I felt that he was anonymous today and also anonymous against Newcastle, though as someone pointed out earlier in this thread, with him in the team, we have only lost once. Is this a coincidence? Not sure.
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- Appearances
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- Goals
- 1
- Assists
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- Yellow cards
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Worrying performance.
These are the games when you want him to stand up and be counted.
Totally invisible and really quite poor. Positional discipline was shocking for someone who is reasonably famed for it.
These are the games when you want him to stand up and be counted.
Totally invisible and really quite poor. Positional discipline was shocking for someone who is reasonably famed for it.
What a disappointing signing. A nothing player so far. He can't even get the things right that he was supposed to be good at.
had a bad game. Looks better when played beside an actual footballer though.
Been really poor lately.
Not starting XI material IMO.
Not starting XI material IMO.
I expected him to find form much sooner since he knows the PL well. Defensively, he's been doing ok but going forward he should offer so much more
I'm a big fan of him, but he's had two poor games in a row. Not many players have come out of either games with plus points though. I prefer him next to Schweinsteiger or Carrick though. Fellaini was okay in the 2nd half yesterday, but I'd still rather he wasn't in the midfield two.
Big disappointment. Was expecting so much more from Morgan. As was the rest of the Caf I imagine. Hailed as a great signing back in the summer.
Still got plenty of time to turn it around though.
Still got plenty of time to turn it around though.
To think he was the one (realistic) signing that I wanted us to make during the summer. He's been poor so far which has been a huge shame.
He's only been poor in his last two games, the criticism is abit over the top. He was injured before that and was rested for the Sheffield United game for a reason. Must still not be fit enough.
I agree, he really hasn't been bad outside of the Liverpool and Newcastle games. It seems like you're only as good as your last game around here, so he's now been awful all season long...
Still only lost one game with him in the starting XI. Add two wins and two more draws to that. He's an important player for us, that's for sure.
He's done ok for us, but for me he typifies our recent transfer activity. A lot of money spent on a player who isn't at the level that we should be aspiring too. Another 25million that we could have done so much more with, IMO. I know transfer fees are ridiculous but yesterday our midfield three cost us almost 90million, and none of them are world class. That's criminal.
“When we came into the dressing room after the first half, there was some screaming and shouting but of course that is normal because in a derby you cannot lose the battle.
“Liverpool are a very high pressing team and we knew if we kept a clean sheet we would have a chance to win the game."
"In the second half we did what we had to do. We scored one goal, stayed strong and, at the end, it is three points which is amazing.”
“David is a very important player in our squad,” added Morgan.
“We are very happy to have him and happy that he didn’t go last summer. He is fully committed to this football club.
“When you have a player like this in goal, it’s good for us because we know we are not going to concede many goals and he is going to make some saves. Well done to him.”
“Liverpool are a very high pressing team and we knew if we kept a clean sheet we would have a chance to win the game."
"In the second half we did what we had to do. We scored one goal, stayed strong and, at the end, it is three points which is amazing.”
“David is a very important player in our squad,” added Morgan.
“We are very happy to have him and happy that he didn’t go last summer. He is fully committed to this football club.
“When you have a player like this in goal, it’s good for us because we know we are not going to concede many goals and he is going to make some saves. Well done to him.”
Fantastic player, was a bit anonymous yesterday but didn't play badly
I didn't see that much of him at Southampton, but he's not been the all-action midfielder I expected him to be.
I'm expecting big things from him next season once we get a better partner for him than the aging Schweinsteiger (who's been quite poor himself), Carrick (too slow for a 2 man midfield these days) and Fellaini (just a terrible player)
I'm expecting big things from him next season once we get a better partner for him than the aging Schweinsteiger (who's been quite poor himself), Carrick (too slow for a 2 man midfield these days) and Fellaini (just a terrible player)
I feel like he's done alright this season, on the whole. Like his playing style. Was he better than this at Southampton, for those of you who watched a lot of him there before he came? Seems like a lot of people expected more
People need to realise he wasn't the defensive brick wall at Southampton, that was Wanyama.
