What's wrong with Nani?
Nasri To City - Done Deal!
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What's wrong with Nani?
If Arsenal can't hang on to Nasri then they might as well pack up and go home.
There is nothing wrong with Nani but in my opinion, this lineup is very potent in Europe because it is very versatile. It can easily alter into a 4-3-3 with Nasri tucking in to chip in down the middle.
Nasri isn`t a winger for me, his best position by far is Rooney`s position.
I was thinking the same, he plays in a rather advanced position than a midfield string-puller.
I'd rather we went for a really good and versatile central mid who can pass long and short, and another who's tough and energetic, not necessarily a DM but someone who can play box-to-box all day ala Keane.
Or maybe I'm just stuck with the Keane-scholes pair in my head and can't get over it
I dunno how many times ive said exactly that but its so true i dont see how anyone could argue it.
I think Nasri would play better for United than with us, since United play a more direct game compared to Arsenal.
If Ferguson tweaked the formation to a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1, with two CM's sitting behind Nasri I think he'd flourish. He's shown he can tackle and is tenacious in the middle, so it's not as if he would shirk any defensive responsibilities to begin with (which seems to be something Ferguson demands of his players - responsibility). And he's shown with his time at Arsenal so far that he's better suited to playing through the middle and running at defenders.
It's a double edged sword having Fabregas in the side, as when both are playing Nasri is pushed out wide... Unless Fabregas is playing deeper in the middle of course, but we don't see that too often any more.
If Ferguson tweaked the formation to a 4-3-3/4-2-3-1, with two CM's sitting behind Nasri I think he'd flourish. He's shown he can tackle and is tenacious in the middle, so it's not as if he would shirk any defensive responsibilities to begin with (which seems to be something Ferguson demands of his players - responsibility). And he's shown with his time at Arsenal so far that he's better suited to playing through the middle and running at defenders.
It's a double edged sword having Fabregas in the side, as when both are playing Nasri is pushed out wide... Unless Fabregas is playing deeper in the middle of course, but we don't see that too often any more.
Defensive 5
Carrick - Fletcher
Valencia - Nasri - Nani
Rooney
Carrick - Fletcher
Valencia - Nasri - Nani
Rooney
2.5m was big money at that time for a keeper.
Wenger is recorded to have said that he won't sell Nasri to United.
Ungrateful twat. We sold him a gold nugget in the form of beanhead, a couple of seasons ago.
And put a ton of pressure on Nasri by openly stating his contract isn't getting signed because of 'financial issues'
Basically saying he wants a lot more than we think he is worth, or can afford to give him.
The gap doesn't look too wide, I think they'll find a way to bridge it.
They can't afford to lose him and Fabregas.
If Nasri wants to leave and join United then there is little Wenger can do about it. He can either sell him or else he can lose him for free next season.
I think I'd be more interested in Nasri coming here than some of the others banded about.
Nasri is just the type of player we need in the midfield area - mobile, quick and technically gifted. He's more of a goal threat than anyone else in our ranks from that area as well.
So much more attractive than Young.
So much more attractive than Young.
Isn't he a bit injury prone though?
He'd walk into our team to be fair. Would much prefer him than Modric, but it'll never happen.
The transfer forum is an area to discuss ideas and rumours as well. A link to a player doesn't have to be cast iron for it to be a discussion point. It would be negligent for the club not to at least look into the prospect of signing a player of this level when he's into the final twelve months...
Same here, would absolutely love it if Nasri comes here. I think he would flourish here, much more than he has at Arsenal.
None of you even slightly concerned at how easily and repeatedly he disappears in the biggest matches? what did he actually do for Arsenal when it came to crunch time? he had a very good spell of about 3 months between September and January and thats about it.
Matters not anyway as we clearly wont be signing him.
Matters not anyway as we clearly wont be signing him.
I guess the counter argument is that he'll be playing with much more winners in our team, and some of that attitude will rub on him
Perhaps, or perhaps hes a bit of a fairweather when the goings good type of player, ive never seen him shine consistently against quality opposition sure he looks great against the Birmingham citys and wigans of this world but what did he do against us? or Barcelona or Chelsea or even Liverpool for that matter?? ive regularly seen him completely go missing in such games and very rarely shine.
