NBA 2018-2019
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That’s a brilliant deal for Bucks. Got rid of $20million in salary in 2019-20 and it only cost them one pick.
Lakers aren't trading for AD.
Aldridge needs a face punch
I’m almost 100% convinced they will try. This way they would still be able to add another player in the offseason. If they try to acquire Davis via free agency in 2020 (I don’t know if that is what you are suggesting will happen) they risk that a) Celtics will trade for him before then and he will stay with them, b) they don’t have enough cap space to add another player so are left with LeBron, AD and their current young players (though then it would maybe be better to have all of Ball, Kuzma, Hart and Ingram developed than get rid of 2 or 3 of them and replace them with 1 star now).
Just watched Dallas' game. Luka Doncic is already a veteran. Don't remember the last time I saw a rookie doing that in the final moments of the game.
Luka is incredible. And the thought he will just get better and better is scary.
Dallas hit the goldmine with his pick.
Dallas hit the goldmine with his pick.
He was traded for Trae Young. 
He was the Euroleague MVP!
He was traded for Trae Young.
They also have the future first-round pick, so not all bad.
Sheer stupidity considering Doncic potential imo.
I know. But he is also just 19.
Kind of crazy how there was less hype on him this year than in Lonzo and Fultz last year. He is already a better player than either of them will either be.
Luka is crazy, will rule the league after lebron imo. And his song isipretty funny too
Watching Bucks-Raptors, nice to see 2 good teams playing some defense.
He was traded for Trae Young.
They also have the future first-round pick, so not all bad.
Sheer stupidity considering Doncic potential imo.
Young will come good you'll see
. It will likely still be a bad-ish trade if the mavs make the playoff thoughYoung will come good you'll see
Probably. Still, Doncic is not only a franchise player, but has the potential for league MVP in the future. You just shouldn't miss on that.
King should have taken him at #2 anyway.
Phoenix should have taken him at #1.
Agree completely. I still think Ayton will be good, but Luka looks like he's on another level entirely.
Steph is now leading the league in points scored. Not eligible for award considering that he has missed more than 30% of games, but he is recovered now so soon he will be officially leading the league in points scored.
Considering how good he is playing and how Dubs are playing with and without him, he should definitely be in the conversation for MVP. He probably won't get it cause he has 2 MVPs already and it has become fashionable to dislike Warriors and belittle their players (have seen some pundits putting Steph outside of top 5 players in the league, or claiming that Leonard is better than KD and Giannis and AD are as good as KD), though all things being fair he should be in conversation. He is having his best regular season since he was an MVP. For stats lovers, he has a +- of +10.1, compare it to Davis + 5.5, Leonard +7, Giannis +9.7, Durant +7, James +2.8, and Harden -0.6. Yet all of them bar possibly KD seem more likely to get the award than Steph.
Considering how good he is playing and how Dubs are playing with and without him, he should definitely be in the conversation for MVP. He probably won't get it cause he has 2 MVPs already and it has become fashionable to dislike Warriors and belittle their players (have seen some pundits putting Steph outside of top 5 players in the league, or claiming that Leonard is better than KD and Giannis and AD are as good as KD), though all things being fair he should be in conversation. He is having his best regular season since he was an MVP. For stats lovers, he has a +- of +10.1, compare it to Davis + 5.5, Leonard +7, Giannis +9.7, Durant +7, James +2.8, and Harden -0.6. Yet all of them bar possibly KD seem more likely to get the award than Steph.
Paul George has it wrapped up so it is pointless to discuss.
Is there actually any doubt that the only true MVP in the league is still, and has been for the past decade, LeBron James?
The Cavs went from best to worst with and without him. The Lakers went from one of the worst WC teams to a top 5 team and will probably get better as the season goes on.
The Cavs went from best to worst with and without him. The Lakers went from one of the worst WC teams to a top 5 team and will probably get better as the season goes on.
It depends how you define MVP really. If you believe MVP = best player in the league then it is LeBron. If you define it as best player in the regular season then it is not LeBron.
I define it how it's called - the player who's most valuable to his team. Take Curry away from the Warriors and they still rack up 50 wins. Take James away from the Lakers and they finish bottom 3 in the West, and evidently take him away from the Cavs and they go from best to worst in the East - it doesn't get more obvious than that. I think the top 3 at the moment is James, Giannis, Leonard.
I'd have Davis MVP by that definition. Pelicans would be dreadful without him.