We need someone of that ilk alongside Schniederlin to get the best out of him.
I think he's been decent though.
We need someone of that ilk alongside Schniederlin to get the best out of him.
I think he's been decent though.
Total nonsense, Wanyama wasn't number 1 in the league for tackles and 2 for interceptions over 2 full seasons. He's an excellent DM playing in a very disjointed side.
Manchester United’s record in the Premier League and Champions League since the 3-1 victory over Liverpool in September:
– With Morgan Schneiderlin:
Played 14, Won 7, Drawn 7, Lost 0. Goals per game – 1.43. Conceded per game – 0.64.
– Without Morgan Schneiderlin:
Played 8, Won 1, Drawn 1, Lost 6. Goals per game – 1.00. Conceded per game – 1.88.
He's our best midfielder and massively important.
The stats don't tell the whole story. Some of the games we've lost without him also coincided with bad form and a spat of injuries that disjointed the team. The other thing is that he has been paired with either Carrick or Schweinsteiger who are far better in taking control of the game.
Thing is, Schneiderlin is quite good but, in the few games where he has had to the main CM, the one to give us that control in the middle of the park and dictate games, he's been found quite wanting. He needs to make that step up to be considered our best CM because right now he is lost without one of the more senior guys around. He definitely makes the ideal partner for either one of them and gives us that energy/legs that we've lacked along side the likes of Carrick.
Thing is, Schneiderlin is quite good but, in the few games where he has had to the main CM, the one to give us that control in the middle of the park and dictate games, he's been found quite wanting. He needs to make that step up to be considered our best CM because right now he is lost without one of the more senior guys around. He definitely makes the ideal partner for either one of them and gives us that energy/legs that we've lacked along side the likes of Carrick.
Even when he is poor.. just by having him in the side, we have more energy and balance.
Surround him with other top midfielders with legs and I don't think Morgan would be as bad. I think he has a lot of potential but under LVG will not reach it. Either way right now we need him in the side for the legs element.. he's the last player we can afford to drop. This is statistically proven.
The poor form which comes about in games without him are kind of the point, when he's missing the team looks fragile and average. Which games that he missed coincided with a spat of injuries?
Schneiderlin is a DM specialist like Matic/Makelele not Scholes/Pirlo/Carrick/Schweinsteiger who control and dictate games. Like Matic his ability on the ball is fairly limited which makes it important for him to have a midfield partner who compliments him, just like Matic has Fabregas or Busquets has Iniesta/Rakitic etc Fellaini is certainly not that.
People waiting/expecting him to start controlling bossing games like Yaya will be left wanting for a long time since it simply won't happen. He's an excellent midfielder and in the right system one of the best in the league without question. There's a very good reason Poch wanted him at Spurs and Wenger at Arsenal. Neither of them would be pairing him with Fellaini or misusing him like we have.
I wouldn't say he's been bad, in fact I'd say a large chunk of our better defensive record is down to him. Having said that, his passing ability has proven really poor at times, I've lost count of the times a simple ball has been given away.
Personally think he suffered most in Europe.
Personally think he suffered most in Europe.
Not helped by the unfathomable gaps that seem to exist between our midfielders.
I can recall a few instances of him picking the ball up in our half and all of our midfielders were in in the opposition half, surrounded by Liverpool players. Such strange tactics.
I can recall a few instances of him picking the ball up in our half and all of our midfielders were in in the opposition half, surrounded by Liverpool players. Such strange tactics.
He and Fellaini both lack the passing of Carrick and Schweinsteiger. So we struggle to control matches when they are both in there together. He needs someone classier on the ball beside him.
Harsh. Carrick hasn't been as good this season yes, but he always makes himself available for a pass. (Unless you mean dribbling wise he's as mobile as Carrick, if so that's harsh on Morgan).
