Funny I got laughed at when I said we could do with a minimum of 6 players, but with Juan Mata joining it appears Moyes agrees.
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Funny I got laughed at when I said we could do with a minimum of 6 players, but with Juan Mata joining it appears Moyes agrees.
Definitely needed. New leftback, probably new CB too with Rio going, Vidic's future in doubt and the regular injury problems we have there, ideally two central midfielders and another attacker - most likely Reus.
It really depends on if Evra/Vidic go, personally I'd hope they stay. We need some new faces and to be less reliant on them but we don't want to lose too much experience. A new fullback and a midfielder will let us rest Evra more and let Jones be a proper defender more often. In attack I don't really think we need to add there unless another top player is available, certainly our funds should be focussed on improving central midfield. I think 3 players would do the trick especially if Zaha has a good loan spell.
Spot on. You have to give RvP leniency because he's a player that's always hungry so he doesn't need anyone telling him how he should train. Especially someone who has never managed a club bigger than Everton.
This was my list:
2 first choice midfielders
1 first choice left back
1 winger (if Nani is to be as underused as he currently is)
1 first choice ball playing centre half
1 back up left back
1 back up right back
1 back up goalkeeper (If Lindegard goes)
This Isn't A Bad Squad
With Rooney looking like he will stay and the Mata signing you're looking at this.
2 first choice midfielders
1 first choice left back
1 winger (if Nani is to be as underused as he currently is)
1 first choice ball playing centre half
1 back up left back
1 back up right back
1 back up goalkeeper (If Lindegard goes)
Minus the goalkeeper, and the fact I think Moyes sees Fellaini as his long term central midfield option then we're looking at similar numbers, possibly I've been more conservative because I think given the tone of that article we're looking at first team signings.
Don't think we need anywhere near those numbers and I'd be concerned if we got more than 4 in at once. If we got in say Shaw and Vidal we'd be relatively sorted for next season. I don't see Vidic leaving and I wouldn't be shocked to see Evra stay as backup.
We'd need to continue to fill in the team but we shouldn't be rushing in and signing so many players in such a quick period. Naturally season by season we'll pick up prospects.
We'd need to continue to fill in the team but we shouldn't be rushing in and signing so many players in such a quick period. Naturally season by season we'll pick up prospects.
We're never going to have a mass exodus of 8 or 9 players that's just muppetry.
I'd say one of Rio/Evra/Vidic will go, most likely Rio.
Büttner will go if we get a left back in.
Kagawa will probably be off as Moyes seem to like options like Young much better.
Macheda/Bebe will obviously go but I don't count them as first teamers.
I'd say one of Rio/Evra/Vidic will go, most likely Rio.
Büttner will go if we get a left back in.
Kagawa will probably be off as Moyes seem to like options like Young much better.
Macheda/Bebe will obviously go but I don't count them as first teamers.
I feel we might not get fourth so my ideal targets in that case: M'villa or William Carvalho, Gareth Barry (he has proven me correct this season and could be a perfect stop gap helping us to top four.. we can replace him with top material after that) and Coentrao.
I'd be enamoured with that and feel we would make great progress.
I'd be enamoured with that and feel we would make great progress.
Never change.I am so disappointed on you prof. No Huddlestone this time?
And season by season, we'd lose ground. Let's not be like Arsenal and add season by season, whilst losing other top players.
Rio has to go. I have a feeling Vidic and Evra will leave too. Giggs will retire. Then we need to get rid of Nani. And one of Valencia and Young. Kagawa and Hernandez may leave also.
For the summer we need two world class CMs, CB, LB and winger.
A narrow midfield four of Barry, Fellaini, Giggs and Carrick would be so slow it would stop time.
I don't think that we'll sign another attacker/winger/attacking midfielder if Rooney stays. On Rooney, RVP, Mata, Januzaj and Welbeck we have quality. I suspect that one of Kagawa/Chicharito and one of Nani/Young will leave so here we have 7 players for 4 positions. I think that it mighe be enough and Powell will return to be the eighth player there.
Ideally I would like to sign two midfielders but it won't happen. Moyes likely has some plans for Fellaini and I can't see him shipping Cleverley (despite being a bad player) yet. Both of them will given a chance next season. And Carrick and Fletcher are still there. Ideally we need a very great midfielder to sign cause there is only one position left for. For that reason I didn't want to sign Cabaye this winter (though he would have been perect in the summer instead of Fellaini) and I hope that in summer we go for someone who is top quality (Vidal by far the best one).
We definitely need a left back with Evra going. My preferred choice would be Coentrao. Shaw might have higher potential but he isn't experienced and with the second choice (Buttner) being shit, I wouldn't trust to go with him as our main left back.
And finally, with Rio leaving and possibly Vidic leaving too we need a CB. That might change if Vidic stays another season. That CB ideally should be as old as Evans, not someone young. We have Smalling and Jones for that.
So I think that at most we will see 3 players coming in on the summer (CB, CM and LB, hopefully of the highest qality), Powell and possibly Zaha returning and around 5-6 players leaving the club (Vidic, Rio, Evra, Giggs, Chicharito and Nani).
