Muralitharan best bowler ever?

Well, no doubt we'll see more chucking in future years

Unrealistic to assume bowlers will actively change their style, at potentially high cost if it doesn't work.

Either way, it's irrelevant what other bowlers decide to do. The point is, he's the best bowler in the world in a similar way to the the way I would be, if I kept running past the crease and bowled it from two yards away.

I can see it now. Sri Lankan parents sending their kids to the blacksmiths to get their arms permantly bent so they have a better chance of making it big. Soon it will be a prerequisate to even be considered in the Sri Lankan cricket team that your arm is shaped funny and you can all bowl the doosra.
 
whats wrong with u englishmen?? cant accept someone from the 3rd world country owning ** ass??

WORLDS BEST BOWLER: MURALITHARAN.

MURALI > Warne
 
whats wrong with u englishmen?? cant accept someone from the 3rd world country owning ** ass??

WORLDS BEST BOWLER: MURALITHARAN.

MURALI > Warne

WARNE > murali

and change 'bowler' for 'chucker' and you would be about right

and it's 'you' and 'your', and 'a' third world country, if you insist on using those terms

i hope this helps
 
hey Frosty, why don't u get ** racist ass out of this thread? You have made several posts claiming the same false thing which has been proven to be false aswell.

You keep spamming this thread with the same bs again and again. I've no other choice but to report u if u keep this up.


MURALITHARAN WORLDS BEST BOWLER!!! WARNE LICKS HIS HEELS.
 
WARNE > murali

and change 'bowler' for 'chucker' and you would be about right

and it's 'you' and 'your', and 'a' third world country, if you insist on using those terms

i hope this helps

or change 'Warne' with 'druggie'.
 
Well, no doubt we'll see more chucking in future years

Unrealistic to assume bowlers will actively change their style, at potentially high cost if it doesn't work.

Either way, it's irrelevant what other bowlers decide to do. The point is, he's the best bowler in the world in a similar way to the the way I would be, if I kept running past the crease and bowled it from two yards away.
Nope. Anyone can do that and would do it well. Others are allowed to do what Murli and technically most do cross the earlier set limit just like he does, just that they're not as good as him. Fantastic bowler really, they can all try but very few would be able to turn the way he does, just like very would like Warne does copying his action. Its not even comparable to crossing the crease and handling the ball, those are not allowed, this is. Blaaaah
 
Does the extent of his 'cheating' really make that much difference though? I mean, with Malinga, it looks fairly outrageous to me - he looks like he's using his body to generate more pace, like a boxer throwing a right - he's quite literally throwing the ball. But with Murali, he's not really gaining any advantage from the bent arm, it seems to me.

Warne is clearly greater, though.
 
I'm also saying that your analogies are off. He's clearly a great bowler, even if you question whether or not his action was legitimate. His action was passed by the authorities, and it would not have been possible to perform as well as he has done if he couldn't bowl.
 
I'm also saying that your analogies are off. He's clearly a great bowler, even if you question whether or not his action was legitimate. His action was passed by the authorities, and it would not have been possible to perform as well as he has done if he couldn't bowl.

Yeah, cos the ICC are totally reliable when it comes to cheating in cricket. A system was set up to pass him, not test him. It's patently obvious to the naked eye that he chucks it.

Maybe he can bowl brilliantly. i don't know, I've rarely if ever seen him bowl.

But your central point - that Malinga is also a cheat - is spot on.
 
Thing is, surely there should be a rule about where the arm is, as well. I could, theoretically, not bend my arm at all, but throw it from my waist, and use the rotation of my body to get pace. That can't be cricket, surely. It's not the way I was cocking taught, anyway.
 
Sir Garfield Sobers substantiates his belief that Murali is not a chucker.

“As far as what I see, it is very difficult to be able to track a ball with off break action that turns some leg to off, very difficult, you can't chuck that. Because it comes over the top, you can't chuck. You’ve got to bowl it. Muralitharan’s hand is never straight and that is one of the things. He starts very close to his chest. He doesn't start like a normal bowler with arms up there where it is stretched out already. You don't chuck with your wrist, but you chuck with your elbow. And the definition of chuck, if the world has forgotten, is the straightening of elbow at the point of delivery and his (Muralitharan’s) elbow does not straighten at the point of delivery,”
 
:lol:
I dont care. Hes Lankan, i dont even know why im defending him.
 
Seriously no cricket fan can rate Murali above blondee(sp).
 
Seriously no cricket fan can rate Murali above blondee(sp).
Cmon Sultan. I mean really dont care much for him but Murli is statistically superior, and never got absolutely battered by the best players of spin at that time. Thats why i felt Mcgrath was greater than Warne. If there ever was a test for the leggie it was against India, and we took him apart. The Sachin Warne duel was hyped for months and Sachin make him look pathetic. Not doubting his greatness but that goes severely against him, whereas Murli bowled fabulously even to us. The one spinner who made us appear clueless at times. Theres definately a case for him being better IMO. Generally its up for debate.
 