Offered a new five-year contract worth £90,000 a week but wants £110,000 a week in line with Cesc Fabregas apparently.
cesc at 110 is a steal.
how is arsenal's wage bill so high when their best player gets 110?
Their wage structure is completely upside down - their youngest players are payed very high wages, which IMO prevents them from attracting the biggest stars.
Heinze was in a similar situation, wanted to join Liverpool and we shipped him Real.
Could see this next year:
---------------De Gea---------------
Rafael----Ferdinand---Vidic-------Evra
Valencia---Fabregas----Wilshire------Nasri
-----------Rooney----Hernandez------
---------------De Gea---------------
Rafael----Ferdinand---Vidic-------Evra
Valencia---Fabregas----Wilshire------Nasri
-----------Rooney----Hernandez------
The quote DMC posted, but with an additional quote from Wenger regarding Gervinho and Benzema. Also some speculative interest in Samba, neither denied nor confirmed
Nasri to French TV: I don't know if I will sign a new contract. Do I want to go to #MUFC? We should see if it's real & if it is concrete.
Taken from goal.com's Stephen Darwin on Twitter.
Taken from goal.com's Stephen Darwin on Twitter.
Sounds like a "show me the money" demand to Arsenal more than a "come and get me" to Utd.
Expect a hike in wages and a new contract shortly
Trying to twist arsenal's arm.
Joe Cole's school of negotiating.
Joe Cole's school of negotiating.
That's where he wants to go....
As other have said, just using us as a bait to make Arsenal pay him the money, he wants.
People really need to figure out that Nani is much better than Valencia. Valencia is very good and works so well when we are the attacking side. However, against teams that hold the ball well and we have to defend he tends to have difficult days (thankfully we don't encounter that problem very often). He almost always goes to his right and tries to cross the ball, all good and well but Nani can do so much more. He's just better and I feel that Valencia should be the backup. Fergie loves players like Valencia, a hard worker that does what he's asked to do and helps the right back, a good crosser of the ball as well. Nani just offers more in my opinion and he's being held back. He belongs on the right in the number 7 shirt.
The biggest problem for Nani is also that Valencia is simply more likeable overall. That's part of why a lot of people around here tend to choose him over Nani in my opinion. Nani can be really, really annoying at times but we need to recognize what we have in him. He honestly has the talents to be one of the best players in the world.
what if Arsenal refuses to pay?
its difficult to say mustaine
first half of the season nani was outstanding - he invariably made the right decisions, looked like he might score every game and his assist record speaks for itself
i'm pretty sure the last time he scored though was against city (the rooney wondergoal game) and in the second half of the season he was wasteful, made poor decisions and was very inconsistent
at the same time when valencia came back from injury he was outstanding for the rest of the season - i think the only game he played in which he struggled was against barca (and all the players struggled)
valencia doesnt have the skills or raw talent that nani has but he doesnt need to do stepovers as he has raw pace, strength and is a great crosser - you only need to listen to someone like rooney talk about valencia to realise what he offers...i've never seen a player embarrass ashley cole the way valencia did this season
its a great problem to have - i just hope fergie can keep both players happy
first half of the season nani was outstanding - he invariably made the right decisions, looked like he might score every game and his assist record speaks for itself
i'm pretty sure the last time he scored though was against city (the rooney wondergoal game) and in the second half of the season he was wasteful, made poor decisions and was very inconsistent
at the same time when valencia came back from injury he was outstanding for the rest of the season - i think the only game he played in which he struggled was against barca (and all the players struggled)
valencia doesnt have the skills or raw talent that nani has but he doesnt need to do stepovers as he has raw pace, strength and is a great crosser - you only need to listen to someone like rooney talk about valencia to realise what he offers...i've never seen a player embarrass ashley cole the way valencia did this season
its a great problem to have - i just hope fergie can keep both players happy
Didn't nasri impress in midfield? I thought people where saying he blossomed once Fabregas was injured..or is he just a winger? Can he play midfield?
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