MOTD 2016/17

Absolutely nuts. I can understand not thinking it's a red, but on what planet is it more of a foul by Jones? He's grounded the entire time and makes a clean tackle through the ball.

BBC really played up to the narrative that West Ham were robbed. They didn't even show the Kouyate studs-up challenge.

Of course I don't care, but to be fair, poor old West Ham were actually robbed!
 
Jones is low, one-footed, firm and fair. It's a good, meaty tackle. Feghouli dived in like a fecking numpty and gave the referee a decision to make.

Agree. Jones is favourite to win the ball when it breaks. Feghouli then has a choice: go in or accept Jones will get there first. He goes in without control, cos he ain't fast enough to get there in a controlled way, and then gives the ref an issue. If that happened in European competition, or on the continent in La Liga etc., red card every time.
 
Saying it was Jones' fault is worse than calling it a red card. Feghouli was late and the tackle was hard but it was a yellow.
 
Well there are two other opinions I totally disagree with.
If it had been head-on, I may have seen your point, but it wasn't.
Agree. Jones' movement was towards the ball and across in front of Feghouli's. The latter's took him straight towards the ball and Jones and he was significantly too late for the former. He also committed more of a two-footed jump than Jones' slide, which won the ball well before his opponent arrived.
 
Cannot stand Keown. The clown is more biased than the Liverpool pundits.
 
Shearer giving Davies a lot of credit for a chip he didn't even mean.
 
Neville doing his best to show it's everyone's fault except Stones'
 
looks like Klopp won the tactical battle there, especially in the first half.

Did a right number on Carrick and Pogba, sucked the confidence right out of them. Mourinho did the right thing to change it ASAP but should have brought Fellaini on earlier.
 
Not watched MOTD but that's bollox. We were on easy street until Pogba (literally) handed them a goal. Even after that, did De Gea make a save? Wining the tactical battle without creating a fecking thing. Likely story.
DDG only had a couple of very easy saves to make. Without the penalty they would never have scored. Klopp is full of shit.
 
Not watched MOTD but that's bollox. We were on easy street until Pogba (literally) handed them a goal. Even after that, did De Gea make a save? Wining the tactical battle without creating a fecking thing. Likely story.

I can only remember DDG making one serious save from Firmino I believe, and another was when he gathered Wijnaldum's poor effort in the dying embers of the game when things were open.

Meanwhile, Miki, Pogba and Martial had three of the clearest opportunities.

It was a stereotypical derby game that could've gone either way really, but I'd argue we had the better of it.
 
I can only remember DDG making one serious save from Firmino I believe, and another was when he gathered Wijnaldum's poor effort in the dying embers of the game when things were open.

Meanwhile, Miki, Pogba and Martial had three of the clearest opportunities.

It was a stereotypical derby game that could've gone either way really, but I'd argue we had the better of it.

This. I had a debate with a few butt-hurt scouse fans who used statistics to show that they were the better side when in fact we had the clear cut chances and for most part of it controlled the game.
 
I can only remember DDG making one serious save from Firmino I believe, and another was when he gathered Wijnaldum's poor effort in the dying embers of the game when things were open.

Meanwhile, Miki, Pogba and Martial had three of the clearest opportunities.

It was a stereotypical derby game that could've gone either way really, but I'd argue we had the better of it.
When you say Martial had a chance are you talking about the missed backheel on Mkhi's shot/pass?
 
The Neville brothers sure like to back up their English friends don't they? Yes Clichy, Otamendi are terrible, but that doesn't stop Stones being equally terrible, and as far as I'm concerned he's not been criticised at all, do your job Neville and call a player crap when he plays crap.
 
When you say Martial had a chance are you talking about the missed backheel on Mkhi's shot/pass?

That's the one. Possibly a bit too much on the ball from Mickey but I was expecting a player of Martial's quality to connect with the ball there. He was instrumental in the build up as well.
 
I'm not saying we were the better team but you don't need chances in order to win the tactical battle. I think Klopp set us up quite good to neutralize you guys, yes you had a couple of chances but nothing spectacular and all in all you were pretty underwhelming. You can blame that on yourself but one could also argue that it's down to our tactics and the way we tried to play the game today.

So it's a bit weird to refer to chances if you're talking about the 'tactical battle', or whatever that even means.
 
Pep: "This league is no different to the others"

How stubborn can you get? :lol:
Hope he stays this way though. Last time he heeded the media backlash on Stones by dropping him, they got the first clean sheet after ages (vs Watford?).

I'm not saying we were the better team but you don't need chances in order to win the tactical battle. I think Klopp set us up quite good to neutralize you guys, yes you had a couple of chances but nothing spectacular and all in all you were pretty underwhelming. You can blame that on yourself but one could also argue that it's down to our tactics and the way we tried to play the game today.

So it's a bit weird to refer to chances if you're talking about the 'tactical battle', or whatever that even means.
Fair points. Same thought. I don't think either teams dominated other team. We had the edge with some chances until we opened ourselves in latter stage and L'pool had more space to counter and create clearer chances. So if we really need to pick a better side in from this game, it's us, United
 
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I can only remember DDG making one serious save from Firmino I believe, and another was when he gathered Wijnaldum's poor effort in the dying embers of the game when things were open.

Meanwhile, Miki, Pogba and Martial had three of the clearest opportunities.

It was a stereotypical derby game that could've gone either way really, but I'd argue we had the better of it.

This. DDG had one save to make all game and that was from Firmino.

Liverpool really struggle to break us down. Much like they did at Anfield.
 
Did a right number on Carrick and Pogba, sucked the confidence right out of them. Mourinho did the right thing to change it ASAP but should have brought Fellaini on earlier.

Kloop set out to destroy really, just payback for Anfield and a point was the objective with a win being bonus. I agree United should have gone direct, you dont build up from the back against a very good pressing team especially if that team is your biggest rival.
 
Phil Neville getting wound up over the Stones criticism was great.
 
Phil Neville getting wound up over the Stones criticism was great.

Shearer did a number on him in that exchange.
Though Phils piece on Liverpool doing a job on Carrick was good.
 
I'll put this here even though it's not 100% match of the day but closely linked as it's BBC Sport. Why the hell after every matchday does someone think it a good idea to do a facebook live thing with some pundit, presenter, random cnut, to tell us stuff instead of you know... just writing it on the page? It's absolute trash and god knows who it is supposed to be aimed at.

Also, in the latest one, it's to give us to MOTD running order... thats right, instead of a list, you have Gary Lineker on video telling us if we want to know the order, he is going to spoil all the results for us in the video anyway. He gives you the option of running away/turning it off, but then you'll never know the order.

BBC is proper fecking garbage these days.