He has no moments. The moron said Jordan of today would beat LeBron one on one.
NBA 2014-2015
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He has no moments. The moron said Jordan of today would beat LeBron one on one.
Haha i peeped that, he cited mental toughness as the biggest factor in that matchup - i think we all know he's the biggest Jordan fan boy around...he can be right though...sometimes.
He is right in the same way a broken clock is right two times a day. I'm not giving him the benefit of the doubt when he repeatedly brings out tired cliches.
His point is that it's such a ridiculously stupid American thing to be so hung up on WINNING *** RING to be considered great, forget making finals or not. This isn't Tennis or Golf. It's a trend that's slowly but surely getting into Football as well...."no CL? he's shit", "oh but Messi hasn't won a world cup, forget doing it on his own"
Chris Paul has done his job, in regular season, postseason, he's the best PG of this era easily. I could care less about his mostly shit supporting cast. Unfortunately he doesn't have the physical attributes of a LeBron to do everything, I blame him for that.
What is Steve Kerr doing better than Mark Jackson?
Ball movement. Less ISO offense, especially for Harrison Barnes. Convincing former all stars like Lee and Igoudala to embrace bench roles. Unleashing draymond green.
And less Jesus.
Yeah, on street corners. That is such a bizarre video.
That makes sense, although the Lee - Green move was kind of due to injuries.
Jackson was a dead man walking when he demoted the White Mamba.
Zach lavine was very not good at basketball this year. Can't help but think that he's on the team due to winning the contest.
Deandre Jordan wants a $100m max deal.
He will get it and be a bargain. Basically everyone who gets max this year will be a bargain with the cap ballooning in the following years.
He was the better than the rest though, really disappointed Exum didnt shine this year.
Oh right, I agree with that then. I wasn't using it as a stick to beat Paul with or question his ability, was just stating it as a surprising fact.
Which 'era' are you referring to then? Nash and Kidd are comfortably a couple of levels ahead of him. If you mean after 2008 or so, it's too soon to call it when we've got some excellent young PGs in Wall, Irving and Lillard. Curry, Westbrook and Rose are all three years younger than Paul as well and could easily surpass him by the time Paul is in the twilight of his career. So I wouldn't exactly say he's easily the best PG of this era, unless you're referring to a period of five years when there weren't a lot of great PGs around.
Paul just turned 30. He's not in the twilight of his career. Nash and Kidd are from a previous era. He's much better than any of the others you've mentioned. The only possible exception is Curry if he can keep up this level for another 5-6 years.
No. I would of allowed you to get away with saying they are above him, and just left it at that.....but throwing in comfortably, yeah, just, no. I, even as a Rose homer, didn't even think Rose was better than him when Rose was winning an MVP either. Currys the only one of that lot that could be up there.
It's funny how various journalists have tried to cite the "they don't have enough depth" excuse for the Clips and Paul. Nash and the Suns only played with a 6 man rotation and never had a rim protector like DeAndre yet were still able to make the conference finals multiple times. I am a big Chris Paul fan because he is a very good two way player but he doesn't quite have the brilliance some other players have had to elevate the play of his teammates.
As a person who saw Green play in college, I never thought he would be as good of a player as he has become. Golden State has basically hit the lottery with his rise as they now have 3 bonafide star players imo. I was extremely impressed with Green's versatility on defense, especially when he was able to limit Gasol at times.
Defense has been the biggest driver of their improvement. Whenever they built huge leads against Memphis it was largely due to their ability to string together multiple stops on the defensive end. I don't think Mark Jackson had the same ability to coach fundamentals like Kerr and his team seem to have also.
CP3 is a better pg than Nash. Between him and Kidd is debatable but from a skill standpoint he is the best of three. The Clippers do have a poor bench but i'm not having that as the excuse for losing this series. They were 3-1 up, everyone was slaughtering Houston and laughing at Harden. They went to Houston in Game 5 and rather than try and close out the went through the motions and that culminated in the biggest choke I have ever seen in game 6. CP3 didn't lose by himself but to start making excuses for him after the fact is poor form. Blake disappeared too and DeAndre will get a max even though he really doesn't bring what a max player should bring to the table.
