You do know that Vagina face was a ball-hogger without even the slightest idea of what defense means when he was still with the Thunder, a team that was on par with the Spurs, if not downright better at times?
NBA 2016-17
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You do know that Vagina face was a ball-hogger without even the slightest idea of what defense means when he was still with the Thunder, a team that was on par with the Spurs, if not downright better at times?
Vagina face 
This Spurs team has had to work really hard to win their games recently. They remind me a little bit of last years Warriors in that they're winning all the close ones. However, (as I pointed out earlier) this is not a young team and I fear that may run out of gas when it comes to playing good teams on a nightly basis in the playoffs. If they are going to knock off the Dubs I just hope they have enough left to win out. It is virtually certain they would face the Cavs in the finals and I just don't see that ending well because one team will be relatively fresh while the other will be on its last legs. I don't think I have to point out which is which.
Spurs do have the superior coach, and more experience on their side too which could work in their favour. It would be nice to see it happen, but I have a feeling that the teams in the finals wont be Cavs v Dubs, I wouldn't be surprised to see at least one surprise team make it to the finals.
The Rockets have no one to rebound and their defense apart from Ariza and Bev is horrible.
I really don't understand why you have the need to insult him? He is playing at a very high level right now at least respect that! his team is fecking 3rd with him as the only star of the team.
And hence, no mvp. Far too low key for the league to make him that.
Better player, no question.
He isn't really a bad defender, he takes 2-3 defensive positions off a game because he carries the team offensively, I doubt people who say that his defense sucks watch actual games not only highlights, he is by no means a great defender but he is an okay defender at worst.Vagina face
As for Kawhi winning MVP, if any player is wining it other than Harden thos year it should be him.
I don't think the Rockets would be anywhere near the team they are without Harden, however if they got a half decent point guard who could get the ball to Anderson, Gordon and Ariza they'd still be a force offensively and losing Harden is not exactly a blow on the defensive end. Patrick Beverly in his own right is a very good defender. Thus while not as good, all things considered, I don't think there's any way they are close to a lottery pick without the bearded one.
You are way overrating their offense, Ariza, Bev, and Anderson are very streaky and undependable, Capela and Nene get all their points through Hardens assists, Dekker and Harrel are also very very inconsistent, Lou William has only been there for 4 games before him there was Brewer who was a negative on both side of the floor.
You're a Rockets fan and you watch them way more than me so if you honestly believe that I suppose I should bow to your superior knowledge.
I do believe they are very capable offensively but outside of Harden and Gordon and now Williams there's no one who is capable to contribute consistently.
Dude Spurs ars obviously better but Rockets aren't half as bad as you think.
Besides in Houston everything goes through Harden, whilst Spurs are always more team oriented.
And when you're a standout in Pop's team it tells a lot.
Also Kawhi's contribution is on the both ends, he's massive both in offense and defense.
I'm not saying Kawhi isn't a great player, all I'm saying is that you are underestimating Harden's effect he himself had a very solid game last night with 39 points and 12 assists with a very good shooting % and the Rockets lost only by 2 points albeit by some great effort by Kawhi in the final stretch of the game.
Yeah, and fact that I like the most about Kawhi is that he's contributing on both ends.
He's massive both defensively and offensively taking them clutch shots. Also he's on 2 turnovers per game which is crazy low considering his offensive numbers.
Think the biggest thing going against him in MVP talks is that he isn't flashy enough, not playing like a superstar like Russ, Harden and James.
He's in Pop's team after all.
EDIT: Also he's constantly improving every season.
I know you aren't and I'm not saying you are. Just that Harden is start-all end-all player in his team, everything revolves around him, whilst in Spurs it's more team oriented, ball must flow so it's harder to standout.
Harden is a massive player definitely and he's making Rockets lot better than they really are.
But Kawhi is more of a complete player IMO.
Yeah I do agree with Kawhi being a more complete player.
