I'm not sure, if the board deem this season rescuable without Moyes in anyway he'll be sacked before the season ends.
Moyes So Far!
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If he's not sacked by the end of the season I'm going to be terrified. I simply do not trust him and I fear he will end up doing more harm than good during the transfer window.
I think a new manager will benefit from having the summer to make the necessary adjustments. Of course, the last time we gave a new manager one of those it backfired in epic fashion.
I think a new manager will benefit from having the summer to make the necessary adjustments. Of course, the last time we gave a new manager one of those it backfired in epic fashion.
I suppose it comes down to who is available in the summer. The club won't sack Moyes if there's no better option attainable, will they? If Klopp expresses any interest we should go all out for him.
It's only since the Liverpool match that the media in general have really begun to talk about how precarious his position looks, he was unlikely to be sacked prior to yesterday and won't be sacked straight after having won. Still wouldn't rule out him being nixed prior to the quarters if we have a 'mare in the league before then. But the end of the season looks most likely now.
Yeah, there's nothing to suggest that his job is under threat. We seem very very committed to giving him a "proper go" at this. He'll get two years minimum I reckon. All of which is a bit depressing given he's a bit crap for this level.
Yeah, it's all a bit disheartening.
He'll do better next season (how could he not?), despite not doing as well as he should, and will probably get another season after that. Exciting times.
But at least we'll be able to look back and say we gave him a fair shot (read way way too long) at it. That will make us better than everyone else.
Kinell, proper pit of despair here.
There's a good chance West Ham will do us over on Saturday, it's been a shit place for us to go at times and their home form is quite good of late, then comes City a few days later. Both those clubs have things to play for, we don't, it will give them the edge over us.
Remaining fixtures.
West Ham A
City H
Villa H
Newcastle A
Everton A
Norwich H
Sunderland H
Hull H
Southampton A
Even if we win all our games up until the Everton game, that game is the point when it will be mathematically impossible for us to get fourth. I expect him to get sacked after the Everton game, it always comes back to a Everton
Remaining fixtures.
West Ham A
City H
Villa H
Newcastle A
Everton A
Norwich H
Sunderland H
Hull H
Southampton A
Even if we win all our games up until the Everton game, that game is the point when it will be mathematically impossible for us to get fourth. I expect him to get sacked after the Everton game, it always comes back to a Everton
I dont because he wont change his tactics and he wont be able to sign the players he wants. Chelsea, City, Arsenal and Liverpool are all going for big signings in the summer, plus who knows how many continental clubs. Already seen this week that Chelsea are virtually guaranteed to get Shaw and City want Carvalho.
I do find it telling that Giggsy refused to acknowledge Moyes in the after match interview. He could've come out and at least publicly supported the man in light of recent reports of a rift between the two of them. Maybe some managerial change is underway ? 
Fcuk yeah ! Sack him at half time and leave him at Goodison Park along with the rest of our backroom Everton mafia.
Even if we win all our games up until the Everton game, that game is the point when it will be mathematically impossible for us to get fourth. I expect him to get sacked after the Everton game, it always comes back to a Everton
Fcuk yeah ! Sack him at half time and leave him at Goodison Park along with the rest of our backroom Everton mafia.
He will do better. He simply can't do worse. Roy Hodgson couldn't do worse.
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That happened? I saw the interview and didn't hear anything of the sort.I do find it telling that Giggsy refused to acknowledge Moyes in the after match interview. He could've come out and at least publicly supported the man in light of recent reports of a rift between the two of them. Maybe some managerial change is underway ?
http://thescore.thejournal.ie/bill-oherlihy-david-moyes-quote-1371661-Mar2014/
Interesting stats about Moyes coming up in RTE
yet another example of why RTE should put those old feckers out to pasture and bring in some young blood. That shower of eejits was around when I was a kid, and that was over 25 years ago.Basically it was something like this :
Geoff Shreeves : Was it more satisfying Ryan given the pressure on the manager to turn it around ?
Giggs : There's pressure with disappointing performance and results. Like Wayne said we owed the fans because they're unbelievable.
Full stop. Could've said the manager inspired us given the heat Moyes is under but didn't. Didn't even mention his name. Similar to Carrick earlier non-committal. Also contrary to Moyes' suggestion that we're primed to win the Champion's League, Giggs said we're not getting carried away. Maybe I'm reading too much into it to suit the anti-Moyes agenda.
Thing is, it's easy to be a football manager (you can be one, even mediocre) - just play young things because young players are the future, use older experienced incredible players only sparingly and then find/train someone young who can be the next Giggsy etc...
Every average man can have this theory, act on it and be an average manager.
