined a team he knew 100% he was going to win titles with.

He's a great player of course but also a massive coward for making that move. Proper great players want to beat the best, build their own teams and have some legacy, not join a team that is already by far the best and ruin the competition.

He's hugely insecure though, been clear for a while.
 
It's not stupid. The guy went to a 73-win team that beat him the season before after he was 3-2 up and leading by 10 or 11 in the final quarter but couldn't close out. People were calling him a chocker so he went and joined a team he knew 100% he was going to win titles with.

He's a great player of course but also a massive coward for making that move.

it doesn't matter, he's contributed more than anyone on the warriors to the titles he's won there.

i agree he took an easy way out, but it's not like he's some ring chasing vet at the end of his career, like Malone to the Lakers. he's their best player. he's clearly and obviously regarded as the best player in the league right now.