Nani will reignite our charge to the title

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Nani starting and Giggsy off the bench is a regular tactic that we should employ for the left flank.
 
Well I agree with most of what you said in this thread and I was deliberatly "painting things like you were talking about his time when he was out injured" because you mentioned by his recent standard he played brilliantly today, because he wasnt and because he has no recent standard. He was good against Wolfsburg and did better than what most probably expected after coming back from injury and that looked like a cheap shot at him to me... Probably too much hairsplitting from my side I must admit but this thread always gets me going when I read through all the posts.
Fair enough. For the record when I meant recent standards I meant his recent games played. I felt he was a mess before the injury. Though the game in Germany was encouraging. I just hope this time he stays on a run of good form. He needs it badly. He is a confidence player. Once his confidence gets really high, he will become a consistent asset for us, like was the case in his first season. But when it is low, his game does suffer badly. The injury helped him in that respect. It got him away from the fans jumping on his back.

Also, I wish he'd buried the over head kick:drool:
 
The only reason Nani had more crosses in than Valencia was because he was taking all the corners. None of them were as good you would get from Giggs. Valencia's crosses in general for me found the head of Rooney and Berbatov more often than a Burnley player.

I didn't blame Nani for the counterattacks but it still remains that Burnley got their most joy from our left flank.

Valencia took all the corners from the right.
 
Fair enough. For the record when I meant recent standards I meant his recent games played. I felt he was a mess before the injury. Though the game in Germany was encouraging. I just hope this time he stays on a run of good form. He needs it badly. He is a confidence player. Once his confidence gets really high, he will become a consistent asset for us, like was the case in his first season. But when it is low, his game does suffer badly. The injury helped him in that respect. It got him away from the fans jumping on his back.

Also, I wish he'd buried the over head kick:drool:

Yup that's very true. He was well below par and painful to watch considering the potential the lad has.
True ^^ that would have been a feckin great goal.
 
Nani started off very badly and the crowd let him know it, but I thought he got a little better as the match went on, he put in a couple of decent balls and had a some efforts on goal. He is way to hesitant when he gets the ball these days though and it slows our play down, needs to get some confidence back and just be more direct instead of dwelling on the ball all the time worried hes going to mess it up.
 
Nani starting and Giggsy off the bench is a regular tactic that we should employ for the left flank.

Do you think Nani's a better player?

If so that's surprising, if not I don't really see why you'd start a worse player ahead of a better one.
 
Do you think Nani's a better player?

If so that's surprising, if not I don't really see why you'd start a worse player ahead of a better one.

Nani needs games and if we really want to stick with him we should slowly start to give him more games. Giggs of course is the better player, but Nani is younger and potentially our next left winger if we stick with him, so I see his point.
 
Do you think Nani's a better player?

If so that's surprising, if not I don't really see why you'd start a worse player ahead of a better one.

No I don't think Nanis a better player, I do feel however that Giggsy is awful in the first half when the game is really tight, Giggsy comes into his own when the game is stretched.

I think we should use Giggs as an impact player and not wear him out in the first half, against tiring legs in the second half Giggs would be alot more effective.

His best performances this season have generally been in the second half after a very mediocre first 45.

Nani is not my cup of tea, but I can see what he can give to the team, he's a bundle of pace and energy and should be used as a sacrificial lamb if you like for the first 45-60 minutes.
 
Nani needs games and if we really want to stick with him we should slowly start to give him more games. Giggs of course is the better player, but Nani is younger and potentially our next left winger if we stick with him, so I see his point.

Yeah but Giggs can't go on forever, can he?!

Might as well get the most out of Giggs before he stops performing at a level far above what you'd expect from someone of his age, no?
 
No I don't think Nanis a better player, I do feel however that Giggsy is awful in the first half when the game is really tight, Giggsy comes into his own when the game is stretched.

I think we should use Giggs as an impact player and not wear him out in the first half, against tiring legs in the second half Giggs would be alot more effective.

His best performances this season have generally been in the second half after a very mediocre first 45.

Nani is not my cup of tea, but I can see what he can give to the team, he's a bundle of pace and energy and should be used as a sacrificial lamb if you like for the first 45-60 minutes.

Ahhh I see, interesting way to look at things and I see where you're coming from now. Fair enough.
 
It's astonishing how he gets his points wrong in almost every post he has written in this thread isnt it? :lol:

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You are some funny guy, at least I hope so and you are not beeing serious.

So you are some kind of ITK I guess?

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Your dumbness scares the feck out of me

I'm flattered. But I must say even if I am wrong which you can't be sure on, least I am contributing something aside from getting hurt over your favourite player.
 
No I don't think Nanis a better player, I do feel however that Giggsy is awful in the first half when the game is really tight, Giggsy comes into his own when the game is stretched.

I think we should use Giggs as an impact player and not wear him out in the first half, against tiring legs in the second half Giggs would be alot more effective.

His best performances this season have generally been in the second half after a very mediocre first 45.

Nani is not my cup of tea, but I can see what he can give to the team, he's a bundle of pace and energy and should be used as a sacrificial lamb if you like for the first 45-60 minutes.


Agree very much about Giggs being best as an impact sub.
 
Yeah but Giggs can't go on forever, can he?!

Might as well get the most out of Giggs before he stops performing at a level far above what you'd expect from someone of his age, no?

Well I didnt agree with his "Nani should start most games". I am only of the opinion that he should get more games and you are right as long as Giggs keeps performing very well he should play the majority of our games.
 
On it's own merits it wasn't a great performance but yeah, it was very encouraging.

IMO the best bit - and the reason he stayed on for the full 90 - was that he didn't concede possession cheaply at any point. In fact, I don't remember him dribbling up a blind alley or doing one of his trademark misplaced short passes once. SAF will be pleased and it might be enough to get him a start in our next game.

Nani will be pleased he finished the game too. A badly needed confidence boost. Hopefully it's onwards and upwards from here.

He needed to break the vicious cycle eventually.

On one hand, he wasn't getting a run of games, or even completing games when he did get a rare opportunity. On the other hand, he wasn't producing anything to warrant getting a run, or even stay on.

Totally agree with you that 90 mins indicates that SAF is happy with his work, because he is usually the first to get the hook when things are going badly.

Who knows man. He's played something like two in sixteen. This could end up being a masterstroke by SAF, in terms of the way he has managed Nani after the comments he made on international duty.

The City game mid-week would be an ideal time to get another game. I hope he stays in the side on merit and continues to build on this. I said before the game, that his best chance today was to keep things relatively simple and it seems that he did that. If he can build up a head of steam, there's no doubting that he is the antithesis of Valencia - I think that's great though. The direct nature of Valencia's play, complimented by the unpredictability of Nani.

Come on lad. Take your opportunity!
 
Well lets put it this way. Its now or never for Nani, if he wants to be a United player, its time to step it up and force his way into the first team. The opportunity is there, he just needs to prove that he's capable.

Good first step, now he needs to back it up with an even better performance when he's next picked, which will be hopefully in the next 2 games.
 
I see there are quite a few chose him as motm in another thread :wenger:

Piss poor from him again today.
 
Not trying to bring any other Ronaldo comparison in other than this one.

IMO Nani tries harder to get back than Ronaldo did at the start of his career. OK Nani's fairly ineffective when he does get back, but at least he does try. A bit more coaching on this side of his game would perhaps yield good results. At the minute he's seen as a wholly attacking player and a bit of a show pony. But if its true that he has enough heart to get back often then maybe a bit of defensive work would improve his whole game and make him a more valueable player for us, and to us should we have to sell him in the future.
 
I like Nani and he did ok but honestly it wouldn't be far off the mark to say he was one of our poorer players, he gave the ball away several times. The crowd were very frustrated with him, even if the Cafe isn't I guess.
 
To be brutally honest, I did not think much of his performance today. He was not half as frustrating as usual, but he did absolutely nothing considering how much of the ball he had. In comparison, Valencia was far more productive. I don't think that performance will be near enough to cement a place in the team. He wasn't our poorest player by the way.
 
To be brutally honest, I did not think much of his performance today. He was not half as frustrating as usual, but he did absolutely nothing considering how much of the ball he had. In comparison, Valencia was far more productive. I don't think that performance will be near enough to cement a place in the team. He wasn't our poorest player by the way.

But then again, you are Name Changed and that's a piss poor WUM
 
I'm struggling to think of a worse player today...nope still struggling.


Nominations appreciated.
 
I thought he played well in the first half. Trailed off a bit in the second half. Don't think this game did him any harm in SAF's eyes. And he finally got a full 90 minutes.

Yea. You could see he was tired the last 20 minutes or so. He's lacking match practice after all. Good he got the 90 minutes. Will bench against City and hopefully start against Hull.
 
Wes was poor today but not as poor as......

Sorry bud, you're wrong. Nani was one of our better players today, if you're saying otherwise then it can only be because of a personal dislike of the man, not his performance. The fact he played 90 mins speaks volumes enough.
 
Don't want to get into that wum but: Carrick, Scholes, Neville, Brown, Rooney, Berbatov

Berbatov no way. He was a MOTM contender today/yesterday. He scored the decisive 1st goal, worked very well to get into positions, made some clever touches/passes and having in mind he was in pain throughout the match. But with the others I agree(may add Evans in there).

Nani was one of the better players indeed. He was a threat down the left, occupying 2-3 at a time(along with Evra of course), looked sharper, had some facepalm deserving situations(the air kick and the one which Berba dummied). Valencia had a lot of space on the right. He wasn't as closely monitored as Nani, and that gave us a good balance and decent openings.
 
But then again, you are Name Changed and that's a piss poor WUM

How the hell is that a WUM? Do you watch the matches at all? If I said he was shite, that would be a wum. If I said he was good, that would be a wum. What I said was that Valencia was much better, which any idiot can see, and that Nani did not do enough to in anyway cement his place in the team. Hardly being a wum is it, considering both the things I said are most likely true. Go learn the definition of WUM.
 
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