NBA 2016-17

The only way Klay's getting traded is if they secure an elite big man. They're dreadful guarding the post without Bogut.
 
Why are there Klay transfer speculations? He has not shot well but i think he has been getting to take his shots. Just his shooting has been bad. And it's been like hardly 5 odd games. Don't think Klay would even think of leaving this early in the season.
 
Why are there Klay transfer speculations? He has not shot well but i think he has been getting to take his shots. Just his shooting has been bad. And it's been like hardly 5 odd games. Don't think Klay would even think of leaving this early in the season.
Exactly.
 
The source of the rumours is Inquisitr, guys. They don't know anything.
 
Yep they really need a good rim protector. Boogie would be great but it would take more than Klay to secure him.
Really? Kings have an abundance of talent at the big, none of them are anywhere near Cousins but they will have players to throw there if they are to move him - Koufos, Labissiere, Cauley-Stein and the talented Greek guy they drafted this year are still there. Cousins' contract is done next year too and he will likely sign with someone else than Sacramento. Klay still has two seasons after this one and he might actually re-sign with them. They are not going to get a better deal than Klay Thompson for DMC.
 
Curry 13-17 from deep. NBA record. Insane shooting. The last 3 threes he shot were just him trying to break the record. When he's going he's just extraordinary.
 
If you're going to end one 3 pt. record, you might as well get another.
 
Curry 13-17 from deep. NBA record. Insane shooting. The last 3 threes he shot were just him trying to break the record. When he's going he's just extraordinary.
I don't agree with that. The game was close and he was hot from 3, so he just kept firing. The other night when he needed a three to keep the streak going he gave it up and left the game because a 3 at that point would have been meaningless in the context of the game.
 
Warriors looked a bit dire today at times and squandered a pretty comfortable lead, good for them they're against a team that cannot get a win to save their lives.
 
Warriors looked a bit dire today at times and squandered a pretty comfortable lead, good for them they're against a team that cannot get a win to save their lives.
If you are in the UK, do you ever sleep?
 
Haha, what would I give to get back my normal sleeping cycle. :(
I thought I liked basketball. I'm not in your league. Got to have my forty winks every so often. :) In fact, it's time for bed.
 
Warriors looked a bit dire today at times and squandered a pretty comfortable lead, good for them they're against a team that cannot get a win to save their lives.
The three pointer at the end cost me £100 I would have won from a £5 bet, only needed Warriors -11.5 to close this. Dire bunch. Luckily they won me -9.0 one.
 
I don't agree with that. The game was close and he was hot from 3, so he just kept firing. The other night when he needed a three to keep the streak going he gave it up and left the game because a 3 at that point would have been meaningless in the context of the game.
Ok, not all of those. But surely the last one. He surely must've known it was for the record, look at his reaction.:D I expected him to miss his last two shots, but then he's Curry. He's just unstoppable when he gets it going.
 
As for Klay on the other hand, his shooting woes continue. 2-7 today but only a matter of time before he gets back firing on all cylinders.
 
Although it erases a Kobe record, it's only fitting that Curry holds the record for most threes in a game right now.
 
Ok, not all of those. But surely the last one. He surely must've known it was for the record, look at his reaction.:D I expected him to miss his last two shots, but then he's Curry. He's just unstoppable when he gets it going.
I listened to him after the game and he said he was aware of the record after number 9. What I meant by "not looking for the record" was that he was not forcing shots to try and break it. The shots came to him with a hot hand and he took them. Number 11 came with a five point lead, and by number 12 it was still only six. I think the most important thing at that point was winning the game not the record. By the time the last one came round I agree by that point he was trying to break it.

Even with all that happened last night I still don't think he's back to where he was pre-injury. He's not moving from side to side like he used to and he's picking up more fouls as a result. He is also nowhere near the defender he was over the last two seasons. He was never elite, but he had become pretty decent. Now he seems to have regressed to where he was under Mark Jackson. I just don't think his knee is 100% yet.
 
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I listened to him after the game and he said he was aware of the record after number 9. What I meant by "not looking for the record" was that he was not forcing shots to try and break it. The shots came to him with a hot hand and he took them. Number 11 came with a five point lead, and by number 12 it was still only six. I think the most important thing at that point was winning the game not the record. By the time the last one came round I agree by that point he was trying to break it.

Even with all that happened last night I still don't think he's back to where he was pre-injury. He's not moving from side to side like he used to and he's picking up more fouls as a result. He is also nowhere near the defender he was over the last two seasons. He was never elite, but he had become pretty decent. Now he seems to have regressed to where he was under Mark Jackson. I just don't think his knee is 100% yet.

