Exactly, lambasting a player after a game where he is particularly bad is fair, even though you should do it with measure. But when the worst offenders are continuously exempted from blame then something is wrong the only excuse would be that Pogba is the only one that can take it while the others would crumble, in that case that's somewhat a sensible idea to not lambaste Lukaku, Matic or Young.
Mourinho at full time: "Pogba a virus. You don't play. You don't respect players/fans" [Castles]
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Exactly, lambasting a player after a game where he is particularly bad is fair, even though you should do it with measure. But when the worst offenders are continuously exempted from blame then something is wrong the only excuse would be that Pogba is the only one that can take it while the others would crumble, in that case that's somewhat a sensible idea to not lambaste Lukaku, Matic or Young.
Pogba was criticized pointlessly and weirdly days after having won the WC. Mourinho is a toxic man, he pollutes clubs
Don't understand how people say that Paul under performed. Well, without him we'd be 3-4 spots lower at the moment. Did he perform at his best, NO, obviously, but that's not under performing. Consistently performing better than your teammates (or, at least, consistently being able to run with the ball at your feet, hit a pass longer than 2 yards, hit a forward pass, stop a ball, go past a player) is not under performing.
Added to that, the whole team "under performs", for about 2 years now, 2 fecking years. Doesn't that ring a bell?
Some of you expect him to be some crazy @SS Messi/CR7 and bail us out every game just because we paid 100 mil for him.
I wonder how some of you would be as Barca fans in the 1st 6 months after they splashed 300 mil on dembele and coutinho and they had like 3 decent games out of 25.
People accuse him of being lazy and not giving his all, but nobody looks that, at Juve, he didn't do that at all, not even once. I really wonder why.
Added to that, the whole team "under performs", for about 2 years now, 2 fecking years. Doesn't that ring a bell?
Some of you expect him to be some crazy @SS Messi/CR7 and bail us out every game just because we paid 100 mil for him.
I wonder how some of you would be as Barca fans in the 1st 6 months after they splashed 300 mil on dembele and coutinho and they had like 3 decent games out of 25.
People accuse him of being lazy and not giving his all, but nobody looks that, at Juve, he didn't do that at all, not even once. I really wonder why.
Mourinho really seems to be a toxic person, and a narcissist.
Basically, United are the USA and Mourinho is Trump. A once-great thing has become a shitshow, and the parade is being lead by an incredible jackass with no self-awareness.
Basically, United are the USA and Mourinho is Trump. A once-great thing has become a shitshow, and the parade is being lead by an incredible jackass with no self-awareness.
How do you know he didn't say anything about Lukaku, Matic or Young*? (Answer: you don't and you don't actually know he said what this thread says was said either)
*Not sure I think Mourinho would be bothered to say anything about AY...how old is he? 45? He should have been gone about 5 years ago, but he's still here.
DDG is letting goals un because we are awful as a team ahead of him.
It's not about mistakes it's about Pogbas lack of effort or drive.
The equivalent would be DDG standing idly holding onto the post rather than concentrating on his game.
Having said that Jose has to go....now.
I'm talking in general, he publicly criticized Pogba in the past which he didn't with others.
Let's face it, for all his incredible potential, Pogba hasn't hit the heights we thought he would and clearly does not care about the club. I'd be happy to see him go to PSG.
I was listening to talk sport on the way to work today. Apparently Pogba has given the ball away 200+ times this season making him the worst player in the league for giving the ball away. He certainly needs to buck up his ideas but I don't want him gone yet until we see him under a new manager.
Sometimes, Pogba is terrible. Saturday he was terrible. I swear one time he just quit and gave the ball away to the player 3 feet in front of him. His teammates must be furious, as I said somewhere, I'm surprised that fights aren't breaking out on the field.
Yeah, that was one of the weirdest things he came out with and probably the biggest indication of what was to come this season. Instead of building on his star player being central in his team's World Cup victory, he instead opted to moan about and heavily criticize him for not performing like that under him.
Is this because he is the only Man United midfielder trying to play the ball forward to a mostly statue like attacker in Lukaku. While the other midfielder like Matic kick the ball backwards as quick as they receive it and do not make themselves available for any pass forward?
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And that's why I said that it's fair to lambast him because of a particular performance with measure. Pogba is a player that takes risk and he is also a little bit careless which is infuriating but that's the type of player that he is, he isn't a player that will make things tick, he is the bang. He reminds me Di Maria, in the sense that he will consistently give you the good and the bad, you need that type of players but you also need players that compensate and smooth things around them.
That's why I though that he wasn't really a good option for us, I like him and my inner muppets is happy that we have him but if I was a manager he would be the last piece in my midfield not the first.
Makes total sense once you accept Mourinho puts himself first at all costs.
Pogba played generally better at the WC than he's ever played for United? Scored in the final? What a horrible little scrote - he's making me look bad!
Haha, so depressingly true!
People need to stop getting distracted by this. That's what Mourinho wants. Yes Pogba wasn't good. However, if JOse really cared about the performance and not about point scoring, he would have kept what he said private. Instead, he's blabbed to that idiot Castles. Why make it public? Because he wants to detract from the shit job he's doing.
He's just manipulating the fanbase. Pleas for the love of God, don't let him get away with it again. He needs to be accountable. All he does is find scapegoats, except for his useless faves.
He's just manipulating the fanbase. Pleas for the love of God, don't let him get away with it again. He needs to be accountable. All he does is find scapegoats, except for his useless faves.
