Oh yeah, that's crystal clear from that interview.
Mystery Player
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Oh yeah, that's crystal clear from that interview.
Sometimes you can wait too long to sign a player, and he will move to a different club.
We should have signed Silva earlier. With him, we would have an unstoppable side.
We should have signed Silva earlier. With him, we would have an unstoppable side.
Ashley Young does make a lot of sense. He's a versatile attacking player who can play on both sides and centrally behind a striker. He's English, at a good age with plenty of time for improvement, has an excellent fitness record (barely missed a game for four seasons running), he's a very good set-piece taker and has consistently provided a lot of goals in the Premier League (and scored a decent amount too) for 3/4 seasons in a row.
He's stalled over signing a new deal and his current contract expires in June 2012 so Villa would have little choice other than to sell him if we offered c. £15m in the Summer.
I thought he played very well against us at Villa Park and he was pretty lively at Old Trafford too. Can see this one happening.
He's stalled over signing a new deal and his current contract expires in June 2012 so Villa would have little choice other than to sell him if we offered c. £15m in the Summer.
I thought he played very well against us at Villa Park and he was pretty lively at Old Trafford too. Can see this one happening.
yeah it would destroy the club as we know it....wise up!
Also could be one of the guys from Dortmund. Would make sense they wouldn't sell until after the season.
Basically it could be anyone so this thread will grow to 50 pages
Basically it could be anyone so this thread will grow to 50 pages
Might as well have a go and we'll see in the summer.
I'll go with Kagawa
I'll go with Kagawa
I think the trouble with someone like Kagawa is that we've only really seen him in action for four months or so. I'd be surprised if we were tracking him when he was back in Japan but you never know. The commercial opportunities would excite me tremendously I must say.
We've seen Smalling for even less than that because he wasn't a first team player at Fulham when we signed him but still opted for it. And I don't think we've seen Bebe at all before we signed him, it was based on a reccomendation.
He hasn't said that we are going to sign said player in the Summer, only that we will make another try. Doubt we would be going after someone cup-tied in January, and I definitely cannot see us approaching for Modric or Bale as they were both clearly unavailable with Tottenham competing for top 4 and still in CL, we wouldn't have even tried. Besides we don't usually do deals in January, why would we all of a sudden be after a £40m player in the middle of a season that's gone well for us so far?
It must have been someone lower profile. Adam looks like a good guess as Blackpool definitely weren't prepared to let him go, Henderson is a good call to as Sunderland are in the middle of a fight for 6th so they would be reluctant to the idea of letting him go. I hope we get neither of them though as it'd be a sideways step for our midfield, we need an improvement of quality, not numbers.
Sanchez is a possiblity as Udinese are in a fight for 4th and it would bring them a lot of revenue so they wouldn't have liked to lose their influential player. Hopefully it's him but with Inter and possibly City (who want everyone) in contention in the Summer it will be tough to get him.
I normally wait for some kind of quote or something, but from previous windows I'm learning that with United usually there's no fire without smoke when it comes to bringing in quality footballers. We usually get linked at least once before we sign our most successful signings, Hernandez a clear exception.
So there were rumours of us sniffing around Kagawa and Dortmund not wanting to sell, during the window. I'd actually prefer Sahin if we're buying from Dortmund but there was no link there, so I'm happy with my pick
Could it be Chamberlain?
Bebe's an exception. Smalling was at Fulham for 18 months before we signed him and we were watching him when he was in their development squad, so he doesn't fit into the same category.
You don't think it was Ashley Young then?
Here's the Telegraph article, if anyone's interested:
Manchester United plan summer move for Ashley Young - Telegraph
Manchester United plan summer move for Ashley Young - Telegraph
I have no words. Except those. And those. And tho-
Basically, you're an enormous twat.
It was a joke. I'm glad you got a laugh out of it anyway.
I normally wait for some kind of quote or something, but from previous windows I'm learning that with United usually there's no fire without smoke when it comes to bringing in quality footballers. We usually get linked at least once before we sign our most successful signings, Hernandez a clear exception.
So there were rumours of us sniffing around Kagawa and Dortmund not wanting to sell, during the window. I'd actually prefer Sahin if we're buying from Dortmund but there was no link there, so I'm happy with my pick
This is the player that I feel would make the most sense for us, although we have not been linked for a long time and my guess is Bayern will get him.
Ronaldo back at Old Trafford?
No, seriously, this sounds like the usual 'we wanted to sign Villa, but he went to Barcelona and there' no value in the market' thing from Fergie. Or he's interested in Tschangu-pakschmu from Xiyu Peking.
So nothing to see here.
No, seriously, this sounds like the usual 'we wanted to sign Villa, but he went to Barcelona and there' no value in the market
' thing from Fergie. Or he's interested in Tschangu-pakschmu from Xiyu Peking.So nothing to see here.
Ah. In that case, consider me played.
As the nation's foremost transfer muppet, I can't help but be underwhelmed by all this talk of Average Young and that Oxygen-Chamber bloke. I was hoping for Messi, Bale, Maradona and Cruyff.
feck Ashley bloody Young, there's a talented boy at Napoli who they couldn't let go just now as they have a great shot at Serie A...