What is important to be a manager of a club like United is, you need to have vision, have the guts and courage and ability to deploy players efficiently and effectively. The major issue is, players like Giggsy (and the class of 92 in one club) achieving successfully over a decade or more come by once in a blue moon.
The master stroke of getting Scholesy out of retirement, engaging the service of Henrik Larsson for half a season... to name but a few, would be something beyond the imagination of many average managers.
In a nutshell, while it is easy to say, "don't use older player" (and you understand why they don't), leaving out Giggsy when we were desperately desperately needing points is plain irresponsible, careless and unacceptable. Managers should never be allowed to use "transitional periods" as excuses for making stupid/irresponsible decisions.
maybe, what I do think is obvious is that Moyes has had many fractions with players (feel he lost the dressing room at some point ages ago but that's just an assumption). The players aren't fans of his you feel.I reckon you or I or even next doors cat are probably a better option, judging on what we've seen so far. We keep hoping upon hope he's going to turn it round but even if he can I've completely gone off him, even just hearing his voice annoys me at times.
I think a complete lack of faith in Moyes from the group of players is very possible. But I doubt Giggs in that instance meant it in that manner. I mean, it's a really daft question, isn't it? What does Ryan Giggs owe Moyes ? Heck , if anything, after where he's lead this team, it's Moyes who owes Manchester United.
Isn't there an old saying that losing the dressing room is the cardinal sin of being a manager and a final nail on the coffin ? Please be true...
There's probably only two or three managers who the club would look to replace Moyes with. It is a difficult situation we find ourselves in, the club made a balls of it last summer.
Hmm you're right he doesn't owe Moyes. However being a player manager if he supported David even a bit he could've said something fabricated to the tune of - we all support him doesn't matter what the outsiders say. Or something like that you know. That's why his non-committal suggests Moyes doesn't have the backing of senior figures and the Red Issue rumours of "what have you won boss" are true..
I actually can't believe how poor our succession planning has been, looking at how the players have reacted to the bereavement of Ferguson retiring. Likely the only option would have been to have him retire as part of the back room staff for a season, whilst he handed over the reigns to his successor yet still held a managerial role within the club. The transition has just been to much for all concerned, the only other option from that would have been to appoint a proven top manager, we failed to do either and are rightly paying the price.
Our situation is completely unique to any other football club and should have been treated as such, it's not just Moyes that's acted completely clueless in all this mess, the board have made an unholy cock up too and that does include SAF and Bobby too......fecking hindsight eh.
I've always thought he'd get 2 and a half years minimum. Glazers will get more concerned sometime December next season, but then fergie will step in and buy him another year to 18 months.
RVP comes out and says Moyes/training etc is spot on, and its written off as propoganda. Giggs doesn't mention Moyes and he hates him. Whether you mean it to be or not, it is an anti-Moyes agenda.
http://sport.uk.msn.com/football/moyes-eyes-european-success
Bless him: one win against arguably the weakest team in the 2nd round, and all of a sudden we are a match for anyone in Europe. Can't fault his belief I suppose.
Bless him: one win against arguably the weakest team in the 2nd round, and all of a sudden we are a match for anyone in Europe. Can't fault his belief I suppose.
He's been lambasted for doing the opposite from the day he became manager. I'd rather he said stuff like that to be honest.
It has actually gotten to the point where he will be criticised no matter what he says. And that's coming from someone who isn't too keen on him. He can't win.
Right he'll get slagged no matter what he says. Only way to redemption for him is to shut his gob and show some change on the field. If he can do that all of us Moyes haters will readily eat the crow.
I would be happy that he said things like that if I half expected us to get results against the top teams. So far this season we have scored a grand total of 5 goals in 10 games, 3 of those against Spurs. I like he has come out and said it, but I feel it will mean diddly squat to the players.
He can say what he wants if we're winning games.
He can say what he wants period,a bunch of angry keyboard bashers won't change that.
Anyone can say anything they want. This is heading to such great intellectual heights.
He seems very perky and smiley for someone who has managed to inspire our squad to look so miserable and play so poorly. Don't know what he's on but it would seem sensible to give the players a bit of it.
Course, he might not be on anything except the knowledge that the board were daft enough to give him a 6 yr contract.
Course, he might not be on anything except the knowledge that the board were daft enough to give him a 6 yr contract.
I wouldn't be critical of that personally.
The smiling is more of a "it's so bad you might as well laugh at it" smile.
So it's a smile that's apparently like a laugh. Fecking hell.
Each to our own I suppose. Eventually he'll realise that it's time to take his situation seriously.
I'm sure he does. But it's not easy when things go this horribly wrong. Haven't you sometimes smirked when things are properly messed up? Almost feeling sorry for yourself by doing that?
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