Moyes So Far!

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Well, who wouldn't like seeing Vidic, Rio, and Evra kissing the Big Ear for the last time in red shirts? Just imagining it almost bring tears.
 
We had less possession, less attempts, and less passes than them. We may have been better, but we didn't "outplay" them. It was a relatively even game all in all.

The possession stats were marginal, we had more attempts on target, including hitting the post, and great if they had a few more square passes in their own half then us then so be it.

It was a fairly close game, but only really because of the result in the first leg. I'm not seeing this as a new dawn or anything stupid, it's just nice to enjoy a win and a clean sheet after that debacle on Sunday. I appreciate that the 'enjoy the moment' mantra is pretty lame, but hell we needed it. That is a pretty brutal looking quarter final line-up though...
 
I can't see him going till we're out of Europe now, and probably not till the end of the season. It's weird not being at the end of March yet and there being absolutely no pressure on us any more.
 
The sad thing is that our bar is pretty low nowadays.

We beat Olympic-fecking-Kos and not Bayern Munich. Twelve months ago we would not even have blinked an eye lash winning at home to the champions of the Greek Super-League.
 
jaysus can we let the sack talk die for one night? Felt awesome to rekindle the spirit of what our boys did against Barcelona at OT 30 years ago. Funnily enough, RVP's pen was around the same time we scored our first goal against Barca that night. Football bloody hell
 
jaysus can we let the sack talk die for one night? Felt awesome to rekindle the spirit of what our boys did against Barcelona at OT 30 years ago. Funnily enough, RVP's pen was around the same time we scored our first goal against Barca that night. Football bloody hell
Yes because beating olympiacos is the same thing as beating Barcelona...
Great come back or whatever, but they're a shit team, it's on par with coming back to win against a relegation candidate like we did with stoke earlier in the season. You expect to win these games by this score line, just not lose the first game.
 
Yes because beating olympiacos is the same thing as beating Barcelona...
Great come back or whatever, but they're a shit team, it's on par with coming back to win against a relegation candidate like we did with stoke earlier in the season. You expect to win these games by this score line, just not lose the first game.
but for fecks sake mate i'm not even putting it on that kind of level. Of course you expect to win these games. We almost got knocked out but they were not clinical. Still and yet, it was an enjoyable game and for the first 60 or so minutes a solid team performance. I had my gripes from tactical standpoint and other things but it was just nice to see players putting in a lot of effort and for moyes too.

I dont think he should be here much longer but on a human level, I sympathise with him. For once, he can have a good night's sleep. Reality will settle in soon but considering how shite we've been i'm trying to enjoy what little bits of quality and good football we see
 
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When we beat Leverkusen 5-0, he said "the best is yet to come". And we saw the best.
Yesterday, he said "Manchester United can be a match for any team..." Egg in the face? Did somebody say "Get him out pronto?"
 
but for fecks sake mate i'm not even putting it on that kind of level. Of course you expect to win these games. We almost got knocked out but they were not clinical. Still and yet, it was an enjoyable game and for the first 60 or so minutes a solid team performance. I had my gripes from tactical standpoint and other things but it was just nice to see players putting in a lot of effort and for moyes too.

I dont think he should be here much longer but on a human level, I sympathise with him. For once, he can have a good night's else. Reality will settle in soon but considering how shite we've been i'm trying to enjoy what little bits of quality and good football we see
True. I'm delighted we finally had a good night where we had an important win, not just a win against west brom or crystal palace that doesn't really do anything. I'm just saying people shouldn't get too carried away. We're in the quarter finals and a lot depends on who we draw. Whatever happens my opinion on the manager is the same, and he should still go, but yeah I'm happy for him. You could tell how happy he was at the second goal.
 
but for fecks sake mate i'm not even putting it on that kind of level. Of course you expect to win these games. We almost got knocked out but they were not clinical. Still and yet, it was an enjoyable game and for the first 60 or so minutes a solid team performance. I had my gripes from tactical standpoint and other things but it was just nice to see players putting in a lot of effort and for moyes too.