Ideally I would like to sign two midfielders but it won't happen. Moyes likely has some plans for Fellaini and I can't see him shipping Cleverley (despite being a bad player) yet. Both of them will given a chance next season. And Carrick and Fletcher are still there. Ideally we need a very great midfielder to sign cause there is only one position left for. For that reason I didn't want to sign Cabaye this winter (though he would have been perect in the summer instead of Fellaini) and I hope that in summer we go for someone who is top quality (Vidal by far the best one).
We definitely need a left back with Evra going. My preferred choice would be Coentrao. Shaw might have higher potential but he isn't experienced and with the second choice (Buttner) being shit, I wouldn't trust to go with him as our main left back.
And finally, with Rio leaving and possibly Vidic leaving too we need a CB. That might change if Vidic stays another season. That CB ideally should be as old as Evans, not someone young. We have Smalling and Jones for that.
So I think that at most we will see 3 players coming in on the summer (CB, CM and LB, hopefully of the highest qality), Powell and possibly Zaha returning and around 5-6 players leaving the club (Vidic, Rio, Evra, Giggs, Chicharito and Nani).
Fellaini is box to box, Barry is an intelligent destroyer with a poisonous tackle and reliable passing.
Barry, Mvilla, Fellaini and Carrick represent excellent options.
The issue with signing only one starting midfielder is that to get the best out of him, he will need a good/right midfielder to play with. I mean, signing Vidal would be great, but I'm not convinced a pairing with Carrick or Fellaini will get the best out of him. We need a good pairing.
For a club who aims to stay as long as possible on midtable, yes.
We need a good pairing but it won't happen during this summer.
Carrick, Fletcher, Cleverley, Fellaini and the new signing are 5 players for two positions. Unless one of our midfielders leave, there simple isn't place for anymore than a new midfielder. Ideally I would like 3 new midfielders and to keep only Carrick and Fletcher but it won't happen.
Is he a snake?
I'm pleased with his starting lineup. Got plenty of options to bring on in case it's still a draw.
He's one unlucky fecker I swear, never gets a break.
Sack the man! He's jinxed!
Its unbelievable how much bad luck we've had since hes taken over. Its almost as you feel like we will do badly not because of his inability to manage but the bad luck that seems to follow him around
That said maybe 20 years of good luck brought about with SAF means we have 20 years of bad luck to cancel it out
That said maybe 20 years of good luck brought about with SAF means we have 20 years of bad luck to cancel it out
Poor Moyesie; he genuinely cannot catch a break.
I can't wait for this season to finish. If Moyes was a dog I'd put him down, the poor miserable bastard.
Sir Alex must have made a deal with the devil or summat.
Because we now blame our managers for players getting injured and fluky goals?
Poor fecker.
I think what we've seen is a failure to mould the talent in the squad around an effective system. It's a bit England-esque the way Moyes has just thrown that attacking trio at the problem and hoped for the best.
Where has Kagawa disappeared to by the way?
Where has Kagawa disappeared to by the way?
He obviously crapped on an Indian burial ground somewhere at some stage.
It's the only explanation.
It's the only explanation.
Who's blaming him? I was pointing out the abysmal luck he's had?
Moyes has had some seriously bad luck this season. Unbelievable
Are we seriously going to put everything down to bad luck or a too weak a squad or mistakes in the transfer market.
Maybe Moyes is just not the man. He's done nothing at all to suggest he is. I keep hoping he proves the doubters wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
Maybe Moyes is just not the man. He's done nothing at all to suggest he is. I keep hoping he proves the doubters wrong, but I'm not holding my breath.
Whatever could go wrong, has gone wrong this season. Seriously. Incredible bad luck
Ridiculously unlucky today to be fair. Admittedly we've hardly been playing impressive, free-flowing football, but two injured centre backs already is unlucky.
Bad luck is of course part of the reason, but there is something else that is bothering me more, and that is the way we play in attack. There is absolutely no fantasy at all from Moyes, no will to change it up, try something else when what we are doing clearly is not working. And with the attacking talent we have at the club at the moment, there is so much potential for creative, free flowing, fast paced attack. But no, play it out wide and put in a useless cross to nobody in particular. I'm sick of this thing. At least it would be easier to take these results if we looked like we were onto something good, but we're not.
I agree that bad luck shouldn't cover for the poor season he's had, as well as the indications that he's not the right man for the job, but to be fair he has been unlucky today. You're always going to struggle when two of your centre backs get injured.
Fergie probably wanted a manager in who he could hang out with and go golfing with on days off..............Moyes just hasn't fit from day one and will probably have blown a few million quid by the time he gets the boot...if ever there was a match he couldnt lose it was today after his latest 40 million quid signing should be helping turn it all around
Big second half coming up, in need of some inspiration.
DId he smash a mirror over a black cat or something? Still can't understand why he didn't bring on Fletcher instead of Welbeck. Unless he's looking at set pieces to get back in this.
Rooney in midfield?..
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