Downing played better than Young in both games against us this season.
Downing played better than Young in both games against us this season.
Regarding the suggestions made in this thread already;
Adam - he was available, Blackpool even accepted a bid from Spurs hours before the deadline so if he was a target we'd have got him. Even if Fergie wanted to do Blackpool a favour and not bid for him until the summer any interest from other clubs would of accelerated our interest, so it's not him
Henderson - another one that I highly doubt wasn't available for the right price, regarding him full stop though I've seen nothing to suggest he's good enough for United unlike someone like Rodwell who is another that I doubt we have a real pressing interest in due to his lack of games for Everton
Chamberlain - another that was available, I highly doubt he's a high priority either as he's one for the future rather than one for now
Young - lets not be silly now, why would there be a pressing interest now rather than his previous seasons when he's been better for Villa? That and he's not good enough for United
Sanchez - the most likely IMO, makes sense that Udinese wouldn't want to do business now, Fergie has been quoted as saying that we've been watching him as with him not being cup tied makes sense that he'd of been one of the few players we could of brought in during the January window
Bale - face facts as promising a player he is he'd cost a bomb, think 50m+ and you'd have the figure Spurs would want. I'm sure Fergie would want Bale at United but not for 50m+ not when someone like Sanchez would be available at less than half of that
Modric - the transfer muppet in me would love it to be him, but I somewhat doubt it
David de Gea - we will need a keeper in the summer but would one of been a priority for January given VDS would still be around and Lindegaard was brought in? I'm sure we'll sign one (not necessarily de Gea) but I doubt Fergie was talking about a keeper
Only question is if it is Sanchez is he the type of player we really need in the summer? Great player though he is with Nani, Park & Valencia (not to mention Giggs) do we need another winger? Or is he primarily a centre midfield player these days?
Adam - he was available, Blackpool even accepted a bid from Spurs hours before the deadline so if he was a target we'd have got him. Even if Fergie wanted to do Blackpool a favour and not bid for him until the summer any interest from other clubs would of accelerated our interest, so it's not him
Henderson - another one that I highly doubt wasn't available for the right price, regarding him full stop though I've seen nothing to suggest he's good enough for United unlike someone like Rodwell who is another that I doubt we have a real pressing interest in due to his lack of games for Everton
Chamberlain - another that was available, I highly doubt he's a high priority either as he's one for the future rather than one for now
Young - lets not be silly now, why would there be a pressing interest now rather than his previous seasons when he's been better for Villa? That and he's not good enough for United
Sanchez - the most likely IMO, makes sense that Udinese wouldn't want to do business now, Fergie has been quoted as saying that we've been watching him as with him not being cup tied makes sense that he'd of been one of the few players we could of brought in during the January window
Bale - face facts as promising a player he is he'd cost a bomb, think 50m+ and you'd have the figure Spurs would want. I'm sure Fergie would want Bale at United but not for 50m+ not when someone like Sanchez would be available at less than half of that
Modric - the transfer muppet in me would love it to be him, but I somewhat doubt it
David de Gea - we will need a keeper in the summer but would one of been a priority for January given VDS would still be around and Lindegaard was brought in? I'm sure we'll sign one (not necessarily de Gea) but I doubt Fergie was talking about a keeper
Only question is if it is Sanchez is he the type of player we really need in the summer? Great player though he is with Nani, Park & Valencia (not to mention Giggs) do we need another winger? Or is he primarily a centre midfield player these days?
Yeah but apparently Napoli have a 14 million euro clause in Cavani's loan deal. So that talented Napoli player who means they have a good shot in Serie A wont be available...
He's playing as or behind the striker. And can play on the right wing. Talented but a long shot considering these are our most stocked attacking positions
Re - 'pressing interest in Young now'. We ain't got much attacking choice on the wings at the mo and there's no guarantees of Valencia getting back properly this season. Also, we might move for him now due to his contract situation and maybe, cos of Valencia, we thought we'd try bring that forward.
Seems far more likely than the other names on here to me, although the Henderson one might be true. Don't think we'd have moved for Sanchez mid-season but just speculating I guess.
Seems far more likely than the other names on here to me, although the Henderson one might be true. Don't think we'd have moved for Sanchez mid-season but just speculating I guess.
Lets not forget Giggs will be 38 next season so it would be foolish to miss out on Sanchez who along with Nani, Valencia and Park would give us 4 quality options long term. I mean if we bought someone like Kagawa or Eriksen they would spend most gamess on the wing.
I agree, we dont need anymore wingers and with the amount of actual strikers we have at the club (with presumably Welbeck and Macheda coming back from their loan moves) we dont need any off the striker players either
Disagree with this;
Nani; best winger in the league, probably the first name on the team sheet these days
Valencia; when he's back how hard is it going to be to leave him on the bench? It seems inevitable that he'll eventually get back into the team with Nani switching to the left
Park; like Fletcher Fergie will always put his trust in Park for the big games because of the type of player he is, we could have Nani, Valencia & Young/Sanchez as options for out on the wing and Fergie would still go for Park IMO
Giggs; he may be 38 next season but he's not playing like a 37 year old at the moment is he?