James hasn't been the best player in the league during the last decade, if you consider only regular season. If you add playoffs then he should have got 10 MVPs or so, but not if you consider only the regular season.
MVP isn't for the best player in the league though.
Over the past 10 years....given their influence and performances, I'd only give Curry and potentially Harden MVP's over LeBron. But probably not even Harden. Kobe was an overdue award, Durants was for sustained consistency and Lebron boredom(you know like how Messi can finish 5th in Ballon d'Or) Westbrooks was for an triple double, Harden and Rose because they were the standouts on the best regular season teams, although in Harden's case, the Rockets were probably the best overall team without a perfectly timed CP3 injured giving the Dubs their opening.
Curry definitely though. Game changing player, probably the third biggest influence from a playing perspective in my lifetime - after Jordan and LeBron, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm saying he's 3 by the way. But that influence has changed a lot while winning.
Curry definitely though. Game changing player, probably the third biggest influence from a playing perspective in my lifetime - after Jordan and LeBron, that doesn't necessarily mean I'm saying he's 3 by the way. But that influence has changed a lot while winning.
The Dubs might rack up 50 wins without Curry although that is debatable since they are 5-6 without him this season, but what you are missing is that they go from possibly the best team of all time with him to "just decent" without him. The Lakers on the other hand won 35 games last year and since 3 of their top 6 players (by minutes played per game) are now in their second year instead of rookies it wouldn't be unreasonable to expect them to have won 40 games this year if LBJ wasn't there. LeBron as usual is playing great and is giving you 28-7-7 but those numbers are what he always gives his teams since his career averages are almost identical at 27-7-7. What Stephen Curry is doing this year is transcendent. The Dubs are 14-3 with Curry and 5-6 without. He is leading the league in 3 pointers made at 91 AND is also leading the league in 3 point percentage (50%) - that is unheard of. He is also leading the league in true shooting percentage, and offensive box plus/minus, this latter category standing out since 6 of the last 7 players who have led the league in that area have won the MVP. He has also scored 30.1 PPG which is also the best in the league.
LeBron, Giannis, Kawhi have all been great this year. Steph has been better.
Curry is ridiculously overrated.
Opinions, eh? I would call him underrated if anything.
He's not rated highly enough actually. He's massively responsibly for changing the game, how many others can you name who have done what he has done? You go anywhere......forget the NBA, the Curry influence is there, he's obviously not alone in it, but he's the key factor behind how the game is being played on a worldwide scale right now.
Yeah, and despite that, he continues to be the best at it. He's immense.
Yeah, and despite that, he continues to be the best at it. He's immense.
Probably both on his career. Remember a few years ago when people were saying that he is as good as Jordan, as good as LeBron or even better than LeBron, all ridiculous things to say. At the same time, you see people putting Kawhi, AD and the Greek Freak ahead of him which is laughable for the last two. I mean, you can make an argument on Kawhi's favor cause of his defense, you can make an argument that KD is better than Curry cause of his consistency and playoff performances. However, no change that Curry isn't a top 5 player, and you can easily put him as high as No.2.
He is also the best attacking player in the game. When he goes nuclear (and he goes very often), the entire Dubs team goes batshit crazy and destroys the opponents. Those 2-3 minutes that they had in 3rd quarters quite often are mostly because of Steph.
That is also not taking into account his influence. He kind of changed how the game is played, a bit similar to how Shaq changed it. Even more influential than LeBron in that aspect.
I don't subscribe to this "he changed the game" narrative. He's the best shooter of all-time, but nobody batted an eye until Kerr made the Warriors perimeter offense actually succeed. If there was no Klay, Curry would't have nearly as much success or impact as he supposedly does today. Lebron, Jordan, Shaq, Bird all would have. Maybe even Durant, even though I dislike him as a person.
I doubt that.
What on earth makes you think they'd be OK without him? Their defensive rating is bad with him, without him they drop off a cliff.
I like Toronto disposing of Warriors so easily without even needing Kawhi’s contribution. Maybe they can turn the corner this season.
They would be a 20-win team without AD. Holiday is their second best player and if he becomes your best player you are a bit screwed.
Probably hurts his MVP candidacy in a way. It'll be interesting to see how this narrative plays out. They've won far more than they've lost with him out.
He has no chance to be MVP anyway IMO. I will be shocked if anyone other than Giannis wins it.