Come on, you were playing Pelicans. You would have won even if he missed some of those threes.

I am still mad at letting Frazier shot that three late on. Why did he do that? Did he not know the impact of that shot on my bet?

I don't think Curry is that great a defender. Always a bit overrated, the whole team defends well but Curry in isolation is just an above average defender IMO.
 
Another crazy 30/15 Harden game, 4 out of 7 already, record over a season is 6.

He's relishing that point guard role, which I did not expect. He used to be very selfish, didn't he? To come up with 15 assists now, wow.
 
Come on, you were playing Pelicans. You would have won even if he missed some of those threes.

I am still mad at letting Frazier shot that three late on. Why did he do that? Did he not know the impact of that shot on my bet?

I don't think Curry is that great a defender. Always a bit overrated, the whole team defends well but Curry in isolation is just an above average defender IMO.
That's the problem, they were only playing the Pelicans. When he hit the 11th 3 it was 100-95, the 12th 103-97. This is a team they should have been blowing away - but weren't. The Dubs needed almost everyone of those 3s. He was 13-17 from 3 pt. range. He goes 9-17 (still very good) and they could well have lost.

As to Curry's defensive capabilities. I agree that he's not that great a defender. Like you, I would go just above average (maybe a little better when fully fit). However, so far this season he's been way below that and he's also picking up more fouls than he used to - similar to last years playoffs. Like I said I'm not convinced his knee is back to being 100%. He's obviously fit enough to play, just not fit enough to be back where he was before he got hurt.
 
He's relishing that point guard role, which I did not expect. He used to be very selfish, didn't he? To come up with 15 assists now, wow.
He had to be selfish though, no off-ball movement under previous coaches, and no really good scorers, Ryan Anderson and Gordon are helping a lot with stretching the floor, giving him more options and better shots, his FG% is also a lot better.
 
He had to be selfish though, no off-ball movement under previous coaches, and no really good scorers, Ryan Anderson and Gordon are helping a lot with stretching the floor, giving him more options and better shots, his FG% is also a lot better.

Yeah it was basically all isolation and counting on him to get the job done last season when I saw them. Did not help that he was playing with Patrick Beverley who I hate.
 
That's the problem, they were only playing the Pelicans. When he hit the 11th 3 it was 100-95, the 12th 103-97. This is a team they should have been blowing away - but weren't. The Dubs needed almost everyone of those 3s. He was 13-17 from 3 pt. range. He goes 9-17 (still very good) and they could well have lost.

As to Curry's defensive capabilities. I agree that he's not that great a defender. Like you, I would go just above average (maybe a little better when fully fit). However, so far this season he's been way below that and he's also picking up more fouls than he used to - similar to last years playoffs. Like I said I'm not convinced his knee is back to being 100%. He's obviously fit enough to play, just not fit enough to be back where he was before he got hurt.

Yeah I'm surprised by how close it was. Last season this game would have been over in third quarter and you would be playing your second unit for the entire fourth, and still won by 20. This Pelicans team is really, really abysmal. Davis needs to leave and join Portland, it's painful watching him play with them.
 
Yeah it was basically all isolation and counting on him to get the job done last season when I saw them. Did not help that he was playing with Patrick Beverley who I hate.
I love Bev, he is a good player, just keep him as a back up, him on the bench instead of the awful Ennis will be a huge boost.
 
Yeah I'm surprised by how close it was. Last season this game would have been over in third quarter and you would be playing your second unit for the entire fourth, and still won by 20. This Pelicans team is really, really abysmal. Davis needs to leave and join Portland, it's painful watching him play with them.
Or you know, join Harden and have a super team.
 
I find the below very interesting:

NBA Trade Rumors: DeMarcus Cousins teaming up with Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum to form ‘Portland’s Big Three’
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Jeykesy Baruelo
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- November 9, 2016
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DeMarcus Cousins has been reportedly on the trading block and could part ways with the Sacramento Kings before the February deadline. According to the latest NBA rumors, the Portland Trail Blazers are eyeing to create their own ‘Big Three’ of Cousins, C.J. McCollum, and Damian Lillard.

The Portland Trail Blazers entered the 2016-17 NBA season with the goal of contending for the NBA championship title. The backcourt duo of Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum remained as one of the best in the league, helping their team to be competitive every game. However, if they want to compete against teams like the Cleveland Cavaliers and the Golden State Warriors, they should consider boosting their frontcourt and add a superstar big man.

“The suspicion among numerous league observers is that the Blazers’ non-stop spending this past offseason was asset collection as much as anything. Scan through all those names again and it’s clear Portland has no shortage of options to thrust itself into all kinds of trade talks as GM Neil Olshey continues to shape the roster around backcourt bedrocks Lillard and C.J. McCollum,” Stein wrote.