I'm a big cp3 and as a player who is 6'0 there is only so much he can do to influence a big man's sport but between himself and Doc the game management for the last 14 minutes of Game 6 was appalling. I chalk this up to him, Doc and Blake. You beat the Spurs, you beat Houston without cp3 and got to a 3-1 lead. Can't blame the bench guys for this one. It's a mental/coaching issue.
I expect GSW to take it all now. Healthiest team and they have been far and away the best team this season.
I'm a big cp3 and as a player who is 6'0 there is only so much he can do to influence a big man's sport but between himself and Doc the game management for the last 14 minutes of Game 6 was appalling. I chalk this up to him, Doc and Blake. You beat the Spurs, you beat Houston without cp3 and got to a 3-1 lead. Can't blame the bench guys for this one. It's a mental/coaching issue.
I expect GSW to take it all now. Healthiest team and they have been far and away the best team this season.
Blake was by far the best performer for the Clippers in 13 games, you can't chalk up the exit too him when he's averaging over 40 minutes a game in the playoffs. Doc Rivers is fecking shit as a GM and his prowess as a coach is overrated and that's what caused the Clippers to fail yet again. In what world would Farmer, Hawes and Turk fit a team that plays one of the fastest pace in the league and his solution to solving his lack of players is to sign his son.
Amazing athlete but couldn't even start at UCLA last year.
Blake barely showed up in the 4th quarter....he has to take some of it too.
Happy for my boy Langston. Going from being Undrafted to that is a good achievement.
Draft Lottery tonight. Who wants to bet my Knicks end up nowhere near the #1 pick? 
As long as the Heat get a top 7 spot im good, we'll probably get #10 as projected though.
Would be nice to draft a backup PG for Dragic,trading Chalmers and Napier in the process....cant have mediocrity on your bench if you're going to win the East next season
Blake did well but he was noticeably missing against Houston the last two games. Doc consecrated a poor roster that were 3-1 up and looking comfortable. They lost this series due to poor execution and mental fragility. Your points on Doc are true though.
Of course he's not in the twilight of his career, I said he could be surpassed by Curry (or Westbrook/Rose but that's almost impossible) by the time his career is coming towards an end. It's way too early to say CP3 is easily the best PG of this era right now.
I also don't agree with people saying that rings count for nothing in this - if you want to be considered as one of the greats of your generation, not having a ring is a huge void in your career, let alone never having made it to the Conference finals. The general consensus about Gerrard on here would definitely be different if he would've added some PL titles to his honours. The Clippers bench might be the main reason they didn't make it, but if you're 3-1 up with such a lead at home, your star player(s) has to take some part of the blame as well.
I wasn't necessarily disagreeing with you, it just looked like a very strong statement to make. Way too early to call something like that, imo.
I still stand by my point that Kidd and Nash were a level above Paul though. We'll just have to agree to disagree on that matter.
Nash was not above Paul simply because he wa a sieve on defense. The ring argument doesn't work either. Stockton, Malone, Wilkins, Barkley didn't either.
Dr J got one when he was 33 after the 76ers acquired Moses Malone. Jerry Lucas got his only ring when he was 33 and playing only 28 minutes per game. Oscar Robertson got his only ring when he was 33 and playing with Kareem. Elgin Baylor's only ring was from 1972. The problem is that he retired 9 games into the 1971-72 season.
It's stupid to judge individuals for team performances.
Dr J got one when he was 33 after the 76ers acquired Moses Malone. Jerry Lucas got his only ring when he was 33 and playing only 28 minutes per game. Oscar Robertson got his only ring when he was 33 and playing with Kareem. Elgin Baylor's only ring was from 1972. The problem is that he retired 9 games into the 1971-72 season.
It's stupid to judge individuals for team performances.
Nobody even remembers Gary Payton has a ring.
That's right! I just racked my brain and couldn't remember. I knew he came to LA to win one and the Pistons swept them out and I couldn't figure out another time.
I'm stupidly excited for the lottery tonight.
Any chance of the pistons losing their pick this year? That was fecking hilarious last year.
I hope your brain gets aids.