Name four players you think we'll buy in the summer

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Donnarumma - Mino player. We took three of his so now once again we'll pay him a huge fee.

Keane - No other good CB out there (unless Thiago Silva really leaves PSG)

Naingolan
- Would complete so well Herrera and Pogba

Bale - Part of the De Gea deal

Griezmann - Top target. Absolute must

My teams in 433 and 4231:

Donnarumma
Valencia
Bailly
Keane
Shaw
Naingollan
Herrera
Pogba
Bale
Mkhitaryan
Griezmann

Romero
Darmian
Jones
Smalling
Rojo
Carrick
Fellaini
Lingard
Mata
Martial
Raq
Rashford
 
Donnarumma - Mino player. We took three of his so now once again we'll pay him a huge fee.
No way, i guess it would be easier to get Neuer now. AC Milan is arming, they already bought a player many had on our list (Kessie), probably soon to secure the second (Belotti). No way they are letting their biggest talent and new figurehead leave.
Bale and Griezmann would be nice, but i guess it's pretty unrealistic that we'd get both
 
No way, i guess it would be easier to get Neuer now. AC Milan is arming, they already bought a player many had on our list (Kessie), probably soon to secure the second (Belotti). No way they are letting their biggest talent and new figurehead leave.
Bale and Griezmann would be nice, but i guess it's pretty unrealistic that we'd get both
I think he only has one year left on his contract. There's not that much Milan can do if that is true.
 
Donnarumma - Mino player. We took three of his so now once again we'll pay him a huge fee.

Keane - No other good CB out there (unless Thiago Silva really leaves PSG)

Naingolan
- Would complete so well Herrera and Pogba

Bale - Part of the De Gea deal

Griezmann - Top target. Absolute must

My teams in 433 and 4231:

Donnarumma
Valencia
Bailly
Keane
Shaw
Naingollan
Herrera
Pogba
Bale
Mkhitaryan
Griezmann

Romero
Darmian
Jones
Smalling
Rojo
Carrick
Fellaini
Lingard
Mata
Martial
Raq
Rashford

No other good CB out there ?

  • Manolas
  • Van Dijk
  • Gimenez
  • Marquinhos
  • Varane
  • Koulibaly
  • Romagnoli
  • Laporte
  • Lindelöf
  • Rugani
  • De Vrij
  • Pepe (on a free !)
Are you fecking kidding me ?
 
No way, i guess it would be easier to get Neuer now. AC Milan is arming, they already bought a player many had on our list (Kessie), probably soon to secure the second (Belotti). No way they are letting their biggest talent and new figurehead leave.
Bale and Griezmann would be nice, but i guess it's pretty unrealistic that we'd get both

  1. His current deal ends june 2018
  2. He hasn't signed a new deal
  3. Milan's offer for contract extension is with a €3.5m a year salary (and they can't and won't afford much more for him)
  4. His agent is Mino Raiola
Meaning ACM don't hold the cards in this. If Donna wants to go to make more money elsewhere, he will go and we would be a very likley destination if DDG leaves, if he is happy at ACM and wants to stay there, he will stay. But the decision is very much up to him, if he wants to go, not much ACM can do about it.

I don't know what sort off player he is but if he would come to United he could easily earn double the wage ACM will offer him which is a huge factor. Staying at ACM right now is very much chosing for a project but it is a very premature project, there are questionmarks about the chinese capital on which the entire project is build and it remains to be seen what sort of players ACM can attract. Sure they have been off to a good start but I really doubt they will be signing up players like Belotti for example, they will be trying for sure but I don't think they can afford such big moves already. Anyway there is a huge rebuild coming up at that club, it remains to be seen if Donnarumma wants to stick around for that for the next 4-5 years or if he will chose to go for the money and sign for a club like United. I would not discard either possiblity.
 
  1. His current deal ends june 2018
  2. He hasn't signed a new deal
  3. Milan's offer for contract extension is with a €3.5m a year salary (and they can't and won't afford much more for him)
  4. His agent is Mino Raiola
Meaning ACM don't hold the cards in this. If Donna wants to go to make more money elsewhere, he will go and we would be a very likley destination if DDG leaves, if he is happy at ACM and wants to stay there, he will stay. But the decision is very much up to him, if he wants to go, not much ACM can do about it.

I don't know what sort off player he is but if he would come to United he could easily earn double the wage ACM will offer him which is a huge factor. Staying at ACM right now is very much chosing for a project but it is a very premature project, there are questionmarks about the chinese capital on which the entire project is build and it remains to be seen what sort of players ACM can attract. Sure they have been off to a good start but I really doubt they will be signing up players like Belotti for example, they will be trying for sure but I don't think they can afford such big moves already. Anyway there is a huge rebuild coming up at that club, it remains to be seen if Donnarumma wants to stick around for that for the next 4-5 years or if he will chose to go for the money and sign for a club like United. I would not discard either possiblity.
The "not letting him go" quote was meant that they persuade him to stay, rather then forcing him to stay, which you rightly pointed out to be impossible. 3,5m for an 18 year old is insane already, i doubt that any 18-year old has earned that much money so far, definitely not in Serie A. I am pretty sure we won't offer him more, that would pretty much overthrow our already inflated wage structure. If he'd like to go to us, it would not be for the money. And i don't think there are different reasons for an 18 year old Italian, given that most of them still live at Mama aged 25. At his age most goalkeepers kick around in the U-19 teams. I'd say Kessie is already similar quality to Belotti, if you look at their undoubtedly very different positions. Kessie probably having the higher ceiling. Given Donnarumma will be 22 in 4 years, an age most goalkeepers are still no starters at their respective teams, he has all the time of the world to decide if/when to go. I stick with it, he won't go...definitely not this summer. Quote me if it happens
 
Anyone else a bit concerned with the fact that we haven't been heavily linked with a proper striker yet? I just don't think Rashford is ready to lead the line yet, even with Griezmann behind him, especially if we want to be challenging for the title next year.

As for the four players, I'll go with: Griezmann, Keane, Bakayoko, Silva
 
Anyone else a bit concerned with the fact that we haven't been heavily linked with a proper striker yet? I just don't think Rashford is ready to lead the line yet, even with Griezmann behind him, especially if we want to be challenging for the title next year.

As for the four players, I'll go with: Griezmann, Keane, Bakayoko, Silva
Personally i would have faith in Rashford to make the position his own, especially with the main goal scoring burden on Griezmann, could be great for his development. Would understand people who have reservations though, funnily enough i can see Mourinho trusting him after his showings at striker this season.
 
Griezmann and Bernardo Silva both seem like they're heavily linked and have been for a while. Always felt it would be one of the two, though I guess we could get both? Would make our attack brilliant though. A holding midfield is still necessary, as is a center back (Keane) and ideally a left back though I guess Mourinho might be okay with Darmian/Shaw/Blind.

Griezmann
Mkhitaryan Bernardo Silva
Pogba ????? Herrera
Darmian Keane Bailly Valencia
De Gea
Problem with this is it really isn't a Mourinho style team. Also still slightly lacking pace in attack, though a feck ton of quality and intelligence. Still feel like the midfield needs that holding mid, though the attack also needs a main striker. Which is kind of why I don't think Griezmann completely suits us but we'll see
 
Griezmann and Bernardo Silva both seem like they're heavily linked and have been for a while. Always felt it would be one of the two, though I guess we could get both? Would make our attack brilliant though. A holding midfield is still necessary, as is a center back (Keane) and ideally a left back though I guess Mourinho might be okay with Darmian/Shaw/Blind.

Griezmann
Mkhitaryan Bernardo Silva
Pogba ????? Herrera
Darmian Keane Bailly Valencia
De Gea
Problem with this is it really isn't a Mourinho style team. Also still slightly lacking pace in attack, though a feck ton of quality and intelligence. Still feel like the midfield needs that holding mid, though the attack also needs a main striker. Which is kind of why I don't think Griezmann completely suits us but we'll see

It's probably going to be Eric Dier isn't it...
 
No other good CB out there ?

  • Manolas
  • Van Dijk
  • Gimenez
  • Marquinhos
  • Varane
  • Koulibaly
  • Romagnoli
  • Laporte
  • Lindelöf
  • Rugani
  • De Vrij
  • Pepe (on a free !)
Are you fecking kidding me ?
I'm going to protest if we signed that dick Pepe. Don't care how good he may be. Absolutely despicable dude whose antics will only hurt us in the PL
 
Based on who we have been linked to so far:

Griezmann
Bernardo Silva
Eric Dier
Keane

I think I'll be happy with this. 200m gross spend. I don't know how we'll line up though with these signings. The best I can think of is

De Gea
Valencia Bailly Keane Shaw
Dier
Herrera Pogba
Silva Griezmann Mkhi​
 
Griezmann and Bernardo Silva both seem like they're heavily linked and have been for a while. Always felt it would be one of the two, though I guess we could get both? Would make our attack brilliant though. A holding midfield is still necessary, as is a center back (Keane) and ideally a left back though I guess Mourinho might be okay with Darmian/Shaw/Blind.

Griezmann
Mkhitaryan Bernardo Silva
Pogba ????? Herrera
Darmian Keane Bailly Valencia
De Gea
Problem with this is it really isn't a Mourinho style team. Also still slightly lacking pace in attack, though a feck ton of quality and intelligence. Still feel like the midfield needs that holding mid, though the attack also needs a main striker. Which is kind of why I don't think Griezmann completely suits us but we'll see

I think the way it could work out is either that Silva plays in a midfield 3 next to Pogba with Herrera as the DM, or it's the above lineup like you say and that in easier games Rashford is up top and in tougher ones, the DM plays and since we're playing to counter anyways Griezmann can lead the line just fine. He's certainly not worse at holding up the ball than Martial or Rashford anyways. It's true Mourinho has historically preferred a bully up top, but maybe he's just happy to have quality finishing after this season's problems in that regard.

I do think we'll sign a proper LB to push Shaw. Rojo has played well enough that I think a CB might even be lower priority than LB this summer.
 
If we sign Griezmann + Bernardo Silva and put them behind Rashford and sign Zlatan for another year it wouldn't be too bad. Martial is also another option.

We arent paying zlatan £340k per week when he is out injurred until midway of the season. Forget about it.
 
Griezmann
Silva
Dier
LB (no idea who)

Something like this:

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Interesting to see that very few want a new LB. Apart from attacker and a DM next to Herrera and Pogba I think that should be our top priority.
 
Interesting to see that very few want a new LB. Apart from attacker and a DM next to Herrera and Pogba I think that should be our top priority.
Who is out there? I'd imagine many still [rightly] hold hope for Shaw too.
 
It's probably going to be Eric Dier isn't it...


Don't get the Dier rumours. Can't see why Spurs would sell him to us. He's been more or less a mainstay in the Spurs side this season, who have came second in the league. He's also English. Pochettino loves bringing through young, English talents.

Personally, I think it'll be Danilo Periera from Porto.
 
Griezmann
Silva
Dier
LB (no idea who)

Something like this:

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If this happens, and it looks reasonable enough to me, I could also see Mata getting sold and us bringing in an experienced target striker as backup on a cheap transfer or loan like Chelsea did with Ba and Drogba. No idea who that would be. Negredo? Or we'll basically agree with Zlatan that he'll return and maybe we'll rip up the deal, pay him a bit while he rehabs then the same massive wages once he returns and can play at least once a week again.
 
I think this will be our lineup for the next season:

De Gea
Valencia Bailly New CB Shaw
Dier
Silva Pogba
Mkhitaryan Martial
Griezmann

Bench:
Romero - Darmian - Rojo - Fellaini - Herrera - Lingard - Rashford

I'm not sure who the new CB will but someone from this list I would be very happy with one of these:

  • Manolas
  • Gimenez
  • Marquinhos
  • Varane
  • Laporte
 
I think Mourinho sees Herrera as the deepest midfielder in a three. That would explain the links to Nainggolan or even Rodeiguez; Mourinho wants him to be a holding midfielder, not a box to box midfielder. For this reason I think Mourinho believes Hererra and Pogba can play together in a two, or with Herrera deepest in a three. I don't think we'll sign Dier.

I think our first XI might be something like:

Romero
Valencia - Bailly - Rojo - LB
Herrera - Pogba
Silva - Griezmann - Mkhitaryan
Rashford
In games where he opts for three central midfielders:

Romero
Valencia - Bailly - Rojo - LB
Herrera
CM - Pogba
Silva - Griezmann - Mkhitaryan​
 
Lots of Dier mentions. Surely nearly impossible. Spurs getting champions league money. They'd be crazy to weaken.

Out of the first team I think they could realistically replace him easier than the others.......which is the reason I don't want him here either.
 
Out of the first team I think they could realistically replace him easier than the others.......which is the reason I don't want him here either.

Talent-wise yes, but it might be hard to find a player who can comfortably switch between CB, DM and CM depending on what Pochettino wants. You need size, passing ability and a bit of athleticism. I'm not sure just plugging in whatever player Spurs could attract would be able to come in immediately. Maybe Krychowiak, who's failed at PSG, or N'Zonzi?
 
How would we feel if the four are:

Griezmann
Keane
Matuidi
Belotti

That's easily £200m depending on the Matuidi and Belotti prices.
 
Would people be happy with:

Greaseman
Keane
Dier
James
 
I just want a right winger so we can have real time width. We are absolutely blunt on that side of the pitch going forward, it compromises our counter attack as well as affects Pogba's game. He will have more freedom in mid-field if we have quality on both flanks.
 
I'm not sure why we need another CB. We already have Bailly, Smalling (and probably Jones) who are quite similar in style (good in the air, tend to outstrength/outjump opponents), and Blind as the other category (composed with ball at feet, smart reading of the match) with Rojo as a mix of both. At the moment I rate Rojo as our best CB (Bailly is still too rash, plus his awful clearances) and Bailly/Blind/Mike as the ideal partner. I honestly think each pairing has its own strengths/weaknesses and the players can complement each other. Of course whether Rojo could regain his form after injury is uncertain, but still I think Bailly/Smalling + Blind/Jones would work out fine. Seriously I don't see how options such as Keane, Lindelof or Van Dijk offer anything we didn't have already and on individual terms, I doubt that their footballing abilities surpass those of our own. Some here called our CBs average but forgot how they had to play behind a midfield who can't barely string passes together and constantly gives possession away (thus the long-ball-to-Fellaini strategy) Bringing in Pogba improved that but even his passing accuracy is unreliable. Herrera does not (and cannot) hold onto the ball. Carrick is near retirement.
Thus my point: bringing in another CB (even an excellent one) would not improve us greatly, but a good holding midfielder would, and that's where most of our money should go. Clearly such players are rare finds but I hope at least we snatch a potential one.
On a side note what I've seen so far from Mkhitaryan does not make me feel optimistic. Wish we could bring in someone who can actually dribble and get past defenders (or revive Martial somehow).
 
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