I dont think he should be here much longer but on a human level, I sympathise with him. For once, he can have a good night's else. Reality will settle in soon but considering how shite we've been i'm trying to enjoy what little bits of quality and good football we see

This, I've been critizing him all year round, but tonite, I feel genuinely feel happy for him, must have been a good nite sleep for him
 
True. I'm delighted we finally had a good night where we had an important win, not just a win against west brom or crystal palace that doesn't really do anything. I'm just saying people shouldn't get too carried away. We're in the quarter finals and a lot depends on who we draw. Whatever happens my opinion on the manager is the same, and he should still go, but yeah I'm happy for him. You could tell how happy he was at the second goal.
i dont think anyone is getting carried away. football is a funny game though. i didnt expect that performance although i was hoping for one but the moments this game gives you is really really special. pretty soon my head will come to roost and tell me how much i'm overreacting but i was over the moon when RVP struck the third. just feels good to enjoy a moment like this. because we got west ham and city coming up and who knows where we'll be by then
 
I have to be honest, I didn't bother waking up for it in the first half after seeing the lineup ( the match was at 3am here). Then got up in the second half to check the scores when I needed to go to the toilet. Ended up watching the second half, but I honestly didn't have any emotions when rvp scored. Ended up watching that crappy last 20 minutes as well.

I honestly hate moyes after the season he's put us through.
 
The problem with last night is we should be delighted that we won, which we all are, however it has us all worried that the Manchester United board are that stupid that one victory against a very average side at home and suddenly Moyes gets his extra year to put things right. That couldn't be true though, that victory was a blip among failures and I assume and hope the board recognise that. Unless we go on to win the CL of course....
 
The sad thing is that our bar is pretty low nowadays.

We beat Olympic-fecking-Kos and not Bayern Munich. Twelve months ago we would not even have blinked an eye lash winning at home to the champions of the Greek Super-League.

We can only beat Olympic-fecking-aKos when we are playing Olympic-fecking-aKos, not Bayern Munich.

You have to look at things in perspective. The team hasn't done well all season and went into the tie 2 goals down from the first leg. It was a great win for a team not at its best and struggling at the moment. Last night was a moment to savour in an otherwise dull season. We have no entitlement to be the best team in the world at all times. Good times and bad times go hand in hand. If anything this period makes me appreciate more what we were able to achieve under Sir Alex.

I would seriously question anyone's motive to follow a team if they felt they had to lower their bar in order to enjoy the win last night.

Now I'm aware that we are even worse domestically and as erratic as any team could get. We are being managed by a man who, as nice a fella as he seems, seems completely overwhelmed by the task at hand. We have gaps and holes everywhere and are relying on a 40 year old god to drag us through glorious midweek matches.

So, it would have been all rosy if we were being dragged by a 25 year old? When did football become more about age than talent? How many players in the world do you think can pull those passes that Giggs made last night?
 
What the feck are you talking about? They've just won their domestic league. In March.

They also qualified from their group ahead of Benfica (who've just schooled Spurs at White Hart Lane last week) and just behind PSG, a team who many rank as the 3rd/4th best team in Europe at present.

Cut the fúcking bullshit. Tonight was a marvellous result. To know you need to win 3-0 in order to progress and then going ahead and achieving it is no mean feat.

Give the man some due.

They are pretty shit to be honest. You're making Benfica sound like Real Madrid.
 
Moyes has yet to address the holes in our team. He deserve the opportunity to at least replace the aging and inefficient players he was given. Moyes was given a team that needed immediate changes and he failed to do that last summer and winter due to circumstances like not having the right players available and/or wanting to analyze the type of players he had. Come this summer, I would believe he would make these quality addition and things will be much better.

Even though I despise his philosophy, he has the correct work ethic and passion for a United manager.

He was given a squad that while far from perfect it has won the league comfortably. After taking the CHAMPIONS and spending more then 60M we're still 7th.
 
I have to be honest, I didn't bother waking up for it in the first half after seeing the lineup ( the match was at 3am here). Then got up in the second half to check the scores when I needed to go to the toilet. Ended up watching the second half, but I honestly didn't have any emotions when rvp scored. Ended up watching that crappy last 20 minutes as well.

I honestly hate moyes after the season he's put us through.

You sound more like you've fallen out of love with football.
 
He was given a squad that while far from perfect it has won the league comfortably. After taking the CHAMPIONS and spending more then 60M we're still 7th.
We only won the league comfortably because the others were so poor. Do you honestly think that players go on performing at the same level for ever? Far more experienced and qualified people than you or I - and probably anyone on here - have recognised that Moyes was handed a squad that had given all it had to give and now needed major surgery. That will happen in the Summer. If there's no improvement in both performances and results by December I'll join those calling for Moyes to go, but not until then.
 
We only won the league comfortably because the others were so poor. Do you honestly think that players go on performing at the same level for ever? Far more experienced and qualified people than you or I - and probably anyone on here - have recognised that Moyes was handed a squad that had given all it had to give and now needed major surgery. That will happen in the Summer. If there's no improvement in both performances and results by December I'll join those calling for Moyes to go, but not until then.