This. If he had a narrative like Russ he'd be a clear favourite.
I mean, while that is true it is not like they are bad players. There are players on the other MVP candidate teams who are younger but clearly inferior to those guys.
You're right they are not bad players but the point is that they are nowhere near the players they once were. The biggest plus they have these days is their experience. There is no way this team should be close to 40 games over .500. The Spurs have one true superstar and unlike so many others he is maximizing his team mates current abilities. Almost like.... what's the term I'm looking for - an MVP.
Westbrook with 58 points last night and they still lost. Adams got 4 points and 3 rebounds, what the hell is going on with him? He looked like a potential star at the beginning of season and he was eaten alive by Nurk last night.
Westbrook made 39 attempts last night, rest of the team combined made 46, could be not enough distribution. Haven't watched the game myself, tho I agree Adams dropped significantly.
The real issue was the defence, it has just been absolutely abysmal lately. Largely because Adams has been awful and he is the defensive anchor for the entire team. On the recent road stint Westbrook even started trying harder defensively but that didn't help because the rest of the team slipped. Spurs at home next...just what you want when you're trying to break a four game losing streak.
The coaching has also been really bad. At one point Donovan had a line-up that didn't consistent of at least one of Oladipo, Kanter or Westbrook. Which is just suicide.
The coaching has also been really bad. At one point Donovan had a line-up that didn't consistent of at least one of Oladipo, Kanter or Westbrook. Which is just suicide.
Dirk reached 30k last night. With his signature shot as well.
Seems to be one of the truly nice guys in sport. Was glad to see him do it.Dirk reached 30k last night. With his signature shot as well.
Top 20 all time.Dirk reached 30k last night. With his signature shot as well.
Don't know about that.
Don't know about that.
Don't know about that.
He is...At the bottom of the Top 20, but he's there. Google just about any top 50 nba list - and he's in the top 20 in the vast majority.
- Greatest European Player ever
- He changed the way big players are looked at and the way the game is played. KD's game seems 'normal' because Dirk/KG shone the path for him.
- League MVP 2007
- Finals MVP 2011
- 13 time All Star
- 4 time All NBA
- 12 consecutive years averaging 20+ points (career average of nearly 22 ppg) - that average rose to 25 in the playoffs and 10 rebounds!
- Career shooting percentage of 47% - which is awesome for the type of player he was
- 6th highest scorer in NBA history
This was put out by CBS Sports last month. 50 greatest NBA players of all time. They have Dirk at 17. He is 2nd highest active player behind LeBron.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/c...ayers-of-all-time-where-do-lebron-curry-rank/
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Agree with Dirk being a top 20 of all time. Also, he is the second/third best power forward of the last 15 years.
Warriors so shit...turnover after turnover.
Celtics scrappy as hell and deserved the big win on the road
Celtics scrappy as hell and deserved the big win on the road
I actually don't think it is unless Pop decides to rest his guys. I think the number 1 seed is all but gone for the Dubs. This is what I wrote the day after KD went down.
What has surprised me the most is that in that the two losses they've had since KD went down its the offense that has suffered the most. They managed to keep both the Celtics and Bulls under 100 points yet scored their lowest point total of the season against Chicago and then managed to beat (???) that tonight.
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He rested Kawhi and Aldridge tonight, Man Utd showed up big and they got the win - after being down by a ton early on
They play the Thunder tomorrow
. Was hoping they would get rested then, oh well.Kawhi's MVP chances increase if Spurs can get the #1 seed too, which is looking very likely.
Spurs gonna get the first seed. Dubs look awful without Durant. I expected their game to suffer, but not at this scale. FFS, they have 3 other all star players but they're playing like a pub team.
Still think that if Durant is fully fit for the playoff, they will win the ring, but if not, they are in deep trouble. Even Thunders might eliminate them.
Still think that if Durant is fully fit for the playoff, they will win the ring, but if not, they are in deep trouble. Even Thunders might eliminate them.