And you know that how?
Oh please! Everybody knows he's his go to guy in the media. Even the bloody hacks comment on it as well.
When you look at whoscored stats, he is in the top 10 but he isn't the worst and he is surround by some of the best players in the league. That stats is function of the role of a player and type of touches and passes that they are supposed to make.
In fairness, I read it as Mourinho criticising his attitude as much as his actual performance? In which case someone like Matic's performances are less relevant, assuming Mourinho thinks Matic has been shite despite having a good attitude generally.
I'm sorry but I find that argument far from convincing mate. I know Castles has been very pro-Mourinho, he's also very anti-Glazers. That doesn't mean Jose phoned him up and mailed him a recording of his dressing room rant, does it? While we're on the pathway of complete conjecture, I wouldn't be surprised that there are players who are beyond frustrated of Pogba's antics and may have leaked this..
Disagree.
It's definitely Jose.
His supporters are even identical to Trump supporters. No matter what he does wrong they'll still say he's the right man for the job. Like how Trump said he could shoot someone in the street and his supporters would still back him, Mourinho could get us relegated and his supporters would still back him.
Brain-dead morons.
"everybody knows" is a weak argument. It just as likely that this was pogbas or his agents doing to try once again to force a move. It wouldnt be the first time.
Pogba wants the whole UK to know his manager called him a virus? I don't think I believe that. Sorry.
So first you accuse someone of racism when there was clearly no reason to make that leap, and now youre calling people morons? Youll go far here, buddy.
Why not? Its working isnt it? Look at all the people in here slagging off jose for saying it(even though its not a fact that he did). What better way to get a move away than by claiming your manager is a dick to you?
Beside from the odd fantastic saves. How can you prove DDG is giving his all. I’m sure he can play a lot better to before. He’s world class so he will always pull off saves like against Young Boys. DDG has been pretty average this season by his standards. All I’m sayin there is no arguement for Pogba that is no different from the rest of the team. His playing still is very relaxed and he will alway give away the ball especially when he requires time before he can realise the ball.
All I’m asking is that fans are fair and there clearly not when it comes to Pogba, Martial and Rashford. Why only god knows. But I can kinda assume why unfortunately.
Funny how Mourinho continually picks on the players who saved his job more than once. Humiliates Pogba in public, drops Martial after a couple of bad games (which would be fair if Lukaku didn't stroll right back into the side)... Even Sanchez got dropped after playing better than Lukaku as a striker.
Also incredible how he has managed to turn the fans against Pogba to the point that they want him sold. Criticism of his performances and attitude are fair but a rare talent like that is worth persevering with.
Also incredible how he has managed to turn the fans against Pogba to the point that they want him sold. Criticism of his performances and attitude are fair but a rare talent like that is worth persevering with.
1. Mourinho said it and leaked it in which case he wants it to reflect badly on him too in order to give benefit of the doubt that he was not the source of the leak. It gets the story in the press that the manager believes the problem is Pogba but he has plausible deniability with the board for their prized asset being slated because why the hell would he leak something that reflects badly on him.
2. Mou said it and Pogba /team mate /staff leaked it. Not sure why they would chose one of Mou's yes men to leak the story to, surely Mourinho would just ask Castles who leaked it. There's any number of journalists out there who would run the story and still remain credible while protecting the players.
3. Mou never said it, Castles is making it up. Highly unlikely as Castles has a line to Mourinho so not sure why he would make up something that all sides would know is not accurate.
2. Mou said it and Pogba /team mate /staff leaked it. Not sure why they would chose one of Mou's yes men to leak the story to, surely Mourinho would just ask Castles who leaked it. There's any number of journalists out there who would run the story and still remain credible while protecting the players.
3. Mou never said it, Castles is making it up. Highly unlikely as Castles has a line to Mourinho so not sure why he would make up something that all sides would know is not accurate.
No journalist in their right mind would ever reveal a source.
Jose fans are unbelievable. It's well known that Castles is Jose's go to man and somehow Pogba leaked this to Jose's man 
He really is. Jose lives for moments like this, the man loves drama. Of course, it helps him when the fans start turning against players and shift the blame. Sad that it's working too
Jose fans are unbelievable. It's well known that Castles is Jose's go to man and somehow Pogba leaked this to Jose's man
If I was toxic that's exactly what I would do. I leak the story to Castle because people will think that it comes from Mourinho.
I don't remember Castles reporting any negative story on Jose. The only story that was even close was something Castles said few weeks back that Jose's time might be up.
It's working because people on an internet forum is complaining about Jose as well ? Nah, it's not...There's a pretty long article on Skysports about Pogbas struggles, there's not much criticism of Jose.
Why would Pogba and Raiola choose to leak something like this via Castles of all people
That's when Pogba's infectious side comes into play, he infected Castle. Or he paid him.
For the very reason I said. Using castles is perfect.
I feel for Pogba to be completely honest. He has not been able to breath without someone, somewhere having a go at him since he signed for the club. He looks fed up and i don't blame him.
And if Mou actually called him a virus, the board should really step in. This is getting out of hand, and someone has to start cleaning this shit up.
And if Mou actually called him a virus, the board should really step in. This is getting out of hand, and someone has to start cleaning this shit up.
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That's when Pogba's infectious side comes into play, he infected Castle. Or he paid him.
Nice theory though. This is like Ballbag never reporting anything against Pep.
Anyways Pogba is virus, so he infects everyone.
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