Oh dear :rolleyes:
 
We only won the league comfortably because the others were so poor. Do you honestly think that players go on performing at the same level for ever? Far more experienced and qualified people than you or I - and probably anyone on here - have recognised that Moyes was handed a squad that had given all it had to give and now needed major surgery. That will happen in the Summer. If there's no improvement in both performances and results by December I'll join those calling for Moyes to go, but not until then.

There's no excuse for us being 7th. You'd have had a point if we were 3rd or 4th, but 7th is absolutely abysmal and Moyes has to take the blame for it more than anyone else.

1st to 7th... We could have sold van Persie and Carrick before the season and I still would've expected more than 7th.
 
There's no excuse for us being 7th. You'd have had a point if we were 3rd or 4th, but 7th is absolutely abysmal and Moyes has to take the blame for it more than anyone else.

1st to 7th... We could have sold van Persie and Carrick before the season and I still would've expected more than 7th.
In my view 3rd or 4th was always an unreal expectation.
 
I think what rednotdead is trying to say is that our squad wasn't as good as people though. That along with a switch in manager has led to our current position. As the new manager gets used to the ropes, we will be better off.

I don't particularly agree since the quality of our football has been quite depressing. Though I would obviously love it if it suddenly just fell in place.
 
We only won the league comfortably because the others were so poor. Do you honestly think that players go on performing at the same level for ever? Far more experienced and qualified people than you or I - and probably anyone on here - have recognised that Moyes was handed a squad that had given all it had to give and now needed major surgery. That will happen in the Summer. If there's no improvement in both performances and results by December I'll join those calling for Moyes to go, but not until then.

We got 89 pointd last season FFS. Do you think that normally would see us 4th or 7th but miraculously won the title last year because everyone was shit?
 
In my view 3rd or 4th was always an unreal expectation.
For a team that won the league and was bolstered with two multimillion signings?

You are absolutely batshit crazy. Our playerd are criminally underrated, they matched Real Madrid last year, now they are hammered by Liverpool, West Brom, Everton and Newcastle casually.
 
There's no excuse for us being 7th. You'd have had a point if we were 3rd or 4th, but 7th is absolutely abysmal and Moyes has to take the blame for it more than anyone else.

1st to 7th... We could have sold van Persie and Carrick before the season and I still would've expected more than 7th.

Just give up, he's one of the remaining die hard moyes can do no wrong brigade. Even Rpitoda has mellowed down lately :rolleyes:
 
Just give up, he's one of the remaining die hard moyes can do no wrong brigade. Even Rpitoda has mellowed down lately :rolleyes:
These fecking players cannot give Moyes the football he wants. He's done tremendously well, players have been letting him down.
 
We only won the league comfortably because the others were so poor. Do you honestly think that players go on performing at the same level for ever? Far more experienced and qualified people than you or I - and probably anyone on here - have recognised that Moyes was handed a squad that had given all it had to give and now needed major surgery. That will happen in the Summer. If there's no improvement in both performances and results by December I'll join those calling for Moyes to go, but not until then.
Fergie said he left the club in a great place with a fantastic mix of youth and experience. Was he wrong?
 
We only won the league comfortably because the others were so poor. Do you honestly think that players go on performing at the same level for ever? Far more experienced and qualified people than you or I - and probably anyone on here - have recognised that Moyes was handed a squad that had given all it had to give and now needed major surgery. That will happen in the Summer. If there's no improvement in both performances and results by December I'll join those calling for Moyes to go, but not until then.

I had been saying that for years. However even with these squad weaknesses we shouldn't be at 7th place.

Do you trust a man, who took the champions to 7th place despite spending over 60m on new talent with another 200m? Thats my question.
 
Fergie said he left the club in a great place with a fantastic mix of youth and experience. Was he wrong?

Yes he was.No doubt it's what he wanted ,but i don't think he left the club as he really wanted it.
 
Yes he was.No doubt it's what he wanted ,but i don't think he left the club as he really wanted it.
I believe his retirement came around quicker than he thought. As a result I agree that I don't think he left the club exactly the way he wanted. However, I still feel he left the club in a good place, league winners with good mix of youth and experience, add to that a very promising youth team. The squad is nowhere near as bad as some are making out, It's a better squad than Arsenal, Liverpool, Spurs, Everton and possibly Chelsea, City being the only exception.
 
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