Warne's awesome, but Murali on his day is just unplayable. Bamboozled many top batsmen with all his variations e.g. the doosra. He is NOT a chucker, his action has been approved by the ICC on several occasions.
 
Thing is, surely there should be a rule about where the arm is, as well. I could, theoretically, not bend my arm at all, but throw it from my waist, and use the rotation of my body to get pace. That can't be cricket, surely. It's not the way I was cocking taught, anyway.

There is a rule which states the arm should be over your waist at the point of delivery and if you look at Malinga in slow motion you can see that his arm is clearly above his waist when releasing the ball. The same could be said of Tait's action which is different to most fast bowlers.
 
Cmon Sultan. I mean really dont care much for him but Murli is statistically superior, and never got absolutely battered by the best players of spin at that time. Thats why i felt Mcgrath was greater than Warne. If there ever was a test for the leggie it was against India, and we took him apart. The Sachin Warne duel was hyped for months and Sachin make him look pathetic. Not doubting his greatness but that goes severely against him, whereas Murli bowled fabulously even to us. The one spinner who made us appear clueless at times. Theres definately a case for him being better IMO. Generally its up for debate.

OK

Lets call it evens
 
OK

Lets call it evens
Hehe sure. No i'm just curious as to why you say that. Because of the chucking aspect or purely as bowlers? Because Warne to me seems to render the South Africans and Englishmen clueless mostly who just cant play spin anyway whereas Murli does it on every frickin track against every team. I just thinks its very debatable.
 
I used to love watching Abdul Qadir, not just because he was a bowling genius but for being daft.
 
Seriously no cricket fan can rate Murali above blondee(sp).

Why not? I've read articles where several cricketers have said that Murali is harder to play than Warne.

Here's one for you,

Murali better than Warne, Pietersen says

England batsman Kevin Pietersen believes Sri Lanka spinner Muttiah Muralitharan is the best bowler in the world and harder to face than Shane Warne.

Pietersen, the world's top ranked one-day batsman, will face off-spinner Muralitharan on Wednesday when England clash with Sri Lanka in a World Cup Super Eights match in Antigua.

"Muralitharan is the hardest bowler in the world to face," Pietersen said. "Much harder (than Warne). He is a true great of the game.

"Murali spins the ball both ways whereas Warney you can sort of counteract."

Warne, who retired after Australia's 5-0 Ashes test whitewash over England in January, was known for his sledging but Pietersen said Muralitharan lets his bowling do the talking.

"Muralitharan just winds you up because he knows he is going to get you out. He just smiles and laughs. 'Silent assassin' I call him.

"He has so much talk with the cricket ball he doesn't have to say much," added Pietersen, who plays with Warne at English county side Hampshire.
 
Right.

I use my democratic right to change my mind.

Warne never really mastered the wrong un or the googly.

Phil Tufnell
 
Right.

I use my democratic right to change my mind.

Warne never really mastered the wrong un or the googly.

Phil Tufnell

:D

Met Tufnell in Lord's a couple of months ago, came across as a decent bloke.
 
whats wrong with u englishmen?? cant accept someone from the 3rd world country owning ** ass??

WORLDS BEST BOWLER: MURALITHARAN.

MURALI > Warne

ah, you're back then, are you?

Murali better than Warne, Pietersen says

England batsman Kevin Pietersen believes Sri Lanka spinner Muttiah Muralitharan is the best bowler in the world and harder to face than Shane Warne.

Pietersen, the world's top ranked one-day batsman, will face off-spinner Muralitharan on Wednesday when England clash with Sri Lanka in a World Cup Super Eights match in Antigua.

"Muralitharan is the hardest bowler in the world to face," Pietersen said. "Much harder (than Warne). He is a true great of the game.

"Murali spins the ball both ways whereas Warney you can sort of counteract."

Warne, who retired after Australia's 5-0 Ashes test whitewash over England in January, was known for his sledging but Pietersen said Muralitharan lets his bowling do the talking.

"Muralitharan just winds you up because he knows he is going to get you out. He just smiles and laughs. 'Silent assassin' I call him.

"He has so much talk with the cricket ball he doesn't have to say much," added Pietersen, who plays with Warne at English county side Hampshire.

of course that has nothing to do with mind games against his old BFF...he totally means that :smirk:
 
ah, you're back then, are you?



of course that has nothing to do with mind games against his old BFF...he totally means that :smirk:
Hehe to be fair i think he just might. Didnt he thrash Warne a couple of times? Doubt hes been able to do that to Murli.
 
ah, you're back then, are you?



of course that has nothing to do with mind games against his old BFF...he totally means that :smirk:

Maybe but he has always played very well against Warne something which he hasn't done against Murali.