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Nasri To City - Done Deal!
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Any bookmakers offering odds on him staying?
AdZzUtd said:
You fecking muppet!
That little git rejected a 90k a week offer from Arsenal. Do we need a greedy player like him?
I am, Top.
By the way, the board is fecked. It says I am the only person online and no threads are updating.
By the way, the board is fecked. It says I am the only person online and no threads are updating.
You fecking muppet!
It's not as if I've pulled the Nasri to United story out of my own arsehole, many well known journalists have spoken about this and there has been nothing to suggest we aren't interested from official sources. Typical United fashion to keep tight lipped about potential transfers until they're all but done, so what the feck is wrong about that?
Jog on, appleboy8000000
This story does have that feel to it where you think there is some truth in it, much like the Ashley Young and Antonio Valencia sagas. You just know that one day soon it will all kick off and somebody will come in with a bid which will set the ball rolling. I think it makes more sense to leave this one as late as possible in the window though, as Arsenal will really have to start listening to offers or else risk losing him for nothing in January.
That doesnt suggest its not all about money and he actually wants to be at a club that can win something other than the Emirites Cup?
I think they won't be willing to sell a player to England at all and if he refuses to sign a new deal, they will just offer him across Europe to clubs like Inter, Milan, Real and Barcelona to see if they can attract any interest.
Perhaps you are right in that they won't really have a preference between us and the other two interested English sides but then again they might offer more money to both player and the club because they can afford silly wages and transfer fees.
Alternatively, he's not being greedy at all and he want's to move to a club where he feels he can win something. What a waste of a talent if he was to stay another 5 years and still win feck all.
I have no idea which he is being... but I wouldn't be surprised if he gets more money and wins a trophy or two.
Ashley Young has absolutely no relevance at all to what happens in this saga, but then again you just like to have a go at me so I'm not really that surprised that you tried.
Ultimately the player himself will decide his destination.
From his point of view a new deal could be a potential disaster, he's at age when he can still have a very successful career and win plenty of trophies. If he remains at Arsenal and they continue their policy that leads them nowhere, he will likely stay there until his late 20s and then realise that he made a mistake but even if he does move, it will probably be too late to enjoy many years of success. Arsenal are reaching point where they have to use money to convince player to stay because they don't offer success.
we have no clue why he rejected an Arsenal-contract - I doubt it's money alone.
At this particular time - If I were an Arsenal-player I would have serious doubts about signing a long-term contract. I am not saying everything is gonna go wrong at the club - but I am much more insecure about Arsenal than Spurs or Liverpool at the moment.
Thing is, if Arsenal intend to sell him abroad I don't think he will be that reluctant to such an idea. I agree that he is in a very good position to force a move, I just cannot see him forcing that particular move to United but I might be wrong. He's definitely a more realistic target than Sneijder or Modrid to be completely honest.
He could look at Modric who wants out and think whether he wants to be in the same position one day, the answer will have to be no.
If certain stories are to be believed, we have been interested in signing him for months now. If we had sounded him out a while ago, then maybe him not signing a new deal is part of a plan to force his move to Old Trafford. He's really burning his bridges with Arsenal by lettin this drag on and publicly talking about waiting to see if we are interested. You'd like to believe he has something lined up.
There's also a lot of things in a contract these days. It's not all about wages per week. I doubt 5-10k per week is the major factor in these discussions for a club this size.
Perhaps a release fee, whenever players sign deals with clubs that don't win things they should ensure that there is a reasonable release clause, it makes perfect sense.
If he doesn't sign a new contract before January he will probably earn at least double that when he leaves next summer. Unfortunately salaries in football are highly inflated these days and 90k a week isn't that competitive anymore.
I don't see why everyone automatically assumes (again) that the money is the issue here.
Maybe he wants to move to a club who can match his ambition? I.e, one who stand a chance of competing for major trophies.
Maybe he wants to move to a club who can match his ambition? I.e, one who stand a chance of competing for major trophies.
This is going to be a recurring theme. Players realise that they are in a much stronger bargaining position by not re-signing (see Ozil, Affellay, Khedira). Nasri can say in a year give me £100K a week plus we'll split the £25M fee you would have paid for me @ £3M a year over 4 years. It will kill off transfer fees before too long.
Why do you think Arsenal and Wenger so often are incapable of keeping hold of their players?
They are but the pending threat of being a free agent often gets them a good deal from there current team. If Nasri was at United, Chelsea or City in the same position he would be looking at a 200k a week deal this summer. It really saddens me that football has been so distorted by outside money and a team of Arsenals stature can't realistically compete.
it's not that they can't, it's that they don't want to
Arsenal CAN afford to pay mega wages. They just choose not to.
It is both admirable and self-defeating, at the same time.
Footballers wages aren't really 'inflated'. They may be vulgarly remunerated, but it's not really 'inflated' in that they earn a reflection of their economic output. Clubs are raking in huge turnovers and players are the 'stars' of the show...
Because they're so good they are coveted by other teams, who pay them silly money.
Wages have been inflated by those cnuts at City and Chelsea who are financially doped.
However, not good enough to win anything.
Doesn't explain that Fabregas and Arshavin can get big money whilst Arsenal 2nd best player last season can't get the same.
Well not if a couple or three bugger off everytime we get close. What we needed to do was keep the ones we had and add a couple. But if we lose Nasri and Fabregas it's two steps back (see 2009).
You paid Henry a one off sum to keep him at Arse... So something can be done without needing to smash the wage structure. I actually feel sorry for Wenger, he's clearly batting on a green top.
I actually think Arsenal can afford (if only just) to lose Fabregas, Nasri and Clichy, and they'd still be competing for 3rd/4th. They still have a lot of quality in midfield with Song, Ramsey and Wilshere.
My only worry for them is if Van Persie gets sick of not winning things and forces a transfer.. who the hell would score the goals if that happened?
My only worry for them is if Van Persie gets sick of not winning things and forces a transfer.. who the hell would score the goals if that happened?
Fabregas is our best player and is on about £110K, Arshavin's on less than £100K. Nasri's probably worth about £120K max in the market, we're offering about £100K since we're about 20% below top whack generally (ie what you pay).
I think that was just the signing on fee that they all get now (as if the fecking wages weren't big enough). What do you do? Gamble that you can win stuff and increase revenue and pay up. Sell out to Usmanov and let him play silly $$$ with Abramovic and the Sheikh. Or keep to the 10-year plan?
Arshavin is not on less than 100k and Fabregas is getting more. Bonuses are rarely mentioned. Like I said, the contracts are about much more than just the normal rate per week.
Is Neil Ashton reliable?
Was so sure that this was a ploy for more cash but it seems likely he'll be off now.
I'd imagine if he was offered £110k immediately he would have signed but the longer things have gone on (and with the reported contact with other clubs), he's questioned why he should sign. I'm still unsure that we're interested and before the papers started linking him, there wasn't many of us who would have 'chosen' him (perhaps more to do with the Arsenal factor). But it just feels so surreal.
Would be a good signing though!
I'd imagine if he was offered £110k immediately he would have signed but the longer things have gone on (and with the reported contact with other clubs), he's questioned why he should sign. I'm still unsure that we're interested and before the papers started linking him, there wasn't many of us who would have 'chosen' him (perhaps more to do with the Arsenal factor). But it just feels so surreal.
Would be a good signing though!
There is no 10-year plan, face it. You cannot build a side by selling your best players.
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