Andy Bailey of the Bleacher Report revealed that the Trail Blazers are willing to offer the likes of Allen Crabbe, Evan Turner, Moe Harkless and Meyers Leonard just to acquire a superstar big man. There are speculations that DeMarcus Cousins is the NBA star that attracts the Trail Blazers the most.

Recently, several NBA general managers revealed that the Sacramento Kings are actively shopping “Boogie” but want too much in return. An unnamed Western Conference executive said that he is willing to throw valuable assets provided that Cousins will not be a problem in the locker room.

“I’d take (Cousins), but you’d need a dominant personality to control him,” one Western Conference executive said. “I’ve been in that locker room. He’s a problem. They’d love to trade him, but can’t. So they act like they won’t. They would, though — tomorrow.”

As most people noticed, the Kings’ endless struggle is one of the major reasons why DeMarcus Cousins expressed his frustrations on his teammates and even his coaches. With a playoff contending team like the Trail Blazers, it will definitely bring him positive vibes, especially teaming up with the likes of Damian Lillard and C.J. McCollum.

With the Kings projected to suffer another disappointing season, there is no way that they could make DeMarcus Cousins extend his tenure in Sacramento. Trading him now will the best option than losing him in 2018 free agency without getting anything in return.

I agree with the notion that we extended so many players to have trade assets and will look for a consolidation trade, but will avoid dealing McCollum at any cost and will definitely not give him for Cousins, even if they ask for it. Everyone else will be available for a trade though and we could put up a decent package. Honestly, Sacramento are not going anywhere in the next couple of years, won't even make the playoffs in all likelihood, so they may as well decide to revamp the team now and get some younger assets coming in. A package of Aminu, Davis, Leonard and one of Crabbe, Harkless (please God no) and Turner plus a couple of picks would be very good for them. They get two players on favorable, long term cheap deals (Aminu, Davis), a young player to develop (Leonard) and a solid forward/backcourt player plus picks to add talent. Cousins is good mates with Lillard so there's a decent chance he would extend in Portland, and he might also stay quiet for once with his good friend leading the team.

Obviously Cousins is lots more talented than any of those players and they could perhaps get better value for him, but I'm not sure how many teams will be willing to deal anything of value for a player with his character who's supposed to be very bad for the locker room. Honestly, Portland with their culture and leader might be the only place in NBA where he could probably go and not disrupt the atmosphere.

It is a pipe dream for now, but why not dream.
 
Did Clippers look good last night or Blazers look bad or both. Didn't see the game. Can't decide what I think about either team's long term prospects moving forward. @Sarni, what happened?
 
Did Clippers look good last night or Blazers look bad or both. Didn't see the game. Can't decide what I think about either team's long term prospects moving forward. @Sarni, what happened?

They are the worst match up we possibly have right now, their frontcourt is very good, our frontcourt is terrible and Paul is capable of completely nullifying Lillard, which he did yesterday. I did not expect annihilation like this, I fully expected a heavy loss but maybe 10-15 points, not down by 43 in fourth quarter. We were always going to lose this one though.

Lillard and CJ were very tired and outplayed by CP3 too. Back to back after Phoenix game, 4th game in 6 nights, it was bound to catch up with them eventually.

I like to look for positives though and Jake Layman was ace again. They boy has some shooting touch on him, and he should be given more time at 3 and 4, particularly with Aminu throwing bricks and Davis looking absolutely lost, not to mention Evan Turner who was -33 yesterday, beating his own record.

I won't read too much into this. Full strength Clippers are a much better side than Blazers right now but their championship window is closing, they will not be any better, this is probably the last season of their big three together. We would have likely lost to them last year too if Paul and Griffin did not get injured in Game 4. For Clippers it's probably the last shot at championship and they will find it difficult, although IMO they've looked the best team in the NBA so far this season, despite Thunder and Spurs defeats. For Blazers it's still early in development, Lillard and CJ are good core but we absolutely must trade for a better center/power forward, we will not get anywhere with our current crop - they don't even have that much potential, Vonleh aside. The likes of Aminu, Leonard and Davis are playing very bad basketball this season.
 
I agree they have been the best team so far.
They've only lost to Thunder by the way, they defeated Spurs.
Best team in the west, certainly. I think the Cavs have been the best team overall though. Being in the east, I think they can play the entire season on cruise control and still get the number 1 seed. I was shocked that they lost to Atlanta. I actually think the Hawks were more surprised at winning than the Cavs were at losing. Most Eastern Conference teams are beaten against the Cavs before they even step on the court.