Been poor the last 2 matches - but he's had Fellaini as a partner. Whoever plays next to Fellaini in the midfield two, has a poor match. Carrick has played most games with Fellaini and when he does, he looks horrible. Fellaini just doesn't make himself available for a pass and likes to bomb forwards.
Agree. Also I think Gundogan could be a good replacement for Carrick. He can control games. There are other players like Kroos, Thiago, etc but I cannot see them leaving their clubs. For now, a midfield of Schneiderlin, Schweinsteiger and Herrera is our best option. I hope to see more of Pereira the rest of the season.
Performances for another club ain't a measure of what you will produce at United. So he's still settling in and hopefully he can reach his Saints levels. I think we'll see an improvement in most our players...next season but then I think LVG will 'retire' so we can rebuild. That said though, how many would have said Rooney's been poor for much of the season? Don't matter at the minute, so he can turn it around still but we've settled on a pattern that will bring limited success this season (if any).
It doesn't help that we keep chopping and changing the team, including central midfield. At Southampton, he always played with more or less the same players and partnerships / understanding was built up. We need a consistent midfield 2 or 3 (and a consistent system!) then we'll see players play to their full potential. Problem is, neither Schweinsteiger or Carrick are physically able to play game in game out.
"Schneiderlin produced, if not his best, then his most pivotal performance at Liverpool. He was gutsy, game and composed, lambasting defenders for playing the ball long when he was prepared to act as the conduit between the defence and the attack.
The irascible Marouane Fellaini, with a temper that could set off a car alarm, offered little defensive nous yet Schneiderlin was ready. Clad in a short-sleeved shirt, he did not need to roll them up."
The irascible Marouane Fellaini, with a temper that could set off a car alarm, offered little defensive nous yet Schneiderlin was ready. Clad in a short-sleeved shirt, he did not need to roll them up."
He actually has to step it up big time
Pool was one of his worst games in a United shirt
"Schneiderlin produced, if not his best, then his most pivotal performance at Liverpool. He was gutsy, game and composed, lambasting defenders for playing the ball long when he was prepared to act as the conduit between the defence and the attack.
The irascible Marouane Fellaini, with a temper that could set off a car alarm, offered little defensive nous yet Schneiderlin was ready. Clad in a short-sleeved shirt, he did not need to roll them up."
This is bizarre. He was poor against Liverpool. Fellaini played better.
Must be a wum. He was absolutely awful and would have cost us a goal if not for De Gea after showing his lack of awareness for the umpteenth time this season.
Luckhurst is always writing these bizarre articles about individual players.
"Why Herrera is the answer to United's Woes"
"Why Pereira HAS to start the next game"
"Why Schneiderlin is United's most important player"
and they almost always are based on zero actual evidence
"Why Herrera is the answer to United's Woes"
"Why Pereira HAS to start the next game"
"Why Schneiderlin is United's most important player"
and they almost always are based on zero actual evidence
He should be played similar to how Fletcher was. He doesn't suit playing as a holding mid. He's better pressing and trying to win the ball.
He's yet another midfield signing that's looking more like a squad player than first team material at United. I really hope he can step up, and maybe he will under a new manager.
Ok, I'm probably tactically naive, but is it really so unrealistic to partner Herrera with Schneiderlin (particularly when BFS and Carrick are out.) I mean, he can hardly be worse than Fellaini, no?
He's been fantastic for me. The stats aren't a coincidence either. Yes he didn't have his best game against Liverpool but then he was next to Fellaini who spent half his time behind the striker, he's pretty much a 1 man midfield trying to screen the back 4 but also press the midfield.
He can definitely improve and be more confident on the ball, at 1 stage he and Fellaini just kept passing back and forth to eachother, like none of them wanted it. In a 3 man midfield with 2 good passers ahead of him though he would be brilliant.
He can definitely improve and be more confident on the ball, at 1 stage he and Fellaini just kept passing back and forth to eachother, like none of them wanted it. In a 3 man midfield with 2 good passers ahead of him though he would be brilliant.
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