Id love to see Ronaldo return however CM should be our no 1 priority
Moyes' first signing?
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Id love to see Ronaldo return however CM should be our no 1 priority
Yes - he generally tells this stuff in good faith, but this is now all over the place so its cool.
Fabregas in Rooney Out, would be interesting to see how the Caf reacts to that.
Judging by the Rooney threads I think most would be quite pleased...
Judging by the Rooney threads I think most would be quite pleased...
We have to be try for Bale.
If Rooney goes i want Bale.
Perfect replacement.
------ RVP------
Bale Kagawa Nani
Perfect replacement.
------ RVP------
Bale Kagawa Nani
I wouldn't be that surprised to see a big signing to get Moyes reign up and running, and only a few players fit the bill.
It true we have to be try for Bale, but we have to be try for midfield also. I don't see our make progressing of further than we now without we get midfield player for central pitch for the then season after.
PCP is bad
Apparently Moyes was seen falling off of a horse today.
So why were these guys out celebrating with the united players?
Is it depressing that I've read so many almost unintelligible emails that I skim read that and it made perfect sense?
It was only after I saw laughing emotes that I re-read it and laughed.
Its funny how people used to have a dig at SAF for not signing Fellaini, and now people are having digs at Moyes for potentially signing Fellaini.
I for one hope we sign Fellaini. How old is Mirillas by the way? Know he was rated like Hazard when he was 18.
You do know the people who wanted Fergie to sign him are not necessarily the same people who don't want Moyes to sign him.
Just a thought.
They're not necessarily not. I suspect more than a few are. I could go and search a few of the usual suspect's posts in previous threads, but that would be incredibly lame and tedious, wouldn't it?
I certainly don't think many people thought that signing Fellaini was a laughable idea before, or that he was shit. Now there are dozens who think that signing Fellaini would be a horrific idea, lumping him with Phil Neville and Caf Favourite Darron Gibson.
Assuming that it is entirely different people that don't want Moyes to sign him but moaned at SAF for not doing so, then still at the very least it's an indication that people are more likely to post to moan about something than they are to post when they're in favour of something. Which I think is interesting psychologically. Unsurprising though, given that we live in the age of Generation Me.
They lack imagination though. They seem to think we'd sign him and turn into a kick and rush team. They seem to think he can't improve at 24/25 years of age. He ticks a lot of boxes. He'd be an asset while we were defending and obviously from corners. He can link play, get stuck in.
There's an attitude 'oh we don't want an Everton player'. It's nonsense. How much bullshit was written about Powell for example. A kid that did well at a much lower level and who some thought would just walk into our team and be Scholes replacement. They must live in a fairytale
There are so many things that could happen. I don't think it stops at Fellani. We might not even go for him, but if we did? He's FAR from being a disaster. Drama queens.
There's an attitude 'oh we don't want an Everton player'. It's nonsense. How much bullshit was written about Powell for example. A kid that did well at a much lower level and who some thought would just walk into our team and be Scholes replacement. They must live in a fairytale
There are so many things that could happen. I don't think it stops at Fellani. We might not even go for him, but if we did? He's FAR from being a disaster. Drama queens.
What part confuses you?
I'm with TN, mainly because he's describing me. Didn't want before, don't want now.
When he arrives here and plays like a Belgium Ballack, they'll soon change their tune.
bloody hope not, guys retired
Why do both assume that I'm talking about you? An overly defensive reaction!!
Anyway, whatever. I've probably just been reading too much amateur psychology recently but I think that people's behaviour on RedCafe is fascinating and infuriating. There is certainly a huge amount of self-righteousness and opinionated criticism. Like I said, they may well be different posters this time to before, but it says something that people are more likely to post to moan about something than they are when they're in support of it.
Why do both assume that I'm talking about you? An overly defensive reaction!!
Um... neither of us were. TN pointed out that you've assumed the same people who wanted Fellaini under Fergie don't want him under Moyes, whereas it's more likely that you're just thinking of two different groups of posters. I agreed and said that I am one of those who has never wanted Fellaini.
Great point.
I've read a few posts on here about how there are "much better options out there" that Fellaini - but nobody actually wants to put their neck on the block to suggest alternatives.
Fellaini's problem is that he's a gritty player, does the dirty work, looks a bit awkward and isnt "skilfull". All valuable assets but he's unglamorous. The average fan seemingly would therefore rather go and get a continental player they've hardly seen play because he's a "trendier" prospect.
The fact is some of the best players United have had in recent decades have been players signed from other English sides - Pallister, Irwin, Bruce, Ince, Ferdinand, Parker, Keane, Yorke, Sheringham etc. Some have joined young, others not so young - but they all proved to be top players. Some people should remember that.
I'd suggest you'd struggle to find more than a couple who wanted him under Fergie but don't want Moyes to sign him. For example, I don't want us to sign him irrespective of who our manager is. I didn't want Fergie to sign him and I hope Moyes doesn't.
Feel free to be lame and tedious and find people who have made a U-turn based on who our manager is, but I actually think you won't find many.
Maybe some people just don't particularly rate him as a footballer. We are allowed to rate players differently, football is all about opinion. What's drama queen like about rating a footballer differently to how someone else rates him? Or is it the case that anyone who doesn't share your opinion must be wrong?
The issue I would have with Fellaini isn't the concern that we'd turn into a kick and rush team but that if he's such a good midfielder why doesn't be play there? He hasn't exactly been prolific up front.
Why do both assume that I'm talking about you? An overly defensive reaction!!
Anyway, whatever. I've probably just been reading too much amateur psychology recently but I think that people's behaviour on RedCafe is fascinating and infuriating. There is certainly a huge amount of self-righteousness and opinionated criticism. Like I said, they may well be different posters this time to before, but it says something that people are more likely to post to moan about something than they are when they're in support of it.
I didn't think you were talking about me, I just pointed out that you could well be seeing something that isn't actually there. You've noticed some people saying "let's sign Fellaini" while Fergie was here, and you've now noticed some people saying "I hope Moyes doesn't sign Fellaini" and have assumed they're the same people who have changed their minds because Moyes can't be trusted. You've made this assumption without a shred of evidence to back your point up, because as you've admitted you didn't actually check to see if they were the some posters flipflopping.
Assumptions are shit.
I'm no' fecking talking to you. Fellaini's a great fecking player. You'se are all fecking idiots.
Absolute nonsense. His problem is his best position is just off the forward and he'd be the worst player we've had there since Brian McClair. If he was this gritty, hard-working defensive midfielder that you're describing I'm sure most wouldn't care that he lacks class or skill. Many of the defensive midfielders suggested here are the same. If he'd played there even on a semi-regular basis this season I'm sure there would be a few people more excited. As it is, he's played just 3 games in centre mid (according to WhoScored) which is why this player who gets through so much "dirty work" has made less interceptions than over 100 players in the league and less tackles than the likes of Schneiderlin, Sidwell, Noble, Yacob, Diame, Ramires, Arteta, Sandro, Gardner, Cabaye, Dembele, Mbia, McArthur, Tiote, Osman, Carrick...you know, the midfielders that really do get through the dirty work in their team. The dirty work Fellaini gets through is elbowing players and winning headers.
Maybe this season he had played predominantly off the forward but seasons prior he has played more than enough times in CM to suggest he can play there.
Nailed it.