I'd much rather have a central midfielder like Modric or Sahin then another winger. Valencia and Nani are definitely starters when fit. Park has been a great squad player for us and can do an excellent job outwide. Giggs just played a very solid 90 minutes outwide, and we have players like Obertan, Cleverley, and Bebe coming through the ranks who are very good options to have as a fifth/sixth choice.
We play a 4-4-2 in the easier games yes, but with a player with the goalscoring and support play such as Kagawa we could play a midfield 3 far more often than we do now. Over time we could ease him into a midfield 2 as well and develop him in a similar way to Scholes.
The same goes for Hamsik but we're likely to go with the cheaper option...
As we often note, in the past we've replaced important players with different sorts of players. Replacing the current, deeper, playmaking Scholes with a goalscoring midfielder might be one way to do that and it could also give more responsibility in creating to Anderson and Carrick, asking them to go to the next level with their passing to take over the mantle. Perhaps it would also make sense to sign the goalscoring midfielder we havent had for a while given that Berbatov is becoming increasingly important to the side and said player is likely to link up well around him and Gibson hasnt made any progress this season.
If we sign another winger it'd easily be the best idea to sign someone who plays on the left. Nani is clearly better on the right, Valencia plays on the right, Park doesnt really play like a winger so it doesnt matter. And if the idea would be to use Sanchez on the left... Well has he ever played there? I've never seen it. We did this with Nani, signing a right sided player and putting them on the left and there were a lot of complaints about him not performing there. There's no reason to think it'd be different with another right winger bought and played on the left unless they've done it plenty of times before.
Hopefully we don't get any one of Henderson, De Gea or Young.
I agree, the keeper looks promising but far too young to be United's number 1
I would be surprised if we ever move towards 4-3-3 regulalry under Fergie, it has always seemed to be a formation he plays out of neccesity rather than want. So I just don't think he'd buy a player who is suited primarily to that system.
If we could find a goal scoring midfielder we can play in a 2 man midfield I could see Fergie maybe opting to switch responsibilities for Carrick or Anderson, however I think it's more likely he looks for another player who has proven he can control tempo and spread play from midfield, and just entrust our strikers and wide men to score the goals even in 4-3-3.
These days many teams play with their wingers on the opposite side to their natural foot, or they play a false winger who is more of a playmaker, like Modric was initially for Spurs, and Giggs has been doing that a lot in his latter years, although he can still cut wide and cross when needed, but finding a player who can do both like Giggs is obviously going to be hard, however I could see Sanchez doing it as he seems comfortable on either foot and is great centrally.
Every time I've seen Sanchez play he's played wide right, my point with that is that by playing players in what is not their natural position sees you not getting the best from that player
The same can be said in regards to Nani, everyone is looking forward to Valencia being fit again and whilst he had a great season out on the right for us last season it was during that time that Nani was getting the most stick, Valencia get's injured/rested Nani comes in on the right and hey presto he's looking the player we all hoped he would be
Whilst Nani can play on the left personally I hope even with Valencia back we keep Nani on the right as that's where he's at his best
If we sign a winger we really need to sign one that is left footed or at least plays equally as well on the left. Not sure if that applies to Sanchez as I haven't seen enough of him
I feel the same way about the Nani/Valencia situation. He has enjoyed his best season ever on the right and Fergie has openly stated he likes playing there, I know people point out he can produce when he plays left as well such is his talent, but he whips that ball in so briskly on his right and has proven very dangerous cutting in on his left and shooting, it just seems a shame to upset his rhythm.
Aside from Bale and Mata I can't think of too many top quality left sided wingers, although Hazard has played from the left as a false winger for Lile on a few occasions.
Smalling hardly played that much at Fulham, Hernandez was unproven on the big stage and there was Bebe. It's not always about the 'now'. We don't really need one right now although a sure thing in CM is more than welcomed, but we hardly ever bought a sure thing.
Valencia-Anderson/Fletcher-Carrick-Nani
Berbatov-Rooney
Not much wrong in that.
Haven't seen anything of Hazard but Mata is one that I really do rate, highly doubt he's the one Fergie is on about though
I'd say you're right as I don't recall us ever being linked with him, in fact the only English club I can remember being linked with him was Liverpool when Benitez was there.
I hope they don't just buy the guy and that's that. I hope its dramatic like WWE. They buy him secretly and then in the middle of first game next year, he rips off the jersey and underneath is ours. Teams, fans and pundits are all shocked as the game goes from 11 v 11 to 12 v 10.
Football is missing such drama.
Football is missing such drama.
Smalling, Hernandez, Bebe none of those were big signings though were they? Obviously we could all be interpreting Fergie's quote wrongly and you may be bang on but I would imagine going 'all out' to get a player in the summer would mean a big name established straight into the starting 11 type of player rather than one that will probably play a bit part role for the first couple of years
Its Wesley Sneijder.
No, probably Aaron Doran from Blackburn. Amazing prospect, think he's already better than Diego