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Nani | Contract & Transfer talk
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Seems crazy to not want to take back a brilliant player just because some fans might get annoyed with him when he doesn't do everything totally right all the time
The fan thing is less of an issue than the likelihood of him failing to transfer his loan form back here.
It seems he has been excellent since going on loan but this is while playing in a far, far, far less pressurized situation and against generally weak opposition (a few CL games don't change that).
Put it this way: if we were being linked to a new signing with Nani's age and history then his form for Sporting wouldn't be enough to stop me from having serious doubts.
It seems he has been excellent since going on loan but this is while playing in a far, far, far less pressurized situation and against generally weak opposition (a few CL games don't change that).
Put it this way: if we were being linked to a new signing with Nani's age and history then his form for Sporting wouldn't be enough to stop me from having serious doubts.
A goal, an assist and created 7 chances. Most of them clear cut ones too. Can't doubt that sort of performance.
Oh here we go again with this crap. I've said countless times he has been better in the big games and not as motivated in the easier fixtures (although still producing). Also i fail to understand how it's far far far less pressurized to play away at Porto for the cup, Benfica away in the league, with Chelsea or Schalke in the champions league rather than playing for virtually 5th, 6th or 7th with Moyes like last year. Doesn't matter if he's playing at Sporting or United. Although he's a confidence player, he rarely goes missing in the big games. He's been one of the best performers in the Champions League this year and putting up the numbers, which is all that matters.
He was amazing tonight with a very good goal and an assist for Slimani's third. Like i've been saying, it's not only his numbers, his performances have been outstanding. He could have had 3 or 4 assists tonight if it wasn't for our poor finishing. He's on a different level comparing to his teammates. He has been excellent with Sporting and Portugal this year. No doubt about it.
We'll probably sell him to Juve on the cheap.
Why? Only if Woodward is stupid (which he isn't after getting 3 millions from Bébe). With the form he's displaying you can get a decent fee
How's he been with injuries?
Not sure what the terms of the loan were, but i'd definitely have him back in January if he's been fit enough to look as good as the reports say he has. Fitness was always his biggest issue here imo.
Not sure what the terms of the loan were, but i'd definitely have him back in January if he's been fit enough to look as good as the reports say he has. Fitness was always his biggest issue here imo.
Of course it matters. We're a way bigger club (arguably the biggest in the world) and with that comes extra attention, pressure and expectation. Moyes was coming up against largely the same teams at United as he was at Everton but that didn't change the fact that he was swallowed up by the size of the club. The same thing happens to players too. Better players than Nani have failed to make it here.
It has been confirmed by Sporting's President that he has no recall clause.
Fortunately no injuries so far. And he has been getting pretty rough treatment since he is a far superior player technically than most of the players he faces. Tonight he got a red card challenge but thankfully he recovered and stayed on the pitch. Injuries or physical problems haven't been an issue so far.
Just a hunch, we sold Kagawa cheaply and could see the same thing happening with Nani.
In those specific matter (that's why i mentioned Moyes reign) i don't think it does but of course you are right about United being a bigger club. I don't think Nani suffered more pressure last year at United because he hardly played. At Sporting he has the pressure of being the reference of the team, the player with more experience in big competitions and the expectations of our supporters who consider him the player who will lead us to some silverware. I doubt you have any knowledge of portuguese football (understandably so) but it's very hard and intimidating to play away at Porto and Benfica. You just have to look how big english teams with far better budgets struggle there. Nani has been amazing in those very demanding games. I don't care if he's staying at United but he deserves the credit for his performances and numbers after two very sub par years.
You won't get a super fee because of Nani's age but i think you can fetch a decent fee with the production he's displaying in the Champions League.
Apart from the shot itself (which he should have dinked), that has to be the most Nani goal in the history of Nani. Just look how he Nani's the first guy, before Nani'ing up his first shot... only to fortunately get the ball back, throw in a few more Nani's, leaving a few more players Nani'ed... before actually scoring.
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Agreed. As Nani-esque goal you'll ever see. Teammate's reaction is gold.Nani has twice as many CL goals as our treble winning Scouse neighbours.
I saw most of the match and Nani was again amazing. I once said he has the ability to be a top 5 player in the world and of course I was ridiculed for saying it but what he can do with a ball at his feet very few can equal.
The reason why I am a huge Nani fan is because of his high skill level. A level that I think not even DiMaria can match. That being said I am ambivalent about his return. Rooney is King when it comes to our club and its supporters and Rooney wants our wingers to dutifully supply him with crosses so that he can score. He does not like Nani doing his own thing so I think it would not take long for Rooney and his supporters to turn against Nani again.
The reason why I am a huge Nani fan is because of his high skill level. A level that I think not even DiMaria can match. That being said I am ambivalent about his return. Rooney is King when it comes to our club and its supporters and Rooney wants our wingers to dutifully supply him with crosses so that he can score. He does not like Nani doing his own thing so I think it would not take long for Rooney and his supporters to turn against Nani again.
Depay plays in the Dutch league, a league that is weaker than the Portuguese league. Hasn't stopped the wanking over him this season
He really is a spectacular dribbler in tight spaces. Good to see him doing well, even if not for us, as he is a treat to watch when on song.
Ben Foster comes to mind though he's not as talented as Nani.
That's really Nanazing goal, to be fair. Nani of the Maribor players know what the feck is going on.
What?
Probably Ben Fosters biggest contribution here was winning us the Carling Cup with a MOTM performance and a penalty save in the final. I just don't think he was good enough to make it here, nothing to do with mental strength.
He should have never been loaned in the first place anyway. That said, if he wasn't, we may well have Thomas Vermaelen here now so can't complain.
But he was always a far bigger attacking threat than Young and Valencia. He's a winger of 10 goals and assists each in a season.
But he was always a far bigger attacking threat than Young and Valencia. He's a winger of 10 goals and assists each in a season.
True, though Depay is 20 so maybe people are thinking in terms of potential? Whereas at 28 Nani will always be Nani, with both the good and bad that implies.
Regardless of their talent the main point was mental fragility. Foster was pretty weak and couldn't wait to go back to a middling club as he couldn't handle the pressure.
Young and Valencia weren't really kept for their attacking threat though, were they? They're our back up full backs.
He pretty much said himself that he didn't have the mentality for a club like United, which is probably why roseguy brought him up.
http://therepublikofmancunia.com/foster-united-more-demanding-than-england/
4th most distance covered of all "forwards" in the CL so far.
Hopefully this helps bring us more money in summer. I'm done with him... If I see him, Young and Valencia here come Septemeber I'm jumping off a cliff.
Nani is clearl benefitting from being the go to guy... He won't get that at United. Itll be a repeat of last year,
Nani is clearl benefitting from being the go to guy... He won't get that at United. Itll be a repeat of last year,
Really hope he is with us next September.
His teammate' reaction is the reason I don't want him back.
I'd be surprised if we don't recall him at some point.
You don't want him back because you expect our players to be petulant arseholes who are unhappy whenever someone else than themselves score? Ronaldo's not here anymore remember.
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I'd like to see it. With the current form/fitness of RVP/Falcao we can play Rooney up top on his own without particularly losing out. A 4-3-3 with Di Maria inside alongside Blind/Carrick and Fellaini/Herrera and Nani and Januzaj flanking Rooney looks pretty balanced to me.
I've never seen anyone cuss, rage and swear more at their own teammate than Rooney does to Nani for one example.
but that teammates reaction on the clip is gold.
I love this thread this season.
I love Nani. Let's get into the CL next year and have the following forward and midfield squad.
Rooney, Falcao, Wilson
Mata, (new young talent around 20 years old who can play wide and as no.10)
di maria, Nani, Januzaj
new_cm, herrera, fellaini, blind and maybe carrick too.
--------------Rooney/Falcao--------------------------
Di Maria-----------Mata/Rooney-----------------Nani
------------New_CM--------Herrera/Fellaini----------
That is a great starting line-up.
I love Nani. Let's get into the CL next year and have the following forward and midfield squad.
Rooney, Falcao, Wilson
Mata, (new young talent around 20 years old who can play wide and as no.10)
di maria, Nani, Januzaj
new_cm, herrera, fellaini, blind and maybe carrick too.
--------------Rooney/Falcao--------------------------
Di Maria-----------Mata/Rooney-----------------Nani
------------New_CM--------Herrera/Fellaini----------
That is a great starting line-up.
Anyone think Nani isn't a LvG type of player? by that what I mean is, he likes his teams to play quite mechanically, with simple but effective passing, mechanical in how a team as a whole should function and move forward? rather than allow exceptional deviation even for the most talented of players?
After games he's always talking of players taking the wrong option.. making the wrong choices.. etc?
Doesn't that effectively conflict with Nani's Boom or Bust unorthodox style?
After games he's always talking of players taking the wrong option.. making the wrong choices.. etc?
Doesn't that effectively conflict with Nani's Boom or Bust